Impossible.
Why does that mean Spidermonkey has a fighting skill advantage? That's just raw AP.
How does that make him more skilled than Goku?
You implying Kid Goku can avoid possession by a planet full of people as fast as him but invisible for like a week straight while fighting them?
Bro being better at hide and seek does not make you a better martial artist.
Now tell me. How does simply avoiding ghosts make you more skilled than a martial artist? Show me scans of Vilgax just standing there dodging continuous attacks from ectoneurites for weeks on end.
We don’t take statements now? Do you have any other interpretation to fit the narrative of the episode?
This would imply he has precog levels of dodging, which surely is a very good skill feat, something even a martial artist can not replicate.
So he fought for weeks or else how would he know?
Then gave up after they kept coming and he was worn out.
He doesn’t need to be a martial artist to be skilled per say, wrestlers for instance can be skilled in their own right. This also doesn’t debunk what I said earlier or him scaling to people with martial arts feats, Vilgax is just Vilgax so he rarely has to use skill to win in a fight in the first place. Also doesn’t he actually have martial arts feats in Gwen 10 and his Pre-OS self?
Woooooow, I said he had skill that rivals precog, read what I said. Precog levels of dodging =/= actual precog.
After weeks. Unless you think somehow the ectonurites wouldn’t use their capabilities to try and possess Vilgax during the time he stayed on the planet?
You didn’t give evidence for his skill. No skill feats, no reliable statements, no nothing. Just because you scale to a skilled fighter, does not mean you’re as skilled as them. That's stupid logic.
Is this about the Max scaling? If I’d have to give a scan for that it’d be one of yours lol. If not then the ectonurites aren’t particularly impressive skill-wise, they just have OP abilities which Vilgax has to counter with his skill since resistance isn’t an option and NPI is debatable and that still doesn’t cover invisibility. Also if you scale to a skilled fighter and you don’t have any significant other advantage over them, then yeah you not getting outskilled necessitates that you have comparable skill. Unless they are holding back or something.
I’d assume rock-monster Nr. 147 has some other advantage such as AP over Spidermonkey and that Spidermonkey wasn’t particularly giving it his best.
Back when he was a kid?
Yeah he already reached levels of strength roshi took years to reach in like a few months, and mastered a technique that took roshi 50 years to master in like 3 seconds after witnessing it once.
Your words mean nothing when there aren’t any skill feats for Spidermonkey that put him above Goku. I don’t even know why I’m still arguing with you when the score is 8-1. Actually, scratch that. It’s 8-0 because your arguments are that bad.
Ah so now scaling isn’t a thing anymore? Might as well scale every alien exclusively to their own feats then to screw up the lore completely.
I only started arguing when it was 6-0 iirc. And because we both know I’m gonna keep bringing this up in anything Ben 10 skill-related till one of us concedes or we find some sort of intermediary interpretation. Also if my interpretation turns out to be legit but Goku still outskills that’s also fine and wouldn’t change the score, doesn’t mean my arguments are bad.
"When Saiyans look into the moon they transform into Great Apes"Goku is a FAKE MONKEY!!
