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Within Nanatsu no Taizai we are told that the Demon King and Supreme Deity created their own realms, and Chaos created the regular world among both the aforementioned gods. In that same scan we see obvious rays of sunlight shining through the clouds in Supreme Deity’s realm, there are two stars within Demon King’s realm, and there is a starry sky within the real world Chaos created (apparently Chaos was born among the stars so they aren’t his oops).

While it isn’t clear whether this scales to their normal statistics or not, they still created these realms. Lucky for us when we have creation feats that don’t scale to stats we call it Environmental Destruction.

So, I propose the following:
  • Demon King: High 4-C via Environmental Destruction (Created a realm with presumably a star as it has moons reflecting light from a bright source)
  • Supreme Deity: High 4-C via Environmental Destruction (Created a realm with presumably a star as a star must exist within her realm for the Sunshine grace to function)
  • Chaos: High 4-C via Environmental Destruction (Created the real world, as well as creating the Demon King and Supreme Deity)
 
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Don't it be a problem for us if we don't know how long it takes them to create the realms? I mean, they must be millions of years old, so...
 
Yar_R_agi_7k said:
Don't it be a problem for us if we don't know how long it takes them to create the realms? I mean, they must be millions of years old, so...
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By precedence we just give them the value, we don’t know how long it was going to take Kaguya to create her realm with a star but her ETSO is still High 4-C, same with other verses.
 
Yar_R_agi_7k said:
Don't it be a problem for us if we don't know how long it takes them to create the realms? I mean, they must be millions of years old, so...
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This can be done to other verse as to me it doesn't matter as it's still created by them.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
For a moon to shine it must be reflecting light (presumably from a sun).
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So one star, not two
Arc7Kuroi said:
By precedence we assume the stars in the sky are his
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No dude. Chaos was born among the stars of the cosmos, after traveling millions of years he decided to create the world. How can he create that something if he was born from this same something
 
i dont think chaos made those stars but ya i already showed all of this... anywho i think we need to wait for the movie tbh. But after that all hell gonna break lol
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
So one star, not two

No dude. Chaos was born among the stars of the cosmos, after traveling millions of years he decided to create the world. How can he create that something if he was born from this same something
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Didn’t know that about Chaos, so then drop him to High 4-C via ED, since he can create to gods who are High 4-C via ED, I’ll update the OP.
 
Damage3245 said:
I find it funny that you're proposing "Environmental Destruction" via a Creation feat.
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But that is correct
  • Note that this only applies to the character's capacity to harm other characters if their Creation is connected to their other abilities; for example, it can be reasoned that a mage who can conjure a city with little mana can destroy one with the same amount of mana, however a character who can create objects without other ways of harming their opponents wouldn't be able to harness that power to hurt another character, and would fall under a light form of Environmental Destruction.
From here
 
Damage3245 said:
I find it funny that you're proposing "Environmental Destruction" via a Creation feat.
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Read our own Creation page bro lol, it says that Creation feats that don’t scale to stats are Enviro Destruction, I don’t make the rules. I’m fine with saying “via Creation” instead.
 
I was kinda scratching my head too lmao. I guess it’s like if you create a house on top of a house you’re destroying the other house via creating a house on a house type environmental destruction
 
Question: What information do we actually have on the Demon World? Do we even know if it is a real star, or if there is an entire planet there?
 
shouldn't starry skies be 4B? I mean, there are countless stars out there on the panel you throw
 
Damage3245 said:
Question: What information do we actually have on the Demon World? Do we even know if it is a real star, or if there is an entire planet there?
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It's a parallel dimension
it has two moons
It is said that he created
It's called "World"

By the logic, it's a world. What is needed is to prove that everything is an illusion and not the other way around
 
we see the existence of the moon, the planet, and the star in the dimension, so it is certain that they are. the person who opposes it must prove that it is not
 
Outlier hehehe!

Yeah, I mean, seems reasonable to me. I'm not really knowledgeable on the verse beyond the first two seasons admittedly, but this seems simple enough. And given certain precedents that we've witnessed on the site wink wink elbow elbow, I'd say giving these guys a rating for their Creation/ED would be fair.
I'll leave ironing out the specifics and details of whether the feat is 5-B, 4-C, High 4-C, or something else entirely to the experts though.
 
well if yall check the original four knights discus, you can see him literally shutting me down after i showed a picture . and i quote " you can literally GTFO if you think we gonna make them 4c".... and now here it but sure... im sorry i wont jab anymore
 
  • Chaos: High 4-C via Environmental Destruction (Created the real world, as well as creating the Demon King and Supreme Deity)
Wouldn’t “real world” be at best 5-B here based off of context or Low 5-B?

Do people even scale ED to ED? I’m not sure how that would work for creating those 2 beings but they don’t scale to the creation feat itself?
 
also their tier isnt the issue... its the scaling :/ i know 4 of the sins might scale to SD since they fight them in the movie ... but what we doing about DK zeldris etc?
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
It's a parallel dimension
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Here. A portal is needed to connect the worlds, so its a dimension and not a illusion
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I still prefer just "At least 5-A, possibly High 4-C". There is no good evidence for the existence of a star. The best logic is the sunshine, which would indicate that there is a sun, but as a false night can nullify sunshine a "false day" can activate sunshine theoretically
 
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