Mystical Characters Speed Upgrade

[LordTracer]

Dormammu, Agamotto and Mephisto (in his realm) should all have immeasurable speed instead of MFTL+. Agamotto and Mephisto are both directly scaled from Well Fed Galactus, who is immeasurable. Dormammu has kept up with Eternity, who is omnipresent, and he should scale above Agamotto.

 

[LordTracer]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

I do not think that Galactus has ever demonstrated immeasurable speed, so I think that he should probably be downgraded in this area instead, but you should ask the following members to comment here:

Sandman31, Zensum, C2 of Omego, Crimson Azoth, Eficiente, Qawsedf234, PrinceOfTheMorning.

 

[Eficiente]

I don't think those characters should have immeasurable speed, is that reasonable without downgrading Galactus?

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

TBF there was Uatu fighting on every plane of existence [which is noted on his profile], Franklin and Agatha mental fight spanning the full gamut of reality, and several other feats of those on cosmic levels fighting on every plane simultaneously. So I honestly believe they could be Immeasurable.

 

[Qawsedf234]

I don't know enough those characters to give an accurate judgement.

 

[Sandman31]

TBF there was Uatu fighting on every plane of existence [which is noted on his profile], Franklin and Agatha mental fight spanning the full gamut of reality, and several other feats of those on cosmic levels fighting on every plane simultaneously. So I honestly believe they could be Immeasurable.

Fighting on every plane of existence (without further context) isnt immeasurable.

 

[LordTracer]

@Eficiente But they're directly scaled from Galactus in their speed categories... them not being immeasurable while Galactus is wouldn't make sense.

 

[Sandman31]

Galactus speed description is really outdated. He is Immeasurable for existing in Overspace. Which I think comes from that time where he went there, turned into his energy form and meet with the abstracts. Yeah, he can go to Overspace, doesnt mean hes speed is Immeasurable. Hank Pym can enter Overspace but we dont rate him as having immeasurable speed.

 

[Antvasima]

I agree. Galactus should have his immeasurable speed removed.

 

[LordTracer]

Oh, well okay then. But what about Dormammu, he's kept up with an omnipresent being (and did so in his weakest incarnation), would that be immeasurable speed?

 

[Qawsedf234]

No. You need to time travel with just speed or exist in multiple temporal dimensions to have immeasurable.

 

[LordTracer]

Then... what exactly would keeping pace with an omnipresent be?

 

[Qawsedf234]

Omnipresence but I feel like Dormammu isn't nearly consistent enough for that rating.

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

The thing is, one can keep up with an omnipresent being without being omnipresent as well. The nature of omnipresence is that they are everywhere at once, which would lend to them not being physical.

Dormammu may have kept up with a physical manifestation of Eternity, which is what we normally see, however that manifestation can clearly be seen to not be omnipresent.

 

[PrinceOfTheMorning]

I agree with the others that already replied

 

[Eficiente]

Omnipresence isn't even a speed as much as an state of being. Eternity was omnipresent, keeping that power is as simple as having the dude's body to be a portal to the universe, keeping up with him outside of the universe doesn't at all mean he's not omnipresent.

 

[Antvasima]

So is somebody willing to update the Galactus (Marvel Comics) profile, and are there any other cosmic Marvel characters with inaccurate listings of immeasurable speed as well?

Speaking of which, I think that some DC Comics characters, such as the New Gods, also need to be updated in this regard.

 

[Antvasima]

I have removed Immeasurable speed from the Galactus (Marvel Comics) page.

 

[Antvasima]

@POTM & Sandman31

Would you or some other experienced member be willing to find and update all of the DC Comics characters with inaccurate immeasurable speed ratings?

 

[Eficiente]

I made some calc for Galactus' speed, but before sending it to be evaluated I would like to know what Priority it would have; Idk what top speed Marvel's MFTL characters scale to.

 

[Antvasima]

I do not know. Sorry.