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I guess these ones at the very minimum? Moon Knight didn't really show a lot of usage with the Phoenix ForceWhat hax does Phoenix force give btw?
I guess these ones at the very minimum? Moon Knight didn't really show a lot of usage with the Phoenix Force
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Varies At least Planet Level (Fought and defeated Iron Fist[2], fought against the Black Panther with his technology)
Neither Black Panther's technology nor Danny's Iron Fist are solid outright 5-B. One has an "Up to" next to its 5-B and the other is "Varies, up to 5-B". Also, Danny's regular AP and durability are only 9-B, so harming him and taking several hits from aren't reasons for 5-B
Unnecessary to be a separate tier. Just place it under "2-A with Mjolnir" as a supporting justificationLow Multiverse level (Defeated Mephisto in Hell)
Fist of Phoenix Moon Knight isn't 2-A for receiving many broken bones and losing the Phoenix Force from getting his ass beaten by a pissed-off 2-A Thor
even if this is his True Form, you need to prove he is at a 2-A level when Fist of Phoenix Moon Knight fought him, since Khonshu explicitly has a "Varies" rating
Separate this from Fist of Phoenix and it's okay
SureShould I make fist of phoenix unknown?
Neither Black Panther's technology nor Danny's Iron Fist are solid outright 5-B. One has an "Up to" next to its 5-B and the other is "Varies, up to 5-B". Also, Danny's regular AP and durability are only 9-B, so harming him and taking several hits from aren't reasons for 5-B
From what I remember from this arc, the closest thing to what you're asking was against Black Panther in a 1vs1, a 8-C feat that could be argued it's 5-B due to T'Challa clearly usage of Wakanda technology that can negate durability, right?
Alright one secUnnecessary to be a separate tier. Just place it under "2-A with Mjolnir" as a supporting justification
His control over moons and moon rock. Controlling all those moons would probably be at least Class Z. Not sure about overpowering Thor's Weapon Control over Mjolnir. I guess "At least Class Z, likely far higher by controlling moon rock", or sth like that?His telekinesis
It is Class Z, Moon Knight called upon many moons to "imprison" Thor after the Mjolnir fight. Either Z or Y, but since it's said many moons, I'd go with Z.His control over moons and moon rock. Controlling all those moons would probably be at least Class Z. Not sure about overpowering Thor's Weapon Control over Mjolnir. I guess "At least Class Z, likely far higher by controlling moon rock", or sth like that?
i disagree. few issues appearances
this is quite obviously a nasty feat outlier moon knight get as many bonuses as he wants hell lords like mephisto are much stronger than normal in their realm mephisto much stronger than khonsu it can be called pure power and magicI must be making a mistake. Why is he 9-B? He should be Varies
Moon Knight beats the shit out of Iron First
Then absorbs all of Iron Fist powers which should give him Absorbtion and
Chi Bestowal, Projection and Construct Creation (Can fire chi blast, infuse objects with chi, Can reduce his body's energy to almost zero, and can create chi constructs), Energy Absorption (Can absorb energy, be it chi, nuclear, magical, etc), Magnetism Manipulation (Can flow his Chi through Electromagnetic Currents, affecting magnetism), Healing (Using chi, can heal himself from a near-death state, being reduced to a skeleton, cleanse his body of fatal poisons, and cure diseases), Regeneration (His healing powers act automatically), Mind Manipulation (Can read minds and meld them together. Mastered the Hypnotic Fist Technique, allowing him to control minds), Purification (Nulls Colleen Wing's mind control as well as his own), Limited Empathic Manipulation (His fists calmed down the Hulk enough he transformed back), Fire Manipulation (Can release Fiery Chi Blasts) and Matter Manipulation (After being "killed" used his Chi to give his spirit a physical body again)
Here he uses summoning to summon a bunch of Zombie mummy things and absorbs Dr. Strange
Immortality (Types 1 and 3. Has evolved past aging after overcoming Death's trials and christening himself as the Avatar of Eternity), Martial Arts, Weapon Mastery, Magic, Enhanced Senses (Strange's senses are both physically and magically attuned, and are thus capable of quickly detecting magical phenomenon and events, including things such as distortions in space and time), Clairvoyance (Through the Eye of Agamotto, he can peer into, and observe events happening in other planes of existence altogether, as well as different points in time and space), Psychometry, Levitation, Astral Projection, Forcefield Creation, Invulnerability with certain Spells, Teleportation, BFR (Through an incantation, he banished a living, demonic house to another space-time continuum, and later hurled Baron Mordo throughoutthe far ends of the universe. Sent the Silver Dagger to the dimension of unreality through the Eye of Agamotto, and banished D'Spayre to another plane of reality with the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak), Spatial Manipulation, Telekinesis, Telepathy (Strange's psychic power is enough tooverpowerUmar in a telepathic battle, pushing her abilities to their limits while in the Dark Dimension, where her power was at its peak), Fusionism (Can merge with Eternity through the Eye of Agamotto, and could fuse himself to Arioch, gaining his power and physical traits), Summoning (Can summon Hell Lords such as Satannish, and extremely powerful Cosmic Entities such as Lord Chaos and Master Order, as well as channel their power. Can also summon those he can locate[1]), Reality Warping, Matter Manipulation, Size Manipulation, Fire Manipulation, Transmutation, Water Manipulation, Energy Manipulation, Sound Manipulation (Capable of generating "sound beyond the very fabric of sound itself" in the form of waves of overwhelming energy which can make the likes of Baron Mordo reel in pain), Soul Manipulation (Forcibly took Mordo's astral form out of his body), Time Manipulation and Time Travel (Sent Mordo's astral form backwards through time itself), Time Stop (Caused the flow of time to cease across the entire planet), Mind Manipulation, Memory Manipulation, Sleep Manipulation, Empathic Manipulation, Power Nullification (The Eye of Agamotto is capable of swallowing opposing spells and reducing them to nothingness. Can enclose his foes in a bubble which negates all magical abilities. Nullified a temporal anomaly created by Yandroth), Power Absorption, Portal Creation, Dimensional Travel, Sealing, Necromancy, Non-Physical Interaction (Magical attacks and spells can affect and completely destroyspirits and astral forms), Attack Reflection (Redirected Borgo's power cosmic against him), Regeneration (Low-Godly. Reformed his own physical formafter both Dormammu and Strangeshattered each other's essencesacross multiple realms), Pocket Reality Manipulation (Created a "null space" which ran parallel to space-time itself, where constants such as space, direction and dimensionality where under his full control), Weather Manipulation, Possession, Gravity Manipulation, Perception Manipulation, Illusion Creation (Imprisoned a drunk, casual Beyonder within a veil of illusion, and could have kept him there for all of eternity. His illusions can fool even powerful Demons such as Arioch), Dream Manipulation (Can enter someone's dream to fight their horror), Light Manipulation (Can emanate a light beam with his amulet), Paralysis Inducement (Paralysed a group of people until he was gone), Smoke Manipulation (Cast a mist spell), and Life ForceAbsorption (Absorbed a demon's life-force), Life Manipulation (Can absorb life force and turned bullets into flies[2]), Air Manipulation (Created a tornado[3]), Resurrection (Resurrected Dead Girl), Immersion (Entered a dream with an astral projection), Animal Manipulation (Can turn things into flies, and conjured several bees to free him of honey)
Here he absorbs Ghostriders powers
Self-Sustenance (Types 2), Regeneration (At least High-Mid. Likely far higher, as he is listed as having "Godlike" regeneration, which is superior to characters able to regenerate from a single molecule), Resurrection, Telepathy, Soul Manipulation, Teleportation, Illusion Creation, Fire Manipulation, Can mind attack/make people suffer proportionate punishment for their sins people with the Penance Stare, Transmutation, Self-Size Manipulation (Grew in size when fighting Thor), Statistics Reduction (Able to weaken magical enhancements), Mind Control (Able to control the minds of those he uses the Penance Stare on), Telekinesis (via Hellfire), Summoning (Can summon other Ghost Riders), Possession (His powers began to consume Rogue's body and mind when she attempted to drain them), Pocket Reality Manipulation, Explosion Manipulation,
Controls Mjolnir and overpowers Thor
Transformation (Allows one to transform into Thor), Power Bestowal, Weapon Mastery, Regeneration (At least Low), Magic, Flight (Hammer's mechanism allows one to fly[1]), Self-Sustenance (Type 1), Statistics Amplification (Mjolnir increases its wielder's base strength, durability and speed), Automatic Translation (Mjolnir bestows All-Speak on its wearer which allows one to know the languages of 9 realms), Cloth Manipulation (Provides user with the costume), Elemental Manipulation (Mjolnir allows Thor to summon Rain, Wind, Thunder, Lightning[1] and Fire[2]), Interdimensional Portals (Can transport to distant dimensions and different plane of reality[1]), Energy Projection (Mystical energy blasts[1]), Homing Attack (Attacks multiple foes[3]), Absorption & Energy Manipulation (Absorbs Loki's Lifeforce[4], Returns 100 fold energy after absorbing it[5]), BFR (Banishes Juggernaut to a distant dimension[6]), Power Nullification (Stops Guardian from borrowing powers[7]), Magnetism Manipulation (Draws magnetic forces[8]), Matter Manipulation (Emits anti-matter particles[9]), Empathic Manipulation (Changes the heart of thieves[10]), Enhanced Senses, Information Analysis (Mjolnir can track magic energies, Knows the source of Juggernaut's powers[11][12], Detects life force[13]), Electromagnetic Manipulation (Thor absorbs the electromagnetic energy from Celestial Mothership and redirects it at a Celestial[14], Thor negates Magneto's shield), Transmutation (Transmutes the elements of Absorbing Man[2]), Reality Warping (Creates a vortex that pierced the fabric of endless space[15]), Spatial Manipulation, Time Manipulation(Created a space-time distorting vortex[16]), Longevity, Healing (Jane was unharmed by cancer in her Thor form, however it eventually debilitated her human form), Law Manipulation (Shatters the laws of space-time[17]), Forcefield Creation (Creates a dimensional vortex[18]), Holy Manipulation (Mjolnir is a religious relic[19]), Soul Manipulation (Sends souls back to their mortal bodies[20]), Danmaku (Creates multiple bolts of lighting[21]), Fire Manipulation (Mjolnir can project fire), Clairvoyance (Thor can send his consciousness back in time and space to recall events by swinging his hammer[22]), Radiation Manipulation (Thor creates alpha particles[23]), Antimatter Manipulation (Created antimatter), Non-Physical Interaction (Mjolnir allowed Thor to strike intangible body of Vision[24]), Formerly (Time Stop, Time Travel[25] & Resurrection[26])
Moonknight should go up to 2-C. He killed Mephisto in hell.
He will become 2-A after becoming the Fist Of Phoenix
Agreed.Yeah, at the end of the day, this is only a temporary power-up that lasted just a few issues. Not all that worth indexing
Sure thing, I guessAgreed.
Should we close this thread then?