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Naruto Speed Revisions Part 2

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Does anybody want to ask Azathoth and Ryukama to give input here?
 
Knightofannihilation666 said:
Again I agree with Matt and Cal. I have a feeling people are just agreeing with the proposed upgrades due to their fanboy part since they can Relativistic Naruto so badly instead of reading the arguments against it.
wow can u stop insulting smh

without calling us fanboy prove us that we are wrong and u are right

even thu u didnt gave any reason why they wont upgrade but u never stop insulting
 
Welp......

"I now want to address some additional factors in this possible speed upgrade thread for Naruto.

1. The meteorite Kep and the others shown was on fire after Toneri disappeared.

2. The meteorite hit behind the Hokage Rock

Your argument doesn't factor in air resistance, gravity, and the trajectory of the meteorite's path in Naruto the Last."
 
I have messaged Ryukama. I didn't message Azzy as I believe he said he'd be busy with irl stuff.
 
Thank you, although I think that Azathoth can help out a bit with the more important threads.
 
The argument that it's inconsistent with how we treat other franchises has also been severely debunked in the original thread. Nobody is arguing that anymore. Cal is now trying to say it isn't Relativistic.

In any case, I stand by what I said completely, and hope new arguments are actually brought up against my case.
 
@Frantzy

Everyone is going to scale above what Naruto's Light Fang feat would yield, so it's irrelevant in any case.
 
BTW,i giving the input here:

"Meteoroids enter the earth's atmosphere at very high speeds, ranging from 11 km/sec to 72 km/sec (25,000 mph to 160,000 mph). However, similar to firing a bullet into water, the meteoroid will rapidly decelerate as it penetrates into increasingly denser portions of the atmosphere. This is especially true in the lower layers, since 90 % of the earth's atmospheric mass lies below 12 km (7 miles / 39,000 ft) of height.

At the same time, the meteoroid will also rapidly lose mass due to ablation. In this process, the outer layer of the meteoroid is continuously vaporized and stripped away due to high speed collision with air molecules. Particles from dust size to a few kilograms mass are usually completely consumed in the atmosphere.

Due to atmospheric drag, most meteorites, ranging from a few kilograms up to about 8 tons (7,000 kg), will lose all of their cosmic velocity while still several miles up. At that point, called the retardation point, the meteorite begins to accelerate again, under the influence of the Earth's gravity, at the familiar 9.8 meters per second squared. The meteorite then quickly reaches its terminal velocity of 200 to 400 miles per hour (90 to 180 meters per second). The terminal velocity occurs at the point where the acceleration due to gravity is exactly offset by the deceleration due to atmospheric drag."
 
Ablation is not relevant to Toneri's calculation, actually, since it isn't as slow as a real meteor.
 
Veloxt1r0kore said:
BTW,i giving the input here:
"Meteoroids enter the earth's atmosphere at very high speeds, ranging from 11 km/sec to 72 km/sec (25,000 mph to 160,000 mph). However, similar to firing a bullet into water, the meteoroid will rapidly decelerate as it penetrates into increasingly denser portions of the atmosphere. This is especially true in the lower layers, since 90 % of the earth's atmospheric mass lies below 12 km (7 miles / 39,000 ft) of height.

At the same time, the meteoroid will also rapidly lose mass due to ablation. In this process, the outer layer of the meteoroid is continuously vaporized and stripped away due to high speed collision with air molecules. Particles from dust size to a few kilograms mass are usually completely consumed in the atmosphere.

Due to atmospheric drag, most meteorites, ranging from a few kilograms up to about 8 tons (7,000 kg), will lose all of their cosmic velocity while still several miles up. At that point, called the retardation point, the meteorite begins to accelerate again, under the influence of the Earth's gravity, at the familiar 9.8 meters per second squared. The meteorite then quickly reaches its terminal velocity of 200 to 400 miles per hour (90 to 180 meters per second). The terminal velocity occurs at the point where the acceleration due to gravity is exactly offset by the deceleration due to atmospheric drag."
Ender Shadow?
 
The Toneri calc is taking into account the time it takes for the meteor to travel to the Earth until friction burns up in the upper atmosphere. In which case, this is a process that is 100% irrelevant to the meteor's speed in a combat setting due to the fact Naruto dodged them as soon as they were released. A meteor's cosmic velocity only drops severely once it reaches the lower-middle atmosphere.

So EnderShadow's stuff is, as usual, irrelevant to the debate.
 
I don't know if this was refuted in the other thread yet (i'll go check it out if it was) but i still don't agree with the timeframe, it definitely looks to me like the meteor was moving before Toneri disappeared.
 
Can you provide any proof?

Because we see the exact same angle of the sky seconds before, and there's no sign of the meteor. As soon as Toneri fades, we see it.

Since this is the only scene where we can devise a timeframe for the feat, it is the only side that doesn't require speculation. I explain and debunk it more in depth in the other thread.
 
Well, I would still prefer if Azathoth could help out here, but otherwise I think that Kepekley23 seems to have made a better argument.
 
I messaged Azzy awhile ago. So we are likely just waiting for him to reply.
 
Kepekley23 said:
Can you provide any proof?
Because we see the exact same angle of the sky seconds before, and there's no sign of the meteor. As soon as Toneri fades, we see it.

Since this is the only scene where we can devise a timeframe for the feat, it is the only side that doesn't require speculation. I explain and debunk it more in depth in the other thread.
I'll check out the other thread in depth, but we see the meteor as Toneri fades because Toneri was in the way of our view of it; the fact that the meteor is there the instant Toneri begins fading suggests that it began moving before that, unless the meteor travelled thousands of kilometers in milliseconds.
 
I'm not picking a side in this either since this is way too controversial of an upgrade, but what Aza said; Kep is a good calc group member and has provided pretty good evidence.
 
Wait in Madara's Rikudou mode, is said that he casually flew at Mach 42,000 so would having 2 Rinnegan make him At Least Rel or Rel+

P.S: this is just a question!
 
BlackeJan said:
Wait in Madara's Rikudou mode, is said that he casually flew at Mach 42,000 so would having 2 Rinnegan make him At Least Rel or Rel+
P.S: this is just a question!
Not only is what Kep said true but nothing indicates that rinnegans multiply stats like that.
 
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