Minor HxH speed changes

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

The heavens arena speed key for Gon and Killua should not be supersonic+ and it's justification (Moving as a blur) should be removed. Instead the should just scale to the previous key's subsonic rating.

 

[Sus]

Disagree FRA

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Disagree FRA

Why?

 

[Sus]

Why?

Just joking, the crt is fine

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Cool glad this wont be controversial

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

So is this cool to apply?

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

bump

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

This seems uncontroversial to apply.

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

This seems uncontroversial to apply.

Thank you. This can be closed now

 

[Kachon123]

From Charmander, the person who made the speed changes for HxH. He can't say it himself, as he was banned recently.

"Read the verse page before making CRTs. Gon was not Supersonic+ for moving as a blur, rather, he downscaled from his own Yorkshin feat."

 

[Antvasima]

From Charmander, the person who made the speed changes for HxH. He can't say it himself, as he was banned recently.

"Read the verse page before making CRTs. Gon was not Supersonic+ for moving as a blur, rather, he downscaled from his own Yorkshin feat."

Okay. The old speed levels should preferably be restored then. However, it needs to be much better clarified why they are there in the first place in the affected character profile pages.

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

From Charmander, the person who made the speed changes for HxH. He can't say it himself, as he was banned recently.

"Read the verse page before making CRTs. Gon was not Supersonic+ for moving as a blur, rather, he downscaled from his own Yorkshin feat."

This was from heavens arena Gon IE almost 2 arcs ago. He should not downscale. Also Moving as a blur was Killua's reason for Supersonic +

 

[Antvasima]

This was from heavens arena Gon IE almost 2 arcs ago. He should not downscale. Also Moving as a blur was Killua's reason for Supersonic +

@Kachon123

What do you think?

 

[Kachon123]

Charmander: "Yes he should. Yorkshin is one arc after Heavens Arena. Gon was considered a low level pro Hunter at the time. His speed feat was casual, and he implied even a random trained hunter would be able to see his movements. Beginner Hunters should be slower than Yorkshin Gon, but not to an absurd extent, thus, the downscaling. It was agreed upon before.

I can make new justifications, but I can't apply them since I'm banned,

so: Gon: Supersonic+ (Although he is a beginner as a hunter, shouldn't be significantly slower than other low level professionals, thus downscaling from his own feat performed while he was still a low level Hunter)

Killua: Supersonic+ (Faster than Gon)"

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Charmander: "Yes he should. Yorkshin is one arc after Heavens Arena. Gon was considered a low level pro Hunter at the time. His speed feat was casual, and he implied even a random trained hunter would be able to see his movements. Beginner Hunters should be slower than Yorkshin Gon, but not to an absurd extent, thus, the downscaling. It was agreed upon before.

I can make new justifications, but I can't apply them since I'm banned,

so: Gon: Supersonic+ (Although he is a beginner as a hunter, shouldn't be significantly slower than other low level professionals, thus downscaling from his own feat performed while he was still a low level Hunter)

Killua: Supersonic+ (Faster than Gon)"

Absolutely not. The feat was at the beginning of greed island, were talking about heaven's arena which is Hevens arena< Yorkshin<Greed Island which is more than 50 Chapter difference. Low level hunters consider reacting to bullets impressive so Subsonic range Low tier hunters. Gon also had a small training ark just prior to the events of greed island. And before he says there comparable to the phantom troupe, No, No they are not at least in speed. Even the low tiers of the troupe are considered too dangerous for them. Also the fact that Killua called him a pro is likely hyperbole as literally a few panels later he admits that if they actually were they would stand no chance.

 

[Kachon123]

Absolutely not. The feat was at the beginning of greed island, were talking about heaven's arena which is Hevens arena< Yorkshin<Greed Island which is more than 50 Chapter difference. Low level hunters consider reacting to bullets impressive so Subsonic range Low tier hunters. Gon also had a small training ark just prior to the events of greed island. And before he says there comparable to the phantom troupe, No, No they are not at least in speed. Even the low tiers of the troupe are considered too dangerous for them. Also the fact that Killua called him a pro is likely hyperbole as literally a few panels later he admits that if they actually were they would stand no chance.

Charmander: ""You are gravely misunderstanding the feat. Beginning of Greed Island and Yorkshin Gon have the exact same stats when it comes to physicals, as the training Gon and Killua did was to gather Hatsu, Jajanken and Electricity, they did no such thing as a physical training.

Yorkshin Gon = Mach 5 (Upscaling from his casual feat)
Heavens Arena Gon = Mach 2.5 (Downscaling from his feat as pro hunters shouldn't be outwardly below Gon, who is a fodder to most before his training)

They consider Kurapika reacting to "multiple gunshots at once from multiple angles with a chain" impressive, not just reacting to one gun, which are transonic to supersonic in the first place. The feat can be calculated to be around the Hypersonic range too, so them considering it impressive shouldn't justify your immense downplay.

The logic is sound, and was agreed upon by Staff and supporters alike. I do not need to convince you in particular. The changes shall be reverted."

Okay. The old speed levels should preferably be restored then. However, it needs to be much better clarified why they are there in the first place in the affected character profile pages.

Cn you revert the changes? They were unsupported by a relevant amount of staff or supporters.

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Very well, I have reverted the changes

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you very much for helping out. Is there anything left to do here, or should we close this thread then?

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Close it, He's made his point and I agree.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I will do so. Thank you to everybody who helped out here.