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My Hero Academia: Speed and Lifting Strength Downgrade

TheRustyOne

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Due to what was accepted in this calc thread, the current calculation that the Relativistic+ cast scales to has been downgraded from 79.57% SoL to 62.27% SoL.

Star and Stripe's Lifting Strength was also lowered from 863,691,811,168,928 Metric Tons to 368,664,600,041,798 Metric Tons.

Small downgrade, in fact, most profiles will remain unchanged but there is some discussion that needs to be had.

Currently we upscale the Prime All Might level cast to both Speed of Light and Class E.

Class E without a doubt needs to be dropped. They'll still scale to Star, but the gap to Class E is now around 2.7x, which is way too big for any upscaling here.

The speed upscale is a little bit iffy as well. The current gap is now 1.6x, which is a larger than our previous gap of 1.25x.

As explained, they upscaled to Speed of Light because Faux 100% Izuku is able to move a vastly greater distance than Lady Nagant's bullets, which is faster than 45% Izuku.

Note: That Izuku blitzed a bullet Lady Nagant had enhanced to be faster than her normal shots.

79.57% SoL = 45% Izuku < Lady Nagant's Bullet < Lady Nagant's Enhanced Bullet < Faux 100% Izuku = Prime All Might.

That was the scaling, but now that value has become 62.27% SoL. We need to discuss if the current upscaling is still acceptable. This also effects Izuku's Gearshift and Tomura's Speed Quirks, as both of them are placed at FTL for scaling far above Prime All Might's speed.

We have three options here for speed.

Option 1: Put all of the Prime All Might level characters and above down to Relativistic+, basically we'll remove all upscaling.

Agree: Damage3245, Raiden38, Dark_Soul20189, Nierre, Therefir, (5)

Disagree:

Neutral:

Option 2: Keep the upscaling as is. Prime All Might characters will continue to upscale to Speed of Light and those above will remain FTL.

Agree: SuperStar, Dalesean027, Kingofwolves999, SODAKU, RidleyX, (5)

Disagree:

Neutral:

Option 3: Only those far faster than Prime All Might will upscale, meaning Izuku's Gearshift and Tomura's Quirks will be Speed of Light. The FTL rating will be removed.

Agree: GunshyFever, Dalesean027, (2)

Disagree:

Neutral:

Note: I'm fine with either Option 1 or Option 2, not a fan of Option 3 at all, but I imagine someone would bring it up.

But I believe Option 1 is the simplest and cleanest in this situation.

Regardless of which option is chosen, I'll need to change the scaling values that are written on any of the profiles that have them.
 
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Im fine with either 2 or 3
45% Izuku < Lady Nagant's Bullet < Lady Nagant's Enhanced Bullet < Faux 100% Izuku = Prime All Might
As in this current scaling chain you have at the very end of deku with gearshift being a being an entire blitz tier above Prime AM when he completely statued tomura
 
RIP Class E, you were beloved.

Option 2 I find the most logical simply cause the upscaling is still pretty absurd. Nagant's enhanced bullet was nearly statued by Faux 100%, travelling hundreds of meters before it could cover a tenth of that distance.

45% Deku might be marginally slower but the speed gap from him to Nagants normal bullets to her enhanced bullets to faux 100% is still wild enough that I don't see why upscaling needs to go away.
 
I'm a bit curious. Has this wiki configured a multiplier for leveling up, and if so, by how much? Or are we using a different method?

If not, I have no issues with option 2, as Deku is significantly faster than Nagant's bullet. He can cover dozens or even hundreds of meters while the bullet moves only a tiny distance.
 
I'm a bit curious. Has this wiki configured a multiplier for leveling up, and if so, by how much? Or are we using a different method?
There's no official number, but the unspoken rule is that so long as the difference is around 1.1-1.3x, we can do upscaling. If it's more than that, we don't upscale more often than not. But it's a case by case thing for sure.
 
Anyway, regarding this thread, I'll give the application of the new values my approval. That part is simple enough.

However, I'll opt out of evaluating the upscaling stuff because I'm not really all that familiar with the scaling chains being discussed. I don't feel very well-equipped to pass judgement on any of that atm.
My instinct is to lean towards Option 1, though, mainly because a difference of 1.6x is usually too large to do upscaling, regardless of how dramatic the scaling chain is. At least in my personal experience.
 
Due to what was accepted in this calc thread, the current calculation that the Relativistic+ cast scales to has been downgraded from 79.57% SoL to 62.27% SoL.

Star and Stripe's Lifting Strength was also lowered from 863,691,811,168,928 Metric Tons to 368,664,600,041,798 Metric Tons.

Small downgrade, in fact, most profiles will remain unchanged but there is some discussion that needs to be had.

Currently we upscale the Prime All Might level cast to both Speed of Light and Class E.

Class E without a doubt needs to be dropped. They'll still scale to Star, but the gap to Class E is now around 2.7x, which is way too big for any upscaling here.

The speed upscale is a little bit iffy as well. The current gap is now 1.6x, which is a larger than our previous gap of 1.25x.

As explained, they upscaled to Speed of Light because Faux 100% Izuku is able to move a vastly greater distance than Lady Nagant's bullets, which is faster than 45% Izuku.

Note: That Izuku blitzed a bullet Lady Nagant had enhanced to be faster than her normal shots.

79.57% SoL = 45% Izuku < Lady Nagant's Bullet < Lady Nagant's Enhanced Bullet < Faux 100% Izuku = Prime All Might.

That was the scaling, but now that value has become 62.27% SoL. We need to discuss if the current upscaling is still acceptable. This also effects Izuku's Gearshift and Tomura's Speed Quirks, as both of them are placed at FTL for scaling far above Prime All Might's speed.

We have three options here for speed.

Option 1: Put all of the Prime All Might level characters and above down to Relativistic+, basically we'll remove all upscaling.

Agree: Damage3245, (1)

Disagree:

Neutral:

Option 2: Keep the upscaling as is. Prime All Might characters will continue to upscale to Speed of Light and those above will remain FTL.

Agree: SuperStar, Dalesean027, Kingofwolves999, (3)

Disagree:

Neutral:

Option 3: Only those far faster than Prime All Might will upscale, meaning Izuku's Gearshift and Tomura's Quirks will be Speed of Light. The FTL rating will be removed.

Agree: GunshyFever, Dalesean027, (2)

Disagree:

Neutral:

Note: I'm fine with either Option 1 or Option 2, not a fan of Option 3 at all, but I imagine someone would bring it up.

But I believe Option 1 is the simplest and cleanest in this situation.

Regardless of which option is chosen, I'll need to change the scaling values that are written on any of the profiles that have them.
I'm in favor of option number 1
 
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