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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

Damn My Hero gets disgustingly downplayed pretty much everywhere. People at large still think it's city level and hypersonic at best. Well atleast with Deathbattle the scaling perception will get better.
Really? The only place I see it get downplayed now is Comicvine and that site is a ghost town, the few people who remain there are morons

Reddit PowerScaling seems to paint MHA in a better light

Spacebattle forums seem to be receptive and most agree that characters like Shigaraki, AFO etc can train wreck most of the Naruto cast except the top tiers

I don't think its the site as much as its the fanbase....for example the One Piece cultist when they try to downplay I bring up one of many showings of OP characters being below sonic speeds then they suddenly STFU
 
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Damn My Hero gets disgustingly downplayed pretty much everywhere. People at large still think it's city level and hypersonic at best. Well atleast with Deathbattle the scaling perception will get better.
This mostly happens on spacebattle. If you check the current deku vs astoria debate that is going on their lot of people are having brain damage from deku being above mountain level and chose not to continue after seeing a balant feat from the recent movie.

Site like YouTube and tiktok have started wanking deku speed to infinite speed and above due to gearshift. I have no idea where the deku downplay would be coming from.
 
You wound me....

But this is Domina, and on a 2nd overview I realize I forgot about the AP gaps meaning this fight would be bad
 
So guys, excuse my ignorance, I come here from time to time, I used to watch a lot of MHA back then and I think I'm gonna catch up on the series, however, that's not relevant, only wanted to tell that I come here from time to time for some discussions. The main reason I came here is because I want to ask for a future matchup I have, and just something I never really understood overall.: Can deku use OFA at 1 million percent, or even just at beyond a hundred? It was heavily implied and stated by a lot of characters, including vestiges and statements from AM that yes, OFA's limit is a million. However the only time Deku "used" a million it was not a million at all, rather iirc something like 50 or a hundred (btw hundred seems to be the limit but I'm confused) and was a hyperbole, which was confirmed by the author that he used against muscular to hype himself up, and the reason it was so strong is also because he combined 2 techniques: Delaware and Detroit smash. Now, we see a lot of times, deku rarely goes beyond a hundred even, but, and excuse me if I'm wrong... didn't he go beyond 100 recently? Like a 125% or something like that? Also, why introduce more percentages if he will rarely use it? I know the series is over now, and we never really got to know if going beyond a hundred (Which AM has also done before) was literal, or not, or if a million is really the real limit or just unreliaibly stated to be.
 
So guys, excuse my ignorance, I come here from time to time, I used to watch a lot of MHA back then and I think I'm gonna catch up on the series, however, that's not relevant, only wanted to tell that I come here from time to time for some discussions. The main reason I came here is because I want to ask for a future matchup I have, and just something I never really understood overall.: Can deku use OFA at 1 million percent, or even just at beyond a hundred? It was heavily implied and stated by a lot of characters, including vestiges and statements from AM that yes, OFA's limit is a million. However the only time Deku "used" a million it was not a million at all, rather iirc something like 50 or a hundred (btw hundred seems to be the limit but I'm confused) and was a hyperbole, which was confirmed by the author that he used against muscular to hype himself up, and the reason it was so strong is also because he combined 2 techniques: Delaware and Detroit smash. Now, we see a lot of times, deku rarely goes beyond a hundred even, but, and excuse me if I'm wrong... didn't he go beyond 100 recently? Like a 125% or something like that? Also, why introduce more percentages if he will rarely use it? I know the series is over now, and we never really got to know if going beyond a hundred (Which AM has also done before) was literal, or not, or if a million is really the real limit or just unreliaibly stated to be.
The 1 Million Percent was just him hyping himself up, yeah. I think Deku said it REALLY more like “110%,” when he looks back on the fight thanks to adrenaline.

The 120% is him using his Quirks creatively to stack buffs (Gearshift, Blackwhip to Reinforce, Fa Jin to amplify blows, etc.) It’s something he can only do rarely because it’s taxing, hence why doesn’t spam it, but that was a legitimate statement (really beyond 100%) compared to the 1 Million (merely hype).

In time, had he the chance to completely Master the Quirk, he likely would’ve been able to generate percentages closer to 200% and do so continuously without struggle. He just never reached that point since he had to lose OFA to beat AFO and Shiggy.
 
The 1 Million Percent was just him hyping himself up, yeah. I think Deku said it REALLY more like “110%,” when he looks back on the fight thanks to adrenaline.

The 120% is him using his Quirks creatively to stack buffs (Gearshift, Blackwhip to Reinforce, Fa Jin to amplify blows, etc.) It’s something he can only do rarely because it’s taxing, hence why doesn’t spam it, but that was a legitimate statement (really beyond 100%) compared to the 1 Million (merely hype).

In time, had he the chance to completely Master the Quirk, he likely would’ve been able to generate percentages closer to 200% and do so continuously without struggle. He just never reached that point since he had to lose OFA to beat AFO and Shiggy.
So.. my only question from all this since I know that he can use it beyond a hundred, is: Is OFA's limit then really a million or..
(Since I have no idea if one can go even 200 likely, then what is the limit)
 
So.. my only question from all this since I know that he can use it beyond a hundred, is: Is OFA's limit then really a million or..
(Since I have no idea if one can go even 200 likely, then what is the limit)
No, one million was just hype. There’s no validity to this.

Given how much Deku was explicitly mix-matching and not operating at his full potential, he likely can go above 120 to a value closer to 200%.

The highest we’ve ever actually seen “on screen” was 120%.
 
Would have been cool if Deku punched Shiggy a thousand times stacked it all and then did a TRUE ONE MILLION PERCENT
 
He'd have to be using 1,000% for that lol
Ah right 10 thousand punches. Can think off a good scenario for this.

Shigaraki took the shock absorption quirk from USJ nomu during prison break and more mass means more shock absorption so he uses apex armor. Deku is forced to use a barrage of attack to keep shigaraki down while breaking through the armor and charging fajin at the same time, at 9,999 punches the armor breaks and the last punch is True 1 million percent.
 
Ah right 10 thousand punches. Can think off a good scenario for this.

Shigaraki took the shock absorption quirk from USJ nomu during prison break and more mass means more shock absorption so he uses apex armor. Deku is forced to use a barrage of attack to keep shigaraki down while breaking through the armor and charging fajin at the same time, at 9,999 punches the armor breaks and the last punch is True 1 million percent.
That'd be kinda neat. Maybe Deku's speed is also increasing with every punch he throws.
 
Got my hands on the blu ray. Going to need to wait for people to make subtitles for certain moments.

Base Valdo will be Unknown. His Quirk had already been boosted by Anna the very second we see him. All of his fights and feats come from being boosted.

Scaling is going to be very funky. Lower tier scaling is actually pretty good. Some characters will be upgraded, but I'll handle that in the actual lower tier thread.

Dark Might is going to be weird to scale. He's not going to be less than High 6-B, but we have some strange situations. I can confirm that Izuku never once used Full Cowl 100%, nor did I hear him even say Faux 100% at all. In fact, he never gives any kind of percentage. Which isn't surprising since it was the same in the last movie.

I find it jarring that Izuku just held back for the entire movie. Maybe there's an explanation I'll find in the subs, but it's the only part of the movie that makes me feel iffy.

There was a moment at the end that looks like Izuku completely stomps Dark Might single handedly. Shoto and Bakugo aren't capable of stopping him, but Izuku wakes up and just absolutely destroys him. He's taking out chunks of Dark Might's body with just the air pressure of his attacks, and he isn't using Fa Jin or anything.

I know Bakugo and Shoto were attacking as well, but it pretty clear they weren't reaching his body. While Izuku's attack did and was vastly stronger.

His last drop kick split apart the entire fortress as well. Something Endeavor couldn't even do with a Plus Ultra Prominence Burn. Izuku is not at 100%, isn't using extra Quirks, and still performed a feat way beyond what Endeavor could do. It's seriously insane how powerful Izuku is.
 
Got my hands on the blu ray. Going to need to wait for people to make subtitles for certain moments.

Base Valdo will be Unknown. His Quirk had already been boosted by Anna the very second we see him. All of his fights and feats come from being boosted.

Scaling is going to be very funky. Lower tier scaling is actually pretty good. Some characters will be upgraded, but I'll handle that in the actual lower tier thread.

Dark Might is going to be weird to scale. He's not going to be less than High 6-B, but we have some strange situations. I can confirm that Izuku never once used Full Cowl 100%, nor did I hear him even say Faux 100% at all. In fact, he never gives any kind of percentage. Which isn't surprising since it was the same in the last movie.

I find it jarring that Izuku just held back for the entire movie. Maybe there's an explanation I'll find in the subs, but it's the only part of the movie that makes me feel iffy.

There was a moment at the end that looks like Izuku completely stomps Dark Might single handedly. Shoto and Bakugo aren't capable of stopping him, but Izuku wakes up and just absolutely destroys him. He's taking out chunks of Dark Might's body with just the air pressure of his attacks, and he isn't using Fa Jin or anything.

I know Bakugo and Shoto were attacking as well, but it pretty clear they weren't reaching his body. While Izuku's attack did and was vastly stronger.

His last drop kick split apart the entire fortress as well. Something Endeavor couldn't even do with a Plus Ultra Prominence Burn. Izuku is not at 100%, isn't using extra Quirks, and still performed a feat way beyond what Endeavor could do. It's seriously insane how powerful Izuku is.
Hey, Rusty, what was your favorite member of the mafia guys? I like the goofy-looking little old guy that jumps around and goes "heehee hoohoo"
 
Hey, Rusty, what was your favorite member of the mafia guys? I like the goofy-looking little old guy that jumps around and goes "heehee hoohoo"
I figured it'd be obvious. Ara Ara always wins. However, the face she made when Giulio's leg turned into a rocket was priceless.

Since I don't have subtitles and haven't seen the dub, I'm mostly going off of appearances and the vibe they give me.

I think Bruno had the best aura of the group... until he folded when he saw Izuku moving at athletic human level speed while under his Quirk.

Seriously, Izuku wasn't moving all that fast. Felt like he could've just stepped to the side to avoid him. They were all kind of goofy in one way or another.

Although, Simon was rather entertaining. His wizard outfit and magic staff took me completely off guard.

Anyone else feel like Dark Might could've won had he worked alongside his allies? Slow down people with Delay Spot, remove their Quirks with Erasure Spot, and put them under control with Day Dream.
 
I figured it'd be obvious. Ara Ara always wins. However, the face she made when Giulio's leg turned into a rocket was priceless.

Since I don't have subtitles and haven't seen the dub, I'm mostly going off of appearances and the vibe they give me.

I think Bruno had the best aura of the group... until he folded when he saw Izuku moving at athletic human level speed while under his Quirk.

Seriously, Izuku wasn't moving all that fast. Felt like he could've just stepped to the side to avoid him. They were all kind of goofy in one way or another.

Although, Simon was rather entertaining. His wizard outfit and magic staff took me completely off guard.

Anyone else feel like Dark Might could've won had he worked alongside his allies? Slow down people with Delay Spot, remove their Quirks with Erasure Spot, and put them under control with Day Dream.
Yeah, definitely agree with like all of this, lol
 
We better have a profile for Giulio, bro was MVP

Also I want to see the ship feat calced, even if it isn't High 6-A as well
 
Goddamn this is by far one of the if not the best looking anime fight I have ever seen. Second is like Gogeta vs Broly. Never thought anything would top that.

Not much in terms of feat aside from Deku at a unknown percentage over 45% moving at normal speed in a time slow bubble where bullets move like 2mm per second. So calc what you can with that. I doubt we are going to get anything substantial out of this movie.

Although that other guy who fought Deku did freeze in it, but that would be calc stacking.

No Gearshift. I was hoping I would see it in movie quality. Well gotta wait for movie 5.
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Got my hands on the blu ray. Going to need to wait for people to make subtitles for certain moments.

Base Valdo will be Unknown. His Quirk had already been boosted by Anna the very second we see him. All of his fights and feats come from being boosted.

Scaling is going to be very funky. Lower tier scaling is actually pretty good. Some characters will be upgraded, but I'll handle that in the actual lower tier thread.

Dark Might is going to be weird to scale. He's not going to be less than High 6-B, but we have some strange situations. I can confirm that Izuku never once used Full Cowl 100%, nor did I hear him even say Faux 100% at all. In fact, he never gives any kind of percentage. Which isn't surprising since it was the same in the last movie.

I find it jarring that Izuku just held back for the entire movie. Maybe there's an explanation I'll find in the subs, but it's the only part of the movie that makes me feel iffy.

There was a moment at the end that looks like Izuku completely stomps Dark Might single handedly. Shoto and Bakugo aren't capable of stopping him, but Izuku wakes up and just absolutely destroys him. He's taking out chunks of Dark Might's body with just the air pressure of his attacks, and he isn't using Fa Jin or anything.

I know Bakugo and Shoto were attacking as well, but it pretty clear they weren't reaching his body. While Izuku's attack did and was vastly stronger.

His last drop kick split apart the entire fortress as well. Something Endeavor couldn't even do with a Plus Ultra Prominence Burn. Izuku is not at 100%, isn't using extra Quirks, and still performed a feat way beyond what Endeavor could do. It's seriously insane how powerful Izuku is.
Deku was watching Dragon Ball Z the day before. Goku taught him to 'probe the opponent'
 
I figured it'd be obvious. Ara Ara always wins. However, the face she made when Giulio's leg turned into a rocket was priceless.

Since I don't have subtitles and haven't seen the dub, I'm mostly going off of appearances and the vibe they give me.

I think Bruno had the best aura of the group... until he folded when he saw Izuku moving at athletic human level speed while under his Quirk.

Seriously, Izuku wasn't moving all that fast. Felt like he could've just stepped to the side to avoid him. They were all kind of goofy in one way or another.

Although, Simon was rather entertaining. His wizard outfit and magic staff took me completely off guard.

Anyone else feel like Dark Might could've won had he worked alongside his allies? Slow down people with Delay Spot, remove their Quirks with Erasure Spot, and put them under control with Day Dream.
Maybe he was shocked and froze from panic or it was just one of the anime thing where character can comment on a attack being too fast but can't dodge. Idk pretty weird.
 
How is Dark Might getting scaled? Although he is under a boost the entire movie.
High 6-B just based on fighting our Trio.

With his statements, he might scale above Weakened All Might by an unknown amount. That's pretty much it.

Dark Might gets boosted several times through out the movie.

Anna's Quirk seems to not do much after the first boost. He really wasn't getting all that stronger like the movie wants you to believe.
 
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