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Hashirama does too, he's an Edo Tensei-I'm not talking about Madara. I was talking about Hashirama.
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Hashirama does too, he's an Edo Tensei-I'm not talking about Madara. I was talking about Hashirama.
You can see from Hashirama's profile that he has infinite staminaHashirama does too, he's an Edo Tensei-
The argument was that it was a waste of Chakra-You can see from Hashirama's profile that he has infinite stamina
?????The argument was that it was a waste of Chakra-
No like madara was in the area where the pollen units were. So were even at his back.Not when the guy has range in the dozens of kilometers at least. He can use the pollen while well out of range.
Requiring canon proof for something isn't being overly strict, it's just a basic logical requirement.
Read your own allies' argument lolIf Hashirama stays out of the technique, why should Madara stay in the technique's area of effect? Hashirama's departure from the battlefield makes using this technique a waste of chakra.
Dude, I think you didn't understand what I wrote. I will give both you and the Uchiha Hunter a summary. Madara used this technique in the Kage War. We have seen these panels in the manga and we know that this technique is one that affects the battlefield. We can conclude that this technique belongs to Hashirama in Madara, that is, Hashirama has used this technique against Madara before. The scenario I will talk about now will be the old Madara-Hashirama fight. I will not use edo madara and hashirama.Read your own allies' argument lol
Compelling argument, but there's no concrete proof of thisDude, I think you didn't understand what I wrote. I will give both you and the Uchiha Hunter a summary. Madara used this technique in the Kage War. We have seen these panels in the manga and we know that this technique is one that affects the battlefield. We can conclude that this technique belongs to Hashirama in Madara, that is, Hashirama has used this technique against Madara before. The scenario I will talk about now will be the old Madara-Hashirama fight. I will not use edo madara and hashirama.
The situation will happen like this: Hashirama will use this technique against Madara. The battlefield will be filled with flower pollen. If Hashirama leaves the battlefield after using this technique, Madara will follow him. Thus, Madara will leave the battlefield. Therefore, using this technique would be a waste of chakra... Since Hashirama will not do such a thing, we can say that Hashirama will continue to fight within the scope of the technique.
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This is an area effect attack, meaning it literally changes the battlefield. We saw in the manga how this attack happened in Madara vs Kage.I also disagree with this on the basis of it not being canon.
(And Hashirama could have just not targeted himself with the attack anyway)
Most of what I said is the interpretation of Madara vs Kage and the evidence for my inferences is the manga. Wood Style: We can see how an attack like Deep Forest Flower works by looking at it in the manga. What I wrote in senrayo is something that anyone who knows the shinobi universe well can interpret.Compelling argument, but there's no concrete proof of this
Ha?Compelling argument, but there's no concrete proof of this
If there is no contradiction then Anime can be used.I also disagree with this on the basis of it not being canon.
(And Hashirama could have just not targeted himself with the attack anyway)
I said that for most Animes and explicitly mentioned added scenes would not count. And the fact that rule doesn't apply to Naruto as that anime is fully not canonIf there is no contradiction then Anime can be used.
Technique affects the whole environment, we saw this in Madara vs 5 kage.
No Lol,You can't deny that the 368th episode of the anime canon, there's no contradiction.I said that for most Animes and explicitly mentioned added scenes would not count. And the fact that rule doesn't apply to Naruto as that anime is fully not canon
Yea there is, there's a scene that wasn't in the Original~No Lol,You can't deny that the 368th episode of the anime canon, there's no contradiction.
And please read the canon page of the WikiI said that for most Animes and explicitly mentioned added scenes would not count. And the fact that rule doesn't apply to Naruto as that anime is fully not canon
Any changes based on tertiary canon will only be accepted if they are not contradicted by any instances of another canon, with regards to either the character power-scale, or logical inconsistencies (and plot holes)
This does not change the story in any way lol on the contrary it explains it even moreYea there is, there's a scene that wasn't in the Original~
Doesn't matter, it's a scene not in the source material. That in of itself is a contradiction for changing the source material in any way beyond animating itThis does not change the story in any way lol on the contrary it explains it even more
No,On the contrary, this scene connects the other scenesDoesn't matter, it's a scene not in the source material. That in of itself is a contradiction for changing the source material in any way beyond animating it
It might "Connect" other scenes, but not in the manga, it connects them in the anime lolNo,On the contrary, this scene connects the other scenes
No. Not for anime-original content.If there is no contradiction then Anime can be used.
Not necessarily the part Hashirama was standing in.Technique affects the whole environment, we saw this in Madara vs 5 kage.
In an area-effect attack, the technique has no effect where Hashirama is, right? hahahahhaNo. Not for anime-original content.
Not necessarily the part Hashirama was standing in.
You can't resort to sarcasm when you lack actual conclusive evidence.In an area-effect attack, the technique has no effect where Hashirama is, right? hahahahha
One of the funniest jokes I've ever heard...
Patates is right. Hashirama has this ability.Madara's statement that this technique is Hashirama's proves that the technique was used by Hashirama before
That's not what Madara is saying. He said "The Particle Style may have dispersed the pollen", meaning that it blew it away. It's no longer a factor at that point.Patates is right. Hashirama has this ability.
As for resistance, using this technique creates a lot of pollen and pollen spreads around. So Hashirama will be affected by the pollen. If it is not affected, there is resistance. I agree with CRT and leave these panels alone. Panel 3 is the most important: Onoki scans the air with the Giant Partikul jutsu, yet Madara says "the pollen is just dispersing." So we can say that it covers all sides.
The argument that Damage said was a ridiculous thing. If we take into consideration what he said, we cannot give a scale to any area effect attack.That's not what Madara is saying. He said "The Particle Style may have dispersed the pollen", meaning that it blew it away. It's no longer a factor at that point.
It's referring to the roots and trees covering everything, not the pollen.My friends, forget everything, it is already said in the databooks that this jutsu covers every part of the battlefield.
@Mamaroza add this to the title dude, let's see if anyone disagrees now hahahahhaha
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The purpose of the wiki is to give people the most accurate information. I don't think it would be right to reject it after all this evidence.I disagree
Also, blue names like you and me can't ping
No, "the forest of many blossoms covers everywhere."It's referring to the roots and trees covering everything, not the pollen.
It says that when the lotus flowers bloom, they cover the entire enemy line. There is no misinterpretation. When the lotus flower blooms, it releases pollen. When he says it covers everything, it is clear that he means pollen. If there were lotus flowers everywhere, there would be no need for the lotus flower to bloom.It's referring to the roots and trees covering everything, not the pollen.
It's not a rule it just doesn't ping lolI didn't know the rule you mentioned, I will correct it.
can i ping you?It's not a rule it just doesn't ping lol
My friend says that if you interpret the title at the top left correctly, the lotus covers everything when opened. The lotus flower incident here is clearly a reference to pollen.Guys, seriously? Come on now. The Databook explicitly mentions the "roots" and "trees", not the pollens or flowers. We can also see that with our own eyes. The trees and roots are indeed everywhere, but the flowers are not.
My friend says if you turn the title on the top left, the lotus covers everywhere when it opens. The lotus blooming incident here is clearly a reference to pollen.