Mister Mxyzptlk (CW) Tier Upgrade

[Antvasima]

I checked and didn't see anything tier 2, that's why I asked him and I think it wouldn't make sense to give a character tier 2 despite we know that character has such potential to have such tier but we need the proof to be solid to be on profile.

Yes. Agreed.

Qawsed said it ain't a higher transcendent dimention like the comics.

@Qawsedf234

What do you think about my reasoning in earlier posts here about this issue?

This is just time manipulation.

Thank you for helping out.

 

[Vasco]

Thank you for helping out.

Anytime.

 

[ByArrow]

• higher plane of existence
• The Fifth Dimension has authorities and a court system that does not appreciate its citizens interfering in the lives of lower dimensional beings.
• mxy got punished for what he did
• The Fifth Dimension remained unaffected by the Anti-Monitor Crisis
• she sees the supergirl universe like a netflix series
• mxy plays the other timelines like a movie.
• mxy deletes timeline of lana being nasty

 

[ByArrow]

This is just time manipulation.

wouldn't it give low 2c to replace the newly formed timeline with the original timeline

 

[Antvasima]

• higher plane of existence
• The Fifth Dimension has authorities and a court system that does not appreciate its citizens interfering in the lives of lower dimensional beings.
• mxy got punished for what he did
• The Fifth Dimension remained unaffected by the Anti-Monitor Crisis
• she sees the supergirl universe like a netflix series
• mxy plays the other timelines like a movie.
• mxy deletes timeline of lana being nasty

Well, if that is accurate, Low 1-C might be warranted, but it depends on what Qawsedf234 thinks.

 

[Vasco]

wouldn't it give low 2c to replace the newly formed timeline with the original timeline

Simply showing someone past moments in their life and taking them to it to alter it and make it original is just time manipulation or time travel not Low 2-C as his just poofing her there to do the things she wants to correct.

 

[Antvasima]

That is correct, yes, but destroying a timeline is a legitimate Low 2-C feat, and transcending it to the point of viewing it as fiction is Low 1-C as far as I am aware.

 

[Vasco]

The first 2 scans claiming Mister myxptlk to Low-1C are both from DC fandom and arrowverse, i'm gonna sit this one out and let Qwased handle it. The 5th dimension seems kinda legit according to those fandom but it's not scans from the show so I can't say much but i neutral leaning towards disagree.

 

[Antvasima]

Simply showing someone past moments in their life and taking them to it to alter it and make it original is just time manipulation or time travel not Low 2-C as his just poofing her there to do the things she wants to correct.

That is correct, yes, but destroying a timeline is a legitimate Low 2-C feat, and transcending it to the point of viewing it as fiction is Low 1-C as far as I am aware.

The first 2 scans claiming Mister myxptlk to Low-1C are both from DC fandom and arrowverse, i'm gonna sit this one out and let Qwased handle it. The 5th dimension seems kinda legit according to those fandom but it's not scans from the show so I can't say much but i neutral leaning towards disagree.

@Qawsedf234 @KingPin0422 @Elizhaa @Pain_to12

We need some input help here.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Which scans are been contested?

 

[Vasco]

Timelines he created:

• timeline of when supergirl revealed her identity
• kara tells lena that she is supergirl
• the timeline when Kara died
• timeline of lena being poorly
• the timeline in which lena and monel died.

here he tells

• higher plane of existence
• The Fifth Dimension has authorities and a court system that does not appreciate its citizens interfering in the lives of lower dimensional beings.
• mxy got punished for what he did
• The Fifth Dimension remained unaffected by the Anti-Monitor Crisis
• she sees the supergirl universe like a netflix series
• mxy plays the other timelines like a movie.
• mxy deletes timeline of lana being nasty

Which scans are been contested?

 

[PrinceofPein]

Sees the universe as a netflix series is probably low 2-C.
the timeline stuffs too are low 2-C.
deleting a timeline is low 2-C.
Now the question is, does he sees the timeline as a movie or simply plays the things going on the in timeline like a movie

 

[Antvasima]

Really? I thought that literally perceiving a Low 2-C timeline as fiction would qualify him for tier Low 1-C.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Really? I thought that literally perceiving a Low 2-C timeline as fiction would qualify him for tier Low 1-C.

The way I am seeing the scan
Is that he is playing a past event that happened in an alternate timeline, that’s not low 1-C.
Viewing the entire timeline will be low 1-C tho
So you are correct but the proof is shaky at best

 

[Antvasima]

Okay then. He comes from a transcendent qualitatively superior reality in combination with this feat though.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Then low 1-C is fine
If he transcends the timeline

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you. That is probably fine to apply then, but somebodyq needs to properly organise all of the best available evidence for this.

 

[Qawsedf234]

transcending it to the point of viewing it as fiction is Low 1-C as far as I am aware.

Myx doesn't view the multiverse as fictional or at least evidence to suggest he does hasn't been provided. Just viewing the universe through television screens or making new timelines isn't the same as the MCU's Low 1-C and no different from Pre-Crisis' Myx's current 2-A rating.

 

[Eficiente]

Don't watch the verse, but one thing people always ignore that is that viewing events like that can simply be a fancy form of clairvoyance. Even when one can use their powers to target and affect what's seen.

Self-contained derailment, but @Qawsedf234 you may be interested in this thread, particularly the comments I made there.

 

[Vasco]

making new timelines

From the few scans I checked those timelines are times from the past seems more like time manipulation and time travel(since he poof supergirl to those past events to correct or alter them) I don't think he created them cause I didn't see where or where it was stated.

 

[PrinceofPein]

I think the proof of low 1-C, is that he transcends them, not cause he destroyed or created them, as that will low 2-C.

 

[Vasco]

The Low 1-C shit is just weird so I will let you guys handle it.

 

[Qawsedf234]

think the proof of low 1-C, is that he transcends them,

There's no indication he transcends the multiverse in such a fashion that he warrants a Low 1-C rating. Just being 5th Dimensional and having clairvoyance isn't the same as R>F or complete Dimensional superiority.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay, so he should just get "At least Low 2-C" statistics then?

 

[Antvasima]

There's no indication he transcends the multiverse in such a fashion that he warrants a Low 1-C rating. Just being 5th Dimensional and having clairvoyance isn't the same as R>F or complete Dimensional superiority.

Okay, so he should just get "At least Low 2-C" statistics then?

@Qawsedf234 @Pain_to12 @Eficiente @GFArrow

It seems like both of the following pages need to have their statistics changed:

Mister Mxyzptlk (CW)

Mister Mxyzptlk, or simply Mxy, is an incredibly powerful Imp from the Fifth Dimension. He came to National City to proclaim his love for Supergirl/Kara Danvers. Kara didn't think Mxyzptlk was a threat at first, but then he started to endanger lives with his mystical powers in an attempt to...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Nyxlygsptlnz (CW)

Nyxlygsptlnz, also known as Nyxly, is a Fifth-Dimensional imp who was trapped in the Phantom Zone after her imprisonment by her tyrannical father, King Brpxz. Nyxly met Kara Danvers and they became friends until Nyxly betrayed her. Upon exiting the Phantom Zone, Nyxly began searching for the...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Also, GFArrow, you upgraded the second page above to 2-A despite knowing what was decided in this thread.

 

[Antvasima]

See here for evidence:

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Nyxlygsptlnz_(CW)?type=revision&diff=7774665&oldid=7523265

 

[PrinceofPein]

@Qawsedf234 @Pain_to12 @Eficiente @GFArrow

It seems like both of the following pages need to have their statistics changed:

Mister Mxyzptlk (CW)

Mister Mxyzptlk, or simply Mxy, is an incredibly powerful Imp from the Fifth Dimension. He came to National City to proclaim his love for Supergirl/Kara Danvers. Kara didn't think Mxyzptlk was a threat at first, but then he started to endanger lives with his mystical powers in an attempt to...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Nyxlygsptlnz (CW)

Nyxlygsptlnz, also known as Nyxly, is a Fifth-Dimensional imp who was trapped in the Phantom Zone after her imprisonment by her tyrannical father, King Brpxz. Nyxly met Kara Danvers and they became friends until Nyxly betrayed her. Upon exiting the Phantom Zone, Nyxly began searching for the...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Also, GFArrow, you upgraded the second page above to 2-A despite knowing what was decided in this thread.

Do you want me to help change it

 

[Antvasima]

That would be very appreciated, yes. Thank you for helping out.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Okay I will do that in an hour

 

[PrinceofPein]

The pages have been changed to "At least low 2-C" already by someone else

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thanks anyway.

Is there anything left to do here or should we close this thread now?

 

[PrinceofPein]

I do not think so

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I will close this thread then.

Thank you to everybody who helped out here.

Also, if you have anything to add, Qawsedf234, please mention it here afterwards.