Naruto: Revision Reborn

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

I think it would be best if we get the 8-A scaling out of the way first.

 

[RinkakuKagune]

And it wasn't revied by one perso, Radical, TataHaki and Ant seemed to be okay with it. In fact Radicals very reason was; "If its just the old calc using the new size then theres not much of an issue IMO."

Only Radical is a calc team member, and he's not a naruto expert. It was removed because it completely messes up scalimg and is unnecessary. We already went over this, it's not going to be changed.

How does it mess up scaling if it only scales to one person? And it really doesn't matter if Radical isn't a Naruto expert since the precise reason he green-lighted it was that it was just the old calc using the new size from a former calc member and actual NARUTO EXPERT.

 

[Reppuzan]

@Rinkaku

One person is one person. It's still a relatively low amount of input even if that person is well-versed in Naruto.

I'm considered one of the most well-versed people in Nasuverse lore at the moment, but my opinion alone doesn't approve major revisions like this one.

 

[RinkakuKagune]

Well now that more poeple know about it and since we know it only scales to one person can't more poeple evaluate it?

 

[Reppuzan]

If they decide to, sure.

There's still the problem of whether or not it fits into scaling.

 

[Damage3245]

A note about Kakashi's profile: It says he has teleportation in his Double MS section, but he gained teleportation through Kamui before he has two sharingans. He used it during the War arc when fighting Obito.

 

[Kepekley23]

Hi. What is the consensus here so far?

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

I dunno but it seems that some people are more comfortable with the 7-B calc.

We still haven't reached a conclusion on the 8-A S4 Scaling.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Kakashi's CB+ reasoning is "Matched Zabuza", and yet, Zabuza's profile says "Capable of 1v1-ing part1 Kakashi".

 

[Kepekley23]

Both are jonin-level, and we currently accept Part 1 jonin at CB+, although they are gonna get bumped to MCB.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

I think Kepekley23 had a much better AP description for him in the past thread which wasn't implemented yet.

 

[Kepekley23]

"Far stronger than Part 1 Sasuke even after his power-ups, and thus should be on this level. Scales to other powerful jonin like Asuma, Gai and Yamato"

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

I've added it.

 

[Ramesses_the_Sun_King]

Sasori's reasoning for Large Building level puppets is "fought against both Sakura and Chiyo" and has no justification for 8-B possibly higher. He should be At least 8-B possibly higher with puppets for stomping Kankuro who is At least 8-B possibly higher. 8-A in his main body because Kankuro uses his main body in the war arc and he said he only surpassed him after he took his main puppet body.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

I agree with Ramesses.

 

[Tenshin-Ta]

Sounds solid enough.

I think we should just warp up part 1 characters for the meantime

 

[Kepekley23]

All jonin characters and the people who scale to the S4 will be 8-A. I can help out by applying it myself.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

I see. I can help out as well.

 

[Damage3245]

A note about Kakashi's profile: It says he has teleportation in his Double MS section, but he gained teleportation through Kamui before he has two sharingans. He used it during the War arc when fighting Obito.

Thoughts on this?

 

[Tenshin-Ta]

cool that's covered.

Which contreversial character needs to be disscussed

 

[Dark649]

I checked:

- Kankuro profile needs to be fixed.

- Lesser for Shukaku and Saike, but especially Fu [Needs better renders] and Kidomaru profiles needs to be completely revised.

 

[Tenshin-Ta]

• sigh* Kakashi is able to teleport with his kamui. The first time he does it when Obito sucks him to his dimension when Kurama threw him in. This is where Kakashi made Obito bleed.

Kakashi later does it again when he clashed with Obito. He appears when Obito loses the bijuu's

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Fu and Kidomaru need to be placed in the Naruro verse page. I didn't even knew they existed.

 

[Dark649]

Madara stole his sharingan just because he wanted to teleport to Obito.

 

[Tenshin-Ta]

Well yeah pretty much. I was only describing when Kakashi used it, lol

 

[Tenshin-Ta]

Why is Matabi small town physically? She should be Large Mountain due being able to bleed SM Madara and contributed to the destruction of the Susanoo

 

[Dark649]

I do not know, but all the tailed beasts should also be revised.

 

[Kepekley23]

Tailed Beasts are only Large Mountain level with Bijuudama

 

[Tenshin-Ta]

But they have been shown to hurt Madara. Shukaku managed to hurt Madara with his wind style

Edit: I think we should adress the power of the bijuu's tbh

 

[Kepekley23]

You said it. Wind Release. Not physically.

 

[Tenshin-Ta]

Yes, i did say that, but your ignoring the part were Madara was thrown and hit around like a ping-pong ball by all six bijuu's

 

[Kepekley23]

They haven't shown physical Large Mountain level feats, and their physical attacks somehow being above their Bijuudama sounds ludicrous.

 

[Ramesses_the_Sun_King]

They should be likely Mountain level with physical attacks because Gobi harmed Hachibi with a charge and Hachibi can tank his own bijudama.

 

[Tenshin-Ta]

Madara was Sage Mode when he received the hits.

Also due note that Bijuu's are the pinnacal of chakra control. Given that Naruto was able to break Haku's ice mirrors and overpower Sasuke's Fireball with his roar, It's not off for the Bijuu's being able physically output that into their strenght.

Edit: What Ramesses said

 

[Kepekley23]

I am against the suggestion that the Bijuus can somehow output more strength with their uncharged physical attacks than with the Bijuudama, their strongest attack by far.

 

[Damage3245]

Shouldn't the Bijuu be comparable to A, the Third Raikage?

 

[Tenshin-Ta]

@Kepkley

You have to note that when the bijuu's Bijuudama was nowhere neir it's height power, especially when they were being controlled by Obito. Kakashi even said that Obito controlling the full power of the bijuu's would be taxing for him. Also remember that Obito almost lost control of the Five Tails.

Kurama overpowered his siblings Bijuudama but the plan was used that as a distraction in order for Naruto grab the rods controlling them

 

[Piercer_of_Heaven]

Just going to quickly point out that Jubi and Obito as Jubi Jinchuriki are lacking calcs to back up their Country level rating.

 

[Ramesses_the_Sun_King]

I think they should be rated as likely 7-A physically and 7-A with Bijuudama.

 

[Tenshin-Ta]

Just going to quickly point out that Jubi and Obito as Jubi Jinchuriki are lacking calcs to back up their Country level rating.

The bijuudama done by the Juubi is scaled Country

And Dodo's calc on the Tenpechii is Continent i believe. So yeah they do have the feats to back it up