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Never been more bored then today so **** it why not.
Speed is Equal, both are at their strongest.
Morrigan Aensland
Tifa Lockhart
Speed is Equal, both are at their strongest.
Morrigan Aensland
Tifa Lockhart
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Morrigan Aensland vs Tifa Lockhart
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So what hax does Morrigan have that would work on Tifa? Cause her passives aren't gonna work on her and going off of the 3-C rating she's potentially far higher than baseline if the supernova dimension size is anything to go off of.
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Tifa apparently scales to a dimension that can contain a galaxy, I have no idea how far above baseline that is.
Morrigan scales to about 4x above baseline, Morrigan and Lilith in base are equal to Pyron who is twice the size of the Milky Way and they merged together
Morrigan scales to about 4x above baseline, Morrigan and Lilith in base are equal to Pyron who is twice the size of the Milky Way and they merged together
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The dimension is a lot larger given the galaxy is shown to be rather small compared to the rest of the area, but I'll just assume they're around the same level. Either way the only thing I can see helping Morrigan is cloning, and dream manipulation but idk if the latter's combat applicable. Flight is nothing new to Tifa since she fought numerous flying foes in the past, either way Tifa should have this via experience and the wide variety of hax she has that morrigan doesn't resist. Only a matter of time until one of those hits morrigan and takes her out of the picture for good.
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How good is Tifa's soul resistance?
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pretty sure it's planetary at bare minimum if the lifestream is anything to go off of.
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Morrigan's is universal scaling from Makai, Im unsure how it activates though, @SamanPatou knows more then I do
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I'm not giving opinions on the match, because I don't know Tifa that well and I don't want to look too much at the profile for spoilers (I have both versions of FF7 in the backlog), but Morrigan's dream manip isn't combat applicable, since she basically sucks brain liquid from sleeping people, and we have no evidences she can use her soul manip on healthy individuals and not only on much weaker or straight up defeated foes.
I don't know where the Makai thing comes from tbh, if you refer to the Shintai, that's a thing Jedah made overtime by stealing souls. If you refer to him using the souls of countless demons, that's something I read on the wiki but of which I didn't find any confirmation in any source, just him using Ozom's soul after quickly defeating him.
Unfortunately, her body odor hax doesn't work on women, but her blood and saliva do, but I don't know if Tifa resists poisons (you said she resists her passives, so I guess corruption, madness and stuff like that).
And Morrigan scales a bit above 4X baseline, since Pyron's orbital path alone was over two times the Milky Way, meaning that he was at least larger than that, and Morrigan dobuled her stats by merging with Lilith.
(Also, I'm happy of seeing another Darkstalkers match, keep going with them, people)
I don't know where the Makai thing comes from tbh, if you refer to the Shintai, that's a thing Jedah made overtime by stealing souls. If you refer to him using the souls of countless demons, that's something I read on the wiki but of which I didn't find any confirmation in any source, just him using Ozom's soul after quickly defeating him.
Unfortunately, her body odor hax doesn't work on women, but her blood and saliva do, but I don't know if Tifa resists poisons (you said she resists her passives, so I guess corruption, madness and stuff like that).
And Morrigan scales a bit above 4X baseline, since Pyron's orbital path alone was over two times the Milky Way, meaning that he was at least larger than that, and Morrigan dobuled her stats by merging with Lilith.
(Also, I'm happy of seeing another Darkstalkers match, keep going with them, people)
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poisons is one of the recurring status ailments in the final fantasy series that can be resisted with numerous equipment and whatnot, so yeah it gets resisted, and yeah the corruption and madness stuff was what I was talking about.
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I'm not voting because I don't know Tifa that well and it wouldn't be honest for me to vote one or another (at least in my own perspective) but I want to keep this alive, regardless of who wins at the end.
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Given that I learned that the Lifestream is somewhere in the Quadrillions because its every being that has ever lived, Soul Hax may not be useful and this might be an AP stomp
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Are you sure? Morrigan is > 4X baseline, while Tifa is unquantifiably above baseline, it's not in the one shot range, I think.
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That's the main problem
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Got it, I don't know if it's a matter of perspective or else, as it could be below Morrigan's level, around it, slightly bigger (or still not in one-shot range) oe straight up incredibly higher.
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I don't know either because I have no idea whether the amount of area that surrounds a dimension counts as being higher then galaxy level. Unfortunately that's kinda massively important to the fight
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So Tifa just does an MK uppercut here?
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Some of the people who carried out the FF revisions should know more precisely to what level she scales (I've seen many matches involving Sephiroth recently, they must have had some clue on his AP).
Maybe I should tag someone expert?
Maybe I should tag someone expert?
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Sure
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Depending on the AP yeah
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@DarkDragonMedeus @Matthew_Schroeder @ZephyrosOmega @HST_Master
Does any of you know with some precision what's Tifa's AP, compared to baseline or something?
We need it to know if her facing a character who is fairly above 4X baseline would result in Tifa oneshotting her.
Does any of you know with some precision what's Tifa's AP, compared to baseline or something?
We need it to know if her facing a character who is fairly above 4X baseline would result in Tifa oneshotting her.
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Weird, I thought all staff members could ping.
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I forgot you're a content mod
IM BLIND
IM BLIND
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(Ok, let's stop the derailment, lol)
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I associated yellow with the profile pic not the color of the staff truth be told
SHUTTING UP
SHUTTING UP
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I'm not sure how far above baseline 3-C she is tbh
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Crap
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I believe it was @TartaChocholate who might know more details if anyone does.
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Yeah I wasn't that involved in the VII revisions,Tarta would be the one to ask
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Btw, why is there like 3 characters in 7 that have 4-A to 3-C but the rest are still 4-B? Did the revisions not get finished or something?
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By the looks of it; it wasn't finished.
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Time to resurrect this, Tifa's AP apparently is somewhat above baseline, meaning she has a slight disadvantage on that or is even, not a big deal for the fight itself.
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Bump?
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Tifa’s 3B now tho
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Shit!
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