Multipliers and logical assumptions

[Uzil-IVrei]

I'm not a big booji scaler so don't check me, when a character transforms and gets stronger... why is it not 2x? like the bare minimum let it be 1.5X, I understand it's not quantifiable or something but, no way would a character get a "boost" and become "stronger" with a 1.1X multiplier, that's like adding an ant's strength to a lion, say 20 exatons of strength, then the character gets a transformation and is now "much stronger" and that much stronger is 1.1X... or 1.2X etc, 20 X 1.1 is 22, i know how big an exaton is but that's just astonishingly meaningless, if it's 1.5 its 30, that's not much but is certianly better.

for some example I'll use enel (One Piece)
this dude done damaged space pirate equipment and is now multi-continental+ and his Amaru is a transformation that makes him stronger, and what is the scale he gets is "higher with Amaru" ... cuh... why not moon level? I mean he's literally right behind the Moon level tier, his calc is 22.7903 Exatons, moon level starts at 29.6 Exatons, if you give this man a 1.3x multiplier he's moon level, why isn't his strongest form more than 1.2x? it shouldn't be such an insignificant amount, 1.5x is a very small amount but it at LEAST covers him to a greater extent that actually helps even if it doesn't boost him to moon level.

yes this is all i got, just confusion, I'll happily welcome a smooth smack proving me wrong or explaining it for me

 

[Agnaa]

idk about Enel's specific case. The only time when we really do this sort of thing is when a character is Close Enough to the next tier, and Enel's does seem to be in a plausible range for that. But I'm not a OP scaler, so idk if there's anything funky going on there.

In general, it's unquantifiable as you said, and it varies a lot across series. So we figure we might as well just let the feats speak for themselves. Worst case scenario, if the series stops dropping feats but keeps adding transformations, we can just say "Unknown, at least X, far higher with Transformation".

 

[Uzil-IVrei]

idk about Enel's specific case. The only time when we really do this sort of thing is when a character is Close Enough to the next tier, and Enel's does seem to be in a plausible range for that. But I'm not a OP scaler, so idk if there's anything funky going on there.

In general, it's unquantifiable as you said, and it varies a lot across series. So we figure we might as well just let the feats speak for themselves. Worst case scenario, if the series stops dropping feats but keeps adding transformations, we can just say "Unknown, at least X, far higher with Transformation".

Good enough explanation, i can work with that but until there is a reason to assume that a transformation would be so small such as below 1.5x I'll keep assuming 2x bare minimum or 1.5x if i have to

 

[Agnaa]

Yeah like, I'm mostly cautious of giving an exact number because some stories stack, like, a dozen of these without any feats. So with us being careful, we only really count the first/biggest jump.

But if the transformation makes a character stronger enough to shitstomp people they were on-par with earlier, I'd be fine with that crossing a <1.5x gap.