Nasuverse Cosmology upgrade

[SweetDao]

I can already tell this is going to become 6 pages long, but I'll just say I'm not convinced by the arguments so far, so I disagree.

Pls help me, god has forsaken me

 

[KingNanaya]

Pls help me, god has forsaken me

God gives his strongest warriors his hardest tasks.

 

[Floxiaaa]

Pls help me, god has forsaken me

God has not abandoned you. He didn't want to help

 

[Floxiaaa]

God gives his strongest warriors his hardest tasks.

If you ignore my arguments and continue to say the same things, God will not hold your hand.

 

[KingNanaya]

That's an odd thing to say after ignoring other people's arguments

 

[Floxiaaa]

That's an odd thing to say after ignoring other people's arguments

I replied to all of you but you continued to reply with the same things.

 

[Digital_Franz]

Neutral on this.

 

[Floxiaaa]

Neutral on this.

Maybe the most logical

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

If it is this hard to prove low 1A and there are some anti-feats, I really don't see low 1A anymore. A new lesson is learned for me.

 

[KingNanaya]

A new lesson is learned for me.

We're always learning. Don't feel down about it.

 

[Floxiaaa]

We're always learning. Don't feel down about it.

It would be best to remain neutral on this issue and close the thread. What do you think?

 

[KingNanaya]

It would be best to remain neutral on this issue and close the thread. What do you think?

If you want the thread closed you can ask in the All-Purpose Request Thread found under Wiki Management. The decision is completely yours.

All-purpose request thread (New forum)

We have Markiplier's shows on the wiki and nobody's questioning them! And hopefully they won´t, i want to keep my Low 1-C Markiplier intact Anyway, can this thread be closed?

vsbattles.com

 

[Nightshade]

Seeing a lot of nasuverse threads lately and this might just be a personal opinion but wouldn't it be best if the supporters of the verse gather around and make a cosmology blog with accurate scans to avoid issues like this.
Although for this particular thread I agree with L1A anyways.

 

[Floxiaaa]

Son zamanlarda bir sürü tane rastgele ipliği görmek ve bu kişisel bir görüş olabilir ama şiirin destekçileri toplanıp böyle sorunlardan kaçınmak için doğru taramalarla kozoloji blogu yapmak en iyi olmaz.
Although for this particular thread I agree with L1A anyways.

I will work on this as soon as possible

 

[Nightshade]

I will work on this as soon as possible

Sweet

 

[Floxiaaa]

Sweet

But this may take 1-2 weeks because I need to prepare a profile for a character named Xiao Lu, I would appreciate it if you could wait patiently.

 

[Nightshade]

But this may take 1-2 weeks because I need to prepare a profile for a character named Xiao Lu, I would appreciate it if you could wait patiently.

No issues with that, would've liked to help you with the creation of the cosmology blog so it could be quicker

 

[Quintessence_PE]

I agree with everything Sweet said.

Pls help me, god has forsaken me

I'm home.

If you ignore my arguments and continue to say the same things, God will not hold your hand.

Beni-Enma visited the Throne of Heroes to making cooking classes. It implies space.

The Enma-Tei suddenly became popular inside the Throne. It implies time.

It shouldn't be hard to see that this is an anti-feat.

There may be situations similar to what is written here, but if these writings have an anti-feat, then what is written here does not matter.

 

[KingNanaya]

I agree with everything Sweet said.

I do too

 

[Ethan37]

Hi! I have some arguments to upgrade Nasuverse cosmology. I will start the topic with the throne of heroes. It is said that the throne of heroes is located in a place that transcends the boundaries of space and time. I will put the scan about this. Here it is ;

(Fate Requiem Volume 1 Part 1)
The throne of heroes is said to be independent of time and space. I will put the scran about this below. Here it is ;

Now I can move on to my arguments.

My first argument;
Dimensions are required to create space. Space cannot exist in a place where there is no dimension, and no matter what, unless said otherwise, there is space where there is dimension, and where there is space, there is also dimension. The throne of heroes fits this situation perfectly. The throne, which is independent of time and space, is also devoid of dimension.

My second argument ;
This argument of mine is generally about 0-dimensionality. The status of the throne of heroes should not be confused with 0-dimensionality. The throne transcends the boundaries of space and time. It is independent of time and place. A throne that transcends space and time cannot be 0-dimensional. This situation is not suitable for 0-dimensionality because it has an expression of transcendence. In this case, the throne of heroes existed above the dimensions. Because there is no other option left.

My conclusion;

Throne of Heroes Low 1-A. The real heroic souls Low 1-A because because existentially they find it there . Therefore a new key must be opened to the servants of fate.

Agree:




Disagree:

Hi! I have some arguments to upgrade Nasuverse cosmology. I will start the topic with the throne of heroes. It is said that the throne of heroes is located in a place that transcends the boundaries of space and time. I will put the scan about this. Here it is ;

(Fate Requiem Volume 1 Part 1)
The throne of heroes is said to be independent of time and space. I will put the scran about this below. Here it is ;

Now I can move on to my arguments.

My first argument;
Dimensions are required to create space. Space cannot exist in a place where there is no dimension, and no matter what, unless said otherwise, there is space where there is dimension, and where there is space, there is also dimension. The throne of heroes fits this situation perfectly. The throne, which is independent of time and space, is also devoid of dimension.

My second argument ;
This argument of mine is generally about 0-dimensionality. The status of the throne of heroes should not be confused with 0-dimensionality. The throne transcends the boundaries of space and time. It is independent of time and place. A throne that transcends space and time cannot be 0-dimensional. This situation is not suitable for 0-dimensionality because it has an expression of transcendence. In this case, the throne of heroes existed above the dimensions. Because there is no other option left.

My conclusion;

Throne of Heroes Low 1-A. The real heroic souls Low 1-A because because existentially they find it there . Therefore a new key must be opened to the servants of fate.

Agree:




Disagree:

I'm agree to disagree

your argument regarding the Throne of Heroes rests on a fundamental misinterpretation of what it means for something to be "higher-dimensional". While it’s true that the Throne of Heroes is described as existing in a higher-dimensional space, it's important to understand what it actually entails.

You can't just say that the throne is a dimension in the physical sense, nor does its higher-dimensional status imply some form of ultimate power or existential superiority. It functions more like a metaphysical archive—a higher-dimensional library where the records or data of Heroic Spirits are stored. This doesn’t equate to a realm that surpasses all dimensions in power or significance. Instead, it’s a space that transcends ordinary time and space for the purpose of preservation and storage, not one that inherently elevates the beings contained within it to a higher tier of existence. Your claim that the Throne of Heroes should be considered Low 1-A because it "transcends the boundaries of space and time" overlooks the purpose and nature of this transcendence. The Throne operates outside conventional space-time as a means to house the essence of Heroic Spirits across different realities. This transcendence is a functional attribute, not an indication of dimensional hierarchy or superior existential power. If anything, this setup is more about preserving data than about conferring any special status on the entities stored within it.

equating this metaphysical transcendence with a position above all dimensions is not supported by the lore. The notion that the Throne of Heroes exists in a "higher-dimensional space" should be understood metaphorically rather than literally, especially when comparing it to real-world concepts of dimensionality. The higher-dimensional nature of the Throne speaks to its ability to exist outside typical physical laws, not to its power. If you assert that this higher-dimensional status inherently makes the Throne of Heroes or the Heroic Spirits Low 1-A, I would ask where is the explicit evidence within the Nasuverse that supports this leap in logic? Can you provide a concrete example where the dimensional nature of the Throne directly translates into an existential hierarchy or a tangible power advantage for the entities within it?

your argument seems to conflate different concepts of dimensionality, assuming that because the Throne transcends time and space, it must therefore exist on a higher dimensional plane in the same way that traditional dimensions are understood. But this is not how the Nasuverse describes or utilizes these concepts. Transcendence,as far as we know in this context, is about existing outside of typical limitations, not about existing above them in a hierarchy of power.

 

[Ethan37]

My second argument ;
This argument of mine is generally about 0-dimensionality. The status of the throne of heroes should not be confused with 0-dimensionality. The throne transcends the boundaries of space and time. It is independent of time and place. A throne that transcends space and time cannot be 0-dimensional. This situation is not suitable for 0-dimensionality because it has an expression of transcendence. In this case, the throne of heroes existed above the dimensions. Because there is no other option left.

also your for your argument regarding 0-dimensionality is based on a misinterpretation of how dimensions are understood in both physics and Nasuverse. In higher-dimensional theory, such as string theory, additional dimensions are not simply greater or smaller in terms of power or strength,they represent different axes of movement or existence. The Throne of Heroes being "independent of time and space" does not imply that it is a 0-dimensional space, nor does it imply that it transcends all dimensionality. Rather, it exists outside the conventional dimensionality in a manner that allows it to serve as a repository for Heroic Spirits, without placing it in a higher or superior existential plane.

 

[Floxiaaa]

I'm agree to disagree

your argument regarding the Throne of Heroes rests on a fundamental misinterpretation of what it means for something to be "higher-dimensional". While it’s true that the Throne of Heroes is described as existing in a higher-dimensional space, it's important to understand what it actually entails.

You can't just say that the throne is a dimension in the physical sense, nor does its higher-dimensional status imply some form of ultimate power or existential superiority. It functions more like a metaphysical archive—a higher-dimensional library where the records or data of Heroic Spirits are stored. This doesn’t equate to a realm that surpasses all dimensions in power or significance. Instead, it’s a space that transcends ordinary time and space for the purpose of preservation and storage, not one that inherently elevates the beings contained within it to a higher tier of existence. Your claim that the Throne of Heroes should be considered Low 1-A because it "transcends the boundaries of space and time" overlooks the purpose and nature of this transcendence. The Throne operates outside conventional space-time as a means to house the essence of Heroic Spirits across different realities. This transcendence is a functional attribute, not an indication of dimensional hierarchy or superior existential power. If anything, this setup is more about preserving data than about conferring any special status on the entities stored within it.

equating this metaphysical transcendence with a position above all dimensions is not supported by the lore. The notion that the Throne of Heroes exists in a "higher-dimensional space" should be understood metaphorically rather than literally, especially when comparing it to real-world concepts of dimensionality. The higher-dimensional nature of the Throne speaks to its ability to exist outside typical physical laws, not to its power. If you assert that this higher-dimensional status inherently makes the Throne of Heroes or the Heroic Spirits Low 1-A, I would ask where is the explicit evidence within the Nasuverse that supports this leap in logic? Can you provide a concrete example where the dimensional nature of the Throne directly translates into an existential hierarchy or a tangible power advantage for the entities within it?

your argument seems to conflate different concepts of dimensionality, assuming that because the Throne transcends time and space, it must therefore exist on a higher dimensional plane in the same way that traditional dimensions are understood. But this is not how the Nasuverse describes or utilizes these concepts. Transcendence,as far as we know in this context, is about existing outside of typical limitations, not about existing above them in a hierarchy of power.

I'm agree to disagree

your argument regarding the Throne of Heroes rests on a fundamental misinterpretation of what it means for something to be "higher-dimensional". While it’s true that the Throne of Heroes is described as existing in a higher-dimensional space, it's important to understand what it actually entails.

You can't just say that the throne is a dimension in the physical sense, nor does its higher-dimensional status imply some form of ultimate power or existential superiority. It functions more like a metaphysical archive—a higher-dimensional library where the records or data of Heroic Spirits are stored. This doesn’t equate to a realm that surpasses all dimensions in power or significance. Instead, it’s a space that transcends ordinary time and space for the purpose of preservation and storage, not one that inherently elevates the beings contained within it to a higher tier of existence. Your claim that the Throne of Heroes should be considered Low 1-A because it "transcends the boundaries of space and time" overlooks the purpose and nature of this transcendence. The Throne operates outside conventional space-time as a means to house the essence of Heroic Spirits across different realities. This transcendence is a functional attribute, not an indication of dimensional hierarchy or superior existential power. If anything, this setup is more about preserving data than about conferring any special status on the entities stored within it.

equating this metaphysical transcendence with a position above all dimensions is not supported by the lore. The notion that the Throne of Heroes exists in a "higher-dimensional space" should be understood metaphorically rather than literally, especially when comparing it to real-world concepts of dimensionality. The higher-dimensional nature of the Throne speaks to its ability to exist outside typical physical laws, not to its power. If you assert that this higher-dimensional status inherently makes the Throne of Heroes or the Heroic Spirits Low 1-A, I would ask where is the explicit evidence within the Nasuverse that supports this leap in logic? Can you provide a concrete example where the dimensional nature of the Throne directly translates into an existential hierarchy or a tangible power advantage for the entities within it?

your argument seems to conflate different concepts of dimensionality, assuming that because the Throne transcends time and space, it must therefore exist on a higher dimensional plane in the same way that traditional dimensions are understood. But this is not how the Nasuverse describes or utilizes these concepts. Transcendence,as far as we know in this context, is about existing outside of typical limitations, not about existing above them in a hierarchy of power.

Your expressions are worth gold to me. Thank you very much.

 

[Robo432343]

 

[SweetDao]

No

 

[Floxiaaa]

No

What's the deal here?

 

[Wankbreaker]

No.

 

[Huesito88]

No.

 

[Wankbreaker]

are threads like these the reason why staff don’t want to look at nasuverse CRTS/my void CRT

 

[KingNanaya]

are threads like these the reason why staff don’t want to look at nasuverse CRTS/my void CRT

kinda. most staff hate tier 1/0 in general, but then add the fact that the verse is pretty old, niche, and anime, and you can start to see why engagement with the verse from staff.

 

[Xipheria]

Disagree

 

[IlekVad14]

Stop just stop.