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MK Verse Stat Boost

I think everyone thinks that. While it is canon PIS that's technically happened more than once, I do agree it's insane he could ever accomplish it.

But I'm also pretty sure most people attribute it to him getting too cocky.
 
HomestuckLover1 said:
I think everyone thinks that. While it is canon PIS that's technically happened more than once, I do agree it's insane he could ever accomplish it.

But I'm also pretty sure most people attribute it to him getting too cocky.
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This is due to the fact that...

Starting with the original timeline. Shang Tsung is afraid of MK2 Kahn. Kang defeats Kahn in MK2. Kahn becomes a planetary threat in MK3, and Mr. Walking Plot Device beats Kahn again. Fast forward to Deadly Alliance. Kang gets killed by both Tsung and Quan Chi. Tsung is weaker than MK2 Kahn and even with both of em, they're still VERY inferior to MK3 Kahn.


Rebooted Timeline: Liu Kang defeats Shao Kahn via his flame fist. Chapters later, Raiden kills Liu Kang by accident. Then comes Kahn, no more amped than before(Sindel received Tsung's power), curbstomping Raiden, literally no selling an attack from all the Elder Gods which was directed close to where he recieved the flame fist, and it took all of em possessing Raiden to take Kahn out.
 
So in case any mod doesn't want to go through this (sorta) mess to see if we reached a verdict, we did.

Hypersonic/Island level MK characters get a pass.
 
If the series mostly relies on PIS, we should probably go by individual feats to scale the characters. There are llenty of franchises for which powerscaling is generally ignkred by the writers.
 
Also, please stick to the topic. Much of this thread has not done so.
 
Antvasima said:
If the series mostly relies on PIS, we should probably go by individual feats to scale the characters. There are llenty of franchises for which powerscaling is generally ignkred by the writers.
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No what we were talking about bein PIS was Liu Kang beating Shao Kahn, not Liu Kang beating Shang Tsung. We were also kind of getting off topic talking about that too.
 
So the island level/hypersonic stuff still stands. It's just we were talking about how inconsistent they were with Liu Kang.
 
Well, the issue is that if much of the plot relies on PIS and Game Mechanics, with characters of vastly different power level somehow fighting roughly evenly against each other anyway, it seems far more reliable to go by individual feats than powerscaling.
 
Antvasima said:
Well, the issue is that if much of the plot relies on PIS and Game Mechanics, with characters of vastly different power level somehow fighting roughly evenly against each other anyway, it seems far more reliable to go by individual feats than powerscaling.
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The only parts that were really inconsistent or considerable PIS were things involving Liu Kang. Everything else in the series has been pretty much consistent.

Even then there are explanations for the inconsistencies with Liu Kang, such as that Shao Kahn got extremely cocky and Liu Kang was ganged up on and had to fight two powerful sorcerers all on his own.
 
Skodwarde The Almighty said:
Yeah i say any tier Liu Kang has powerscaling him due to Shao Kahn should be removed due to PIS and extreme inconsistencies.
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Yeah, but of course, this still means Liu Kang should scale to Shang Tsung, due to beating him multiple times.
 
Yeah, but of course, this still means Liu Kang should scale to Shang Tsung, due to beating him multiple times.

I can agree on that. Tsung is kind of a jobber.
 
Well, I would still like to get input from more people than you two, and do not appreciate any further off-topic thread derailment. It forces me to spend considerable time removing posts.
 
I guess Liu Kang, at least, could scale to Tsung.

When I said outlier earlier, though, I was referring more to the series as a whole. Most of the characters in the cast aren't city level, most are more like, wall to city block level last I checked.
 
Hmm, and yet, despite being anywhere from wall to planet level, the MK characters constantly fight each other due to game mechanics. This makes them difficult to gauge accurately.
 
Exactly. Especially with 9 and X where the heroes took turns in each chapter beating the opposition.
 
Perhaps we should strictly go by individual feats to gauge them then?
 
But some of the cast like Sonya and Jax constantly fight people on Shang Tsung's level and have even beaten people above his level.
 
yea Mortal Kombat characters beat whoever just because of what happens in a story like how Sub Zero defeated Scorpion in MK 9 then gets defeated by scorpion in MK 10
 
For example, it's a main line of the plot of MKX that Johnny beats Shinnok, someone far above Shang Tsung.
 
Again, I don't know. If Johnny is generally shown to have a far lower power level than Shinnok, it can probably be explained as Plot Induced Stupidity.
 
Also, to say that it should be an outlier because they don't have any feats to back it up is the same thing as saying that Goku isn't solar system level because he's never actually destroyed a solar system. They all fought people on those scales multiple times therefore they scale.
 
Darkness552 said:
yea Mortal Kombat characters beat whoever just because of what happens in a story like how Sub Zero defeated Scorpion in MK 9 then gets defeated by scorpion in MK 10
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Sub Zero and Scorpion are generally referred as equals. Plus, Sub Zero didn't want to fight Scorpion in MKX.
 
Antvasima said:
Again, I don't know. If Johnny is generally shown to have a far lower power level than Shinnok, it can probably be explained as Plot Induced Stupidity.
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Actually, Johnny's powers have been hinted at to be one of the most powerful abilities in the MK universe.
 
Hmm, the difference is that Dragon Ball actually explicitly heavily relies on power levels, not Plot Induced Stupidity or Game Mechanics. According to your logic, all of the MK characters should scale to planet level, despite most of them being displayed as much lower in scale. Still, I am uncertain regarding this issue.
 
Antvasima said:
Hmm, the difference is that Dragon Ball actually explicitly heavily relies on power levels. According to your logic, all of the MK characters should scale to planet level, despite most of them bejng displayed as much lower in scale.
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That's not how it is at all. It's impossible to write it off as an outlier when people like Sonya and Kitana fight people on Shang Tsung's level (As well as Shang Tsung) constantly. That's the point I'm trying to move forward.
 
I am still uncertain. You can invite the other administrators and moderators to this thread to see what they think regarding the issue?
 
Antvasima said:
not Plot Induced Stupidity or Game Mechanics.
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Except none of it is involving game mechanics, and it isn't plot induced stupidity because it wouldn't have been the first time those characters have fought on that level.
 
Again, we are going around in circles. I am not allowing such a massive change without seeing input from several more staff members. You are free to invite them to contribute, but until then nothing will happen.
 
Antvasima said:
Again, we are going around in circles. I am not allowing such a massive change without hesaing input from several more staff members. You are free to invite them to contribute, but until then nothing will happen.
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How do I invite them?
 
Via this page. However, SeiryuShin, Polar-kun, and Rocks75 are almost inactive, and DarkLK should only be disturbed for specific matters that relate to his expertise.
 
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