Monster Hunter Apex Monsters Upgrade.

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

So a few days ago I found a feat that had never been Calc'd before, so I asked for it to be Calc'd and this is the result. The Mid-End is currently accepted, so that means all those who scale to this would be Large Building Level+.

All of the Apex Tier Monsters would scale to this, those being Lagiacrus, Rathalos, Diablos, etc. We'll narrow it down more as the Thread goes along because there's a fuckton of Monster Profiles on here. The Hunter would scale to this as well since they directly kill the Monsters that scale to this, Lagiacrus included.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Monster's that also scale to this off the top of my head are:

Obvious;
*Monoblos
*Gravios
*Yian-Garuga
*Tigrex
*Nargacuga
*Barioth
*Zinogre
*Duramboros
*Uragaan
*Brachydios
*Agnaktor
*Seregios
*Seltas Queen
*Glavenus
*Mizutsune
*Astalos
*Gammoth
*Anjanath
*Odogaron
*Legiana
*Goss Harag
*Rakna-Kadaki
*Almudron
*All apex tier subspecies (As well comparable Monsters like the EX large monsters from Stories).

Crossovers;
*Leshen.

Debatable;
*Rathian (Often depicted to be comparable to Rathalos and can best Anjanath herself)
*Lavasioth (Often depicted as the strongest fish wyvern and competes with Uragaan for territory)
*Blangonga (Often depicted as the strongest ape-based fanged beast behind the Elder Dragon tier Rajang)
*Najarala (Via sheer size also it's subspecies can actually survive the frenzy virus and become apex'ed monster).

As for the MMOs I'm couldn't tell ya tbh since I haven't played them and thus I'm not too familiar with the lore or scaling in those games.

That's my take so far.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Monster's that also scale to this off the top of my head are:

Obvious;
*Monoblos
*Gravios
*Yian-Garuga
*Tigrex
*Nargacuga
*Barioth
*Zinogre
*Duramboros
*Uragaan
*Brachydios
*Agnaktor
*Seregios
*Seltas Queen
*Glavenus
*Mizutsune
*Astalos
*Gammoth
*Anjanath
*Odogaron
*Legiana
*Goss Harag
*Rakna-Kadaki
*Almudron
*All apex tier subspecies (As well comparable Monsters like the EX large monsters from Stories).

Crossovers;
*Leshen.

Debatable;
*Rathian (Often depicted to be comparable to Rathalos and can best Anjanath herself)
*Lavasioth (Often depicted as the strongest fish wyvern and competes with Uragaan for territory)
*Blangonga (Often depicted as the strongest ape-based fanged beast behind the Elder Dragon tier Rajang)
*Najarala (Via sheer size also it's subspecies can actually survive the frenzy virus and become apex'ed monster).

As for the MMOs I'm couldn't tell ya tbh since I haven't played them and thus I'm not too familiar with the lore or scaling in those games.

That's my take so far.

Apex Tier Subspecies would include Fulgar Anjanath, right? It's definitely way stronger than a normal Anjanath with what it displays in it's Turf Wars. I know it shares it's animations with the normal Anjanath but it makes way more sense for the Fulgar Anjanath to scale to those since the Subspecies are usually stronger than the normal ones.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Apex Tier Subspecies would include Fulgar Anjanath, right? It's definitely way stronger than a normal Anjanath with what it displays in it's Turf Wars. I know it shares it's animations with the normal Anjanath but it makes way more sense for the Fulgar Anjanath to scale to those since the Subspecies are usually stronger than the normal ones.

Yeah Fulgar is included among the apex tier subspecies. Rise pretty much upgraded base Anjanath to apex tier with it being able to stalemate the likes of Tigrex and Zinogre (Only losing to the Raths thanks to their air superiority). Rise also makes the point that comparable monster's can outright beat or kill others if they have the terrain advantage, E.g: Diablos beat Anjanath in a cutscene thanks to having the environmental advantage in the desert to utilise it deadly burrowing skills.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bump.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bump.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

@Mr._Bambu liked my first comment so I guess he agrees with my assessment?

But some staff input would be nice.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bump.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bump.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Agree as well
Maybe call Ant to ping the staffs to come here

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

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[XSOULOFCINDERX]

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[XSOULOFCINDERX]

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[XSOULOFCINDERX]

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[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bump.

 

[Elizhaa]

The changes seem fine.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

I think that might be enough tbh since this CRT isn't changing tiers or granting new P&A, it's just an increase to AP/Durability/SS within the same tier.

The only issue is which monsters also get the buffs from the MMO games since (like I mentioned above) I'm not too familiar with them.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I think that might be enough tbh since this CRT isn't changing tiers or granting new P&A, it's just an increase to AP/Durability/SS within the same tier.

The only issue is which monsters also get the buffs from the MMO games since (like I mentioned above) I'm not too familiar with them.

I didn't even know Monster Hunter had any MMO Games.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

I didn't even know Monster Hunter had any MMO Games.

Monster Hunter Frontier (Japanese exclusive MH MMO), Monster Hunter Online (Chinese exclusive MH MMO) and Monster Hunter Explore (Japanese exclusive mobile gacha).

All of those games have MH profiles on this wiki iirc.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Monster Hunter Frontier (Japanese exclusive MH MMO), Monster Hunter Online (Chinese exclusive MH MMO) and Monster Hunter Explore (Japanese exclusive mobile gacha).

All of those games have MH profiles on this wiki iirc.

I don't know shit about them so I can't help there.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I don't know shit about them so I can't help there.

Move to Japan and play them

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

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[XSOULOFCINDERX]

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[Elizhaa]

I guess the scaling for the MMO games can be postponed for later from lack of expertise. The other changes seem fine to make to the profiles.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bump.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

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[XSOULOFCINDERX]

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[Elizhaa]

I think the relevant edits can be started.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bump.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

I think the relevant edits can be started.

Bump.

I think you're free to edit the profiles with the High 8-C updates (if you haven't done so already).

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I think you're free to edit the profiles with the High 8-C updates (if you haven't done so already).

I haven't even started. I'm definitely not gonna be able to do this on my own.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

I haven't even started. I'm definitely not gonna be able to do this on my own.

I can do the Gen 1 and 2 profiles at least, can you handle the rest or do you want to request staff help?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I can do the Gen 1 and 2 profiles at least, can you handle the rest or do you want to request staff help?

I think I can handle half of them.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

I think I can handle half of them.

Ok I'll do the Apex monsters from MH1 up to MH3U and you can do the Apex monsters from MH4 upto MHW Iceborne (since we don't have Rise profiles yet).

Seem fair?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I've fixed a few of them so far, including Rathalos and Lagiacrus themselves. How many have you gotten?

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

I've fixed a few of them so far, including Rathalos and Lagiacrus themselves. How many have you gotten?

Narga and Yian-Garuga are done.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Narga and Yian-Garuga are done.

Don't forget, they're all getting buffed to High 8-C+.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Don't forget, they're all getting buffed to High 8-C+.

Yeah thanks for reminding me.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Who's left? I've edited quote a few now.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

I think they're all done tbh, with all the times I got the edit conflict message (Are you're sure you needed my help? lol!).

The profiles I successfully edited and linked to this CRT:

*Yian-Garuga
*Nargacuga
*Glavenus
*Blangonga
*Leshen

The rest I assume you did yourself, what remains are the monsters without profiles (Zinogre) and MMO monsters.