Minor Julius CRT (Mindhax)

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Simply put, Julius should have mind manipulation as stated by this villager starting at 2:45:49

Or, in text from: A terrifying man, that Prince Julius is... Just a single glance into those eyes of his and you're gone... You lose yourself. So many of my friends and others my age've all left for Belhalla to serve him. I've heard nothing from any of 'em since...

 

[TheGatememer]

Unless that is like really good Social Influencing, yea Mind Manip seems fine. Wouldn't this also grant Mind Manip resistance to some of the FE4 cast?

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

I wouldn't go for a resistance given you're literally told this right before he fights you for the first time, a lot less of a stretch to say the party just doesn't look him in the eye

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

It could be passive social influencing in the form of him just be extremely terrifying.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

idk about that, given the emphasis on his eyes being what draws people in on both translations.

 

[It_is_i_wyatt]

yeah looks like mind manip

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

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[Bobsican]

Sounds too vague for mind manip TBH, there's also the matter of this being mostly speculation given this is stated from a random villager, so I disagree.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Villages in FE4 are used for lore, unless they're being used for an event

 

[Bobsican]

Uh... we have Statements standards for a reason, not anything said whatsoever is taken as a legitimately reliable thing for our purposes, plus it's too vague to claim mind hax, again.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

You mean the villages that consistently get used for exposition dumps, they're not "legitimately reliable"?

Also, please tell me how "Just a single glance into those eyes of his and you're gone... You lose yourself." is a vague statement

 

[Bobsican]

That really sounds like a case of multiple wrongs not making a right.
It's vague as the last part can mean multiple things, and mindhax is just one of them, which is quite assumptious to take as given how it's not elaborated on what sense someone being "gone" or "lost" it's meant to be.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Please, do tell me these "alternate meanings"

 

[Bobsican]

It can relate to simply being (sent to being) killed (note how the villager mentions right before that he's terryfing, which would imply it relates to that), which would thus be a less assumptious take on the meaning compared to him having semi-passive mindhax.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

How does being sent off to get killed have anything to do with the context of what that village tells you? She's talking about people worshipping him, not being executed

 

[Bobsican]

How does being sent off to get killed have anything to do with the context of what that village tells you? She's talking about people worshipping him, not being executed

That it's simply done out of fear or the like, it's too vague to really conclude anything in particular, especially hax stuff as that requires even more assumptions.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Oh yeah, btw here's the other translation, saying pretty much the exact same thing almost word for word

 

[Bobsican]

Hmmm... it still looks too vague to conclude mind hax, social influencing seems more debatable TBH.

 

[Axxtentacle]

How in the Hell is this too vague? He's a famous and widely feared emperor, and you are hearing about a supernatural phenomenon from someone who knows about him (since he's a famous emperor), warning you not to look into his eyes because anyone that does, serves him. It doesn't directly say "he controls your mind" but it's extremely obvious that's what's happening.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

It'sa me, Bumpio, uh... meow?

 

[Bobsican]

I'd be with a compromise with the mindhax being added with a "possibly".

 

[Axxtentacle]

I'm in full support of just listing it as mindhax.

Funny how people insist on SI not being a power but when something clearly supernatural happens that's somewhat similar to SI, they just call it SI.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

We're gonna need a bigger bump

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

So they went back home and got a bigger bump, the biggest bump that ever sailed

 

[Bobsican]

So they went back home and got a bigger bump, the biggest bump that ever sailed

And that's how Lucina was made : V

Anyways, I'd rather see what others think, my stance remains the same.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

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[JustSomeWeirdo]

Two Bumps, bumping threads

 

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[Armorchompy]

make it likely mindhax to be safe but i think this being SI is more unlikely than it being mindhax

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

A response? On my FE4 thread?

It's more likely than you think

 

[deonment]

i agree with this being full-on mindhax

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

This really bumps my threads

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Lump

 

[Bobsican]

Do we really need more input? This is a simple change and it appears the stance is clear.
If anything use your staff powers to ping others to see if their stance has changed.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Yeah ok