Minor Genis Vell addition

[Setsuna_tenma]

Resistance to space-time manipulation
tanks a blast that messes space-time

Unconvential resistance to power absorbtion
you have to drain eternity to drain him

Spatial manipulation
can trap people between dimensions

nigh omniscient
his cosmic awareness can see the future
senses beings who were shielded from heimdall
senes things even in the microverse
sees a people history

can share his comsic awarness and overload people mind don`t know what power it is

also he should have insanity as a weakness. His cosmic awareness can be too much for him and this can drive him insane. Its why he has a mad god.

possible ap upgrade
He has access to infnite power.

 

[Antvasima]

@Zensum @C2_of_Omegon @Eficiente @Qawsedf234 @SuperAPM @Firestorm808 @EmperorRorepme @LuciferDC099 @Newendigo @Ehnkr2beboh @Tllmbrg @Elizio33 @Deagonx

What do you think about this?

 

[Ehnkr2beboh]

The hax seem fine but probably not the AP since we scale him off of Sentry iirc.

 

[Newendigo]

The additions are fine I think.

 

[Elizio33]

The hax are fine.

 

[Eficiente]

Resistance to space-time manipulation
tanks a blast that messes space-time

Well, it woud have affected space and time, not him.

Unconvential resistance to power absorbtion
you have to drain eternity to drain him

Then he didn't resist it, the mechanic of the drain didn't allow Magus to have that properly. We can write that feat in his Empowerment and the same should happen without an Absorbtion good enough.

Spatial manipulation
can trap people between dimensions

Technically due to making a "spatial aperture", dimensional travel too.

nigh omniscient
his cosmic awareness can see the future
senses beings who were shielded from heimdall
senes things even in the microverse
sees a people history

Nigh omniscient has no reason to be there.
Seeing the future is precognition.
Those links don't prove what you say.
Ok.
Info Analysis can go there.

can share his comsic awarness and overload people mind don`t know what power it is

Power Bestowal.

also he should have insanity as a weakness. His cosmic awareness can be too much for him and this can drive him insane. Its why he has a mad god.

Sure.

possible ap upgrade
He has access to infnite power.

There a some things going on here. We don't know in what way he could have controlled that space and energy, but that he at least has the range to do so is as in all of it. It also misses context as it could have been an amp.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Well, it woud have affected space and time, not him.

I mean he tanked the blast without damage. That should qualify as resistance

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

There a some things going on here. We don't know in what way he could have controlled that space and energy, but that he at least has the range to do so is as in all of it. It also misses context as it could have been an amp.

it is done via the nega bands his standard equpiment.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Multi languism

sending energy to different universe

 

[Eficiente]

I mean he tanked the blast without damage. That should qualify as resistance

Well, space and time are pretty wide things, some thing that may mess time and space at 3km away and having started at 0km may not mess them at 2km, it's weird and with no standards, it can very well affect only the parts said to be affected while leaving 99% of them fine.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Well, space and time are pretty wide things, some thing that may mess time and space at 3km away and having started at 0km may not mess them at 2km, it's weird and with no standards, it can very well affect only the parts said to be affected while leaving 99% of them fine.

i mean it was said to have a range of lightyears so genis was not out of range

 

[Eficiente]

Multi languism

sending energy to different universe

Yes.

Dimensional Travel.

i mean it was said to have a range of lightyears so genis was not out of range

We don't know if it was omnidirectional messing with time and space that works consistently in all that range or the messes being at random points up to that much range.

 

[Antvasima]

Eficiente makes sense to me. What he has accepted can be applied, but not what he has rejected.

Thank you to everybody who are helping out.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

also shouldn`t genis have keys to seperate his beginng,photon and mad god selfs

 

[Antvasima]

That seems like a good suggestion, yes.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

so can the changes be added

 

[Antvasima]

What Eficiente has accepted can be added, but you need to make arguments for Genis' statistics in his other keys before you can apply them.

 

[IDrey]

The hax seem fine but probably not the AP since we scale him off of Sentry iirc.

Actually we should not scale him from Sentry, in their fight both were holding back, but we don't know how much. His full power in Photon form should scale from destroying Eternity.

 

[Antvasima]

Shouldn't we keep his mad god state separate from his regular/average statistics? He never remotely demonstrated such power during Fabian Niceza's Thunderbolts run as far as I recall.

 

[IDrey]

Shouldn't we keep his mad god state separate from his regular/average statistics? He never remotely demonstrated such power during Fabian Niceza's Thunderbolts run as far as I recall.

He should have 3 keys; base, mad god and Photon, he was going to destroy the universe if unable to control his power Imgur: The magic of the Internet.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thanks. That was a potential future though, not his standard power level.

 

[IDrey]

Okay. Thanks. That was a potential future though, not his standard power level.

That was not only a potential future, he looked into every tomorrow with his cosmic awareness. He needs to always be in holding back and controling his power.
It was stated that he was going to destroy the universe many times: Imgur: The magic of the Internet, Imgur: The magic of the Internet, Imgur: The magic of the Internet. His death is built around the fact that the only way for him to not destroy the universe is dying.
Also, he became Photon because Zemo put matters of de Big Bang inside him when he was dying: Imgur: The magic of the Internet. So, its not his base form.
Thunderbolts #100 and other issues form New Thunderbolts are about the fact that he was a threat to the universe.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay, so would "4-B while holding back (Matched The Sentry). Low 2-C when not holding back (Destroyed the universe in every possible viewed future)" be appropriate?

 

[IDrey]

Okay, so would "4-B while holding back (Matched The Sentry). Low 2-C when not holding back (Destroyed the universe in every possible viewed future)" be appropriate?

I think a variable tier is fine. But he was going to destroy Eternity, which is 2-A.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, it doesn't really make sense that destroying a universe would be 2-A, but that is typical for Marvel.

What do the rest of you think?

 

[IDrey]

So, the changes can be applied?

 

[Antvasima]

Well, somebody knowledgeable needs to apply the changes.