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Go to their respective profiles to see what the consensus is.
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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18
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If Mirko was incapable of defeating either of them, she wouldn't have the qualifications of directly fighting against Current Shigaraki, let alone do any of the things she was able to do in that fight.
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So yes. You think Mirko would be able to 1v1 Kamino All Might and AFO?
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Do you actually need things be spelled out for you?
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I mean, I gave you a yes or no question, and you answered with a paragraph.
But yeah, this has been a pretty interesting experience. This is not the place for me.
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This entire debate was pretty much built on the basis of arguing from incredulity.
It's not a good mindset if you want a fact-based discussion.
It's not a good mindset if you want a fact-based discussion.
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Is it too difficult to understand?
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It wasn't even a paragraph. It was 1 sentence.
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A paragraph is defined as “a group of sentences or a single sentence that forms a unit”
But DW, won't bother you folks with this discussion anymore. I'll just show up for the plot after the new chapters. Your interpretation of the genuine powerscaling is rotting my brain.
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Brings no evidence, entire point is based around headcanon and "i guess"; and calls it "genuine powerscaling".
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You're implying that I wrote a lengthy response by calling a single sentence a paragraph unnecessarily.
Though it might be too long for you specifically. That's okay.
Yeah I tend to frown upon logical fallacies and headcanons being treated above feats.
Through experience, a lot of people indeed find that appalling.
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In hindsight, there is some comedic value with the MHA fanbase still considering AFO to be someone untouchable while simultaneously complaining about AFO being used like a punching bag up until the latest chapters when he finally started overpowering the heroes (while still taking damage no less).
Or how Current Shigaraki was described to be accumulating damage from his fight, and was even visibly hurt.
There is a real cognitive dissonance between how the manga is portraying the scaling amongst and between the characters and how some of the fans think the scaling should be based on their impression.
Prime All Might and All For One are figures that is so legendary that they can't reconcile the fact that other characters can still reach them somewhat, so when it happens it's all chaos inside these fans' heads.
Not even to mention how people confuse these characters in their Primes and past their Primes, which happened in the bickering earlier.
It's not as bad as some fans thinking that Snipe could end Current Shigaraki, but at least the idea of Snipe soloing the strongest character in the story with the power of a gun is actually really funny.
Or how Current Shigaraki was described to be accumulating damage from his fight, and was even visibly hurt.
There is a real cognitive dissonance between how the manga is portraying the scaling amongst and between the characters and how some of the fans think the scaling should be based on their impression.
Prime All Might and All For One are figures that is so legendary that they can't reconcile the fact that other characters can still reach them somewhat, so when it happens it's all chaos inside these fans' heads.
Not even to mention how people confuse these characters in their Primes and past their Primes, which happened in the bickering earlier.
It's not as bad as some fans thinking that Snipe could end Current Shigaraki, but at least the idea of Snipe soloing the strongest character in the story with the power of a gun is actually really funny.
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I am so stealing this one
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Honestly a fight between non-crippled Mirko and Kamino AFO is not that simple. Yeah one hit from her and he gets popped like a grape but his range/AOE, fighting skill, versatility, and the fact that one good touch is all it takes to depower her makes it a tricky match-up, also does Mirko has any LS feats for her upper body? She does have one of if not the best stamina/pain tolerance in the verse tho and he can't shit talk her into carelessness like he did All Might and Endeavor so there's that
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Probably any but he just prefers the face
We dont know how we took that one heroes quirk right after he got back into his prime so there's that ig
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We’d just assume it’s from a touch in general.
Endeavor was worried about him touching him in a general sense, Tokoyami claims Afo can’t take quirks from touching the actual quirk which kinda implies it has to be a touch on a person if they’re worried about him taking a quirk just from touching the quirk.
I guess afo has a thing for choking people.
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Cuz remembering all the time the quirk's actual ability get used, it's always the head/face and nowhere else which i find interesting
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Iirc, he grabbed the back of her head/neck, so it's always in that general area
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Ranged attack users in general are just pretty difficult for CQC characters. Large scale Air Cannons can be difficult in particular.
Mirko is nearer Hawks's speed than Endeavor and she's quite mobile so that helps her evading AFO's attacks, but it's a different matter entirely if she wants to get close especially since All For One just tends to stay up in the air.
In that sense, you can argue that most times AFO would still win against Mirko as long as he doesn't do something stupid like the All Might fight.
Mirko is nearer Hawks's speed than Endeavor and she's quite mobile so that helps her evading AFO's attacks, but it's a different matter entirely if she wants to get close especially since All For One just tends to stay up in the air.
In that sense, you can argue that most times AFO would still win against Mirko as long as he doesn't do something stupid like the All Might fight.
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I think Mirko would win, just kick him really hard.
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Post prison afo>kamino afo
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It does.
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Should probably have it added to AFO and Shigaraki's profile then ,since it's the exact same quirk
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This is ignoring all the handicaps Hori gave AFO-Shigaraki in that fight. It was outright stated that the mass of arms affected his mobility. It isn't surprising he wouldn't be able to blitz anyone in a form where his mass was exploding exponentially.
The fact is that every casual move he made was lethal to the team he was fighting and he obtained victory over these high-tiers in 5 or so minutes.
A shockwave from his punch drew blood from Edgeshot and Mirko and kept them out of the fight for minutes.
Best Jeanist didn't even have a chance to do anything against him and was completely helpless even with Carbon Fiber cables which were previously able to restrain High-ends and a drugged Machia.
The heroes were even getting damaged by his appendages which were outright said to be less sturdier than his main body.
Then at the end Suneater & Mirko were basically blitzed while Nejire got taken down by getting some rocks tossed at her.
Bakugo got onetapped twice. He landed the first attack on the Shigaraki who still had countless arms and appendages hence limited mobility and still got countered easily. He got a speed boost power-up and one blitz on AFO-Shiggy before he got one-tapped yet again.
These guys stood no chance. And honestly, if AFO-Shiggy didn't choose to start the fight with the Singularity multiple arms shit that is explicitly said to have limited his All Might level mobility, they would have gotten blitzed and destroyed.
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Just AFO, we don’t know if he used a new set of combinations or not. In his time out of prison he could be stockpiling on new quirks, we don’t know.
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There's also the fact that his personality and fighting style at the time was mostly influenced by AFO. And as we all know, he's one stupid and prideful mf that tend to hold back and drag on when fighting those he perceives as lesser, had Shiggy gotten the reign since the start he would've decimated them due to the fact that bro does not mess around unnecessarily
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His physical speed wasn’t effected, only his hands lost their speed. There’s 0 reason to why Bakugo was reacting to his attacks.
Or any of the heroes could react and attempt to stop an enraged Shigi trying to kill Bakugo.
They weren’t lethal, a drop of blood aint nothing. Mirko, someone with shitty durability literally ate a punch to the face and got up and walked.
Minutes? Since when?
While there’s a difference in strength, it isn’t that major.
They survived a punch from him no?
After he increased in power lol
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The USJ Nomu literally has shock absorption. It can counter physical attacks. Even a fodder character is given that quirk would be a beast defense-wise.
No High-end is coming close in terms of durability unless they have a defensive quirk on par with Shock Absorption.
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Then there’s mirko just working AFO for no reason. The damaging part can be understandable by him losing his mind, but there’s 0 reason to why he didn’t react to any of those kicks.
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If you’d have read the discussion instead of looking at one message, misinterpreting it clearly, then you’d probably know why this isn’t it
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Some Rabbit chick one shots most of the high tiers and some people can’t accept that.
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Honestly this thread has mature greatly. I remember during the Hood and Jaku fight, some people just REFUSED to accept that Endeavor is comparable to AM in some way shape or form. To them, the skyscraper cutting feat was the pinnacle of his abilities, nothing more nothing less
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