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just kill
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Morgoth (Prime) VS Hades (Original Body)
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just kill
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Morgoth via speed.
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Morgoth via speed as already stated its a shame we don't known how fast "divine speed" is in SS sadly
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Unless it allows Hades to move beyond 3-D time, it wouldn't matter.
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Meh don't know likely not tho
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I think Morgoth speed can kill Hades, but I remember Morgoth is Low 2-C and Hades is 2-C,
so I stayed with doubt
so I stayed with doubt
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Except Hades is only possibly Multi-Universe level, and by having Immeasurable speed, Hades literally cannot hit Morgoth no matter what he does.
Also, saying he can steal any kind of immortality is kind of an NLF.
Also, saying he can steal any kind of immortality is kind of an NLF.
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Immeasurable speed means you move beyond 3-D perception of time, making you automatically faster than even the fastest Massively FTL+ characters, or even ones with Infinite Speed.
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@Phantasys
I'm aware that Hades is fast man he was blitzing all of them with his eyes closed but omnipresence is basically already being everywhere and this guys speed is immeasurable .I think divine speed could be above MFTL+ and likely infinite or so based off his infinite cosmos but that's mere speculation for the moment morgoth wins this via speed
I'm aware that Hades is fast man he was blitzing all of them with his eyes closed but omnipresence is basically already being everywhere and this guys speed is immeasurable .I think divine speed could be above MFTL+ and likely infinite or so based off his infinite cosmos but that's mere speculation for the moment morgoth wins this via speed
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This victory will be add to Morgoth, or that is irrelevant.
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Thanks for attention guys.
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True form Melkor, the other Valar, and Eru, can exist and interact in a higher level of existence known as the Timeless Halls, which, as the name states, are timeless and do not abide by the laws of the lower world. There's also the fact that true Morgoth is a living concept who doesn't really need "speed".Zeref10 said:
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By other conceptual beings along with the supreme power of his verse?
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wan't it because he spent most of his power corrupting Arda by turning elfves and other beings into Orcs,trolls and other foul creatures and despite being hyped as a universal+ being he and the other valer are incapable of creating sentient life on their own this and their lack of combat feats puts doubts in my mind about their implied power.
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Originally, Morgoth was stronger than all the other Valar. However, yes. He did throw his power around a lot, and it left him open for being weakened and cast out. I have no idea how not being able to create sentient life disqualifies someone from being universe+, and there is really no reason for the Valar to have explicit combat feats in their higher forms, because LotR isn't a shonen manga that's solely focused on combat. Much of it is just presented a pleasant prose.Zeref10 said:
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point is how did a universal being become so weak by corrupting a single planet.and also not being able to create life or ressurect the dead implies that their power is quite limited they can't alter reality or have powerful magic like you would expect from universal conceptional beings.and valar may not have feats because LOTR is not combat based like manga or the comics but that still doesn't change the fact that feats and statements are the most important thing in a VS debate.from what we know of them they don't seem to be very hax and can be weakened by using their power in corrupting low level beings like elves. and also existing in a timeless dimension doesn't necessarily mean they won't be effected by time once they have entered a reality where time exists.
