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so the Memeovore has Conceptual Manipulation for eating ideas and concepts but it is not specified.
In any case, the creature ate Mictlan, which is a world outside the universe where its inhabitants freed themselves from the limits of space and time/Time Vortex, becoming a concept to escape from The War in Heaven/Classic The Last Time War, achieving Acasuality at a level above the Time Lords, probably up to Type 5 (The Time Lords did not do it because they feared that any drastic action would activate the last contact where the War in Heaven would "start" and also they considered cowardice)
Nearly all is from The Tanking of Planet 5
besides being considered as fiction and all created through block-transfer engines and computational matrices↓
Also having a possibly infinite size↓
The memeovore should have Resistance to anything the Fendahl can do since it is their predator.
-The Left-handed Hummingbird
The memeovore negate Mictlan's Acasuality by attacking the Mini-Universe in the past and consumed it BioData.↓
Also The Memeovore should be more than capable of devouring fictional beings such as the Elder things created by the Celesties and they consider Mictlan as something much more complex, when I say fiction I mean in the most literal sense of the word since they built a weapon capable of turning you into a fictional story so the Memeovore should have a manipulation of the plot based on eating the fiction itself.
in summary the Memeovore obtains a Tier 3-A probably high 3-A or Low 2-C, since although Mictlan has an infinite size the doctor calls it a mini universe compared to N-Space.
The Meme's conceptual manipulation becomes type 1, The Memeovore should have a Large Size at least type 9 to be able to occupy a large part of the universe and a mini universe, gains Acasuality Negation type 4 or 5, all power from manipulate Biodata, Plot absorption, resistance to mind manipulation, soul manipulation, matter and life absorption
the Time Lords scaled to Celesties' conceptual manipulation type 1 via block-transfer engines and computational matrices, which itself was a process similar to Ultimate Sanction.
In any case, the creature ate Mictlan, which is a world outside the universe where its inhabitants freed themselves from the limits of space and time/Time Vortex, becoming a concept to escape from The War in Heaven/Classic The Last Time War, achieving Acasuality at a level above the Time Lords, probably up to Type 5 (The Time Lords did not do it because they feared that any drastic action would activate the last contact where the War in Heaven would "start" and also they considered cowardice)
Nearly all is from The Tanking of Planet 5
"There was a place in Hell where skulls were the only ornaments, and the servants had no faces. Even from there he had been cast out. As a shadow of a shade he came to dwell at the edge of a certain abyss, in a tower built out of the bodies of those he had personally marked when he had been allowed in the dark councils of Mictlan. This happened soon after the masters of the Celestial Intervention Agency, the Celestis, had pulled the doors of perception closed behind themselves lest their histories be unravelled in the war with the Time Lords’ future enemy, in the battles they had foreseen. They had put reality behind them like a bad dream and turned themselves into creatures built out of mythemes and the working of nanoscopic machine-demons. They had poisoned the walls of reality itself, until Mictlan had bubbled up into existence on its far side, a cyst of galled space-time cut off from the time winds. It was their glorious world of the dead"
Limited prescience allowed him to block the archons’ attacks as they happened. At least, that was the theory. All these techniques worked. But the Celestis existed outside all the laws, outside normal space time itself. They were the product of hell, a world with its own rules. And even though Mictlan had been destroyed, the archon still wielded that power.
The creature was always three steps ahead of Holsred, spinning through the higher dimensions, turning into impossible things. A body bristling with weapons, moving faster than the speed of thought, attacking from everywhere at once. He was competent enough to defend himself against most of the attacks thrown at him, but at this pace ‘most’ wasn’t nearly enough: blows were getting through, cuts were being made. One attack tore off a limb, another sliced off a tentacle, Pain blinded Holsred and he reeled back, but the attacks kept on coming. His five eyes were ripped out by their stalks, one by one. He felt his spine break, one of his hearts being pierced.
‘Mictlan,’ repeated the Doctor. ‘Home of the Celestis, a rather un pleasant offshoot of my own civilisation. I knew I’d seen a device like that somewhere before. Unearthly materials, fingers of bone; Mictlan was full of that kind of tacky ornamentation. Biomechanical DIY is one of the first signs of a paranoid megalomaniac culture. The natural body being despised and feared is projected externally as other than the self, thereby justifying the abuse of it in others. At least that’s what Adler thought when he wasn’t playing the mouth organ.’
‘What?’ Fitz said.
‘The Doctor is purporting to confuse one of the three founders of Earthly psychology with a fourth-rate musician,’ Compassion ex plained cattily. ‘I suppose it is intended to be amusing, which implies –’
‘Trouble,’ Fitz said moodily.
‘The Celestis left this universe to avoid a war in my people’s own future,’ said the Doctor. ‘They built themselves their own mini-universe, Mictlan, as a new home. Making a fictional species like the Elder Things would be child’s play by comparison. What worries me is why. Why come out of seclusion and start throwing their technology around, interfering in the timelines of a fragile temporal focus like Earth? The Celestis expended a lot of effort putting the universe behind them, and whatever caused them to renew their involvement must be very big.’
‘How big?’ asked Compassion.
The Doctor sucked a finger. ‘Oh, pretty big. For the Celestis, the death of galaxies would be a trivial distraction.’
besides being considered as fiction and all created through block-transfer engines and computational matrices↓
In that part of the grey hours of Mictlan that felt like the time of debate, he attended the Last Parliament. He saw the minute and ceaseless interplay of the squabbles of his fellow Lords Celestial. The Lord of the Red Moon wished to invoke peer-right to suppress the chrono-logical changes proposed by the Duke of Knives and his coterie, but was opposed by the Grey Cardinals and the Chronometricists. Smoked Mirror inclined to Red Moon’s faction but had not yet given a commitment to either side. Vaguely he wondered why not. Had he some obligation to one of the Chronometricist Guild? If so he could not now recall it precisely. That was worrying. Like all the Lords Celestial, Smoked Mirror was linked to the block-transfer engines and computational matrices of which Mictlan was constructed. His memory was not held within his skull. As with all his fellows, his body was not him, but merely a convenient fiction, almost a legality, provided by the engines of Mictlan to ground his interaction with the other Celestis within a shared net of experience modelled on the customs of Old Gallifrey. In many ways the Celestis were creatures built out of habits. Tradition crept through their veins, like dust, but it was the tradition of the victor, of the upstart. They had escaped the war and all its sordid incidents. They had put themselves beyond incident, beyond the merely causal, and beyond the stars. Mictlan hung on the exterior hypersurface of the expanding bubble of real space-time like a bug riding a balloon. He was Mictlan, as were they all. Its purpose was to sustain them; their purpose was to live and move and have their being with in it. If it was threatened, if in some way it was failing, the very existence of the Celestis could be in danger. That was the other part of his feeling. It was fear.
While he had grappled with the problem of his memory, the speeches had been droning on. Absently he noted that the Duke of Knives was in the light now, a shimmer of clashing glints as of moving steel.
Also having a possibly infinite size↓
The third day, his dresser attended him without speech, its hands dead but firm. His robes woven around him, he walked out of the bedchamber and down the forty-seven ivory stairs to the balcony and looked westward towards the sea. The sky was a mass of boiling fire. The sea was a stinking flat and endless plain of mud. The perspective of the pseudo space-time that was Mictlan stretched out to infinity. At his back a faceless servant twittered in dull oblivion, carrying the morning’s first data-sacrifice. All seemed as it should be.
The memeovore should have Resistance to anything the Fendahl can do since it is their predator.
My mission was to acquire the Fendahl: a gestalt super-entity that could be re-engineered into a final assault weapon for the War, not to release this, this other thing of yours.’
‘This Other Thing – how apt. It is other, and outside, and darkness. Can you not guess? The Fendahl evolved to eat all life, every last particle of the living spectrum from infrared heat loss to trace psionic energies. That was why the attempt was made to entomb it – in perhaps a billion years it would have eaten the universe. But nature abhors a vacuum, and no species can retain mastery for ever. How can you judge me when you were prepared to unleash the Fendahl, for no reason other than a war? My reasons are vaster – vaster than you imagine. Vaster than you can imagine! I have freed the Fendahl Predator, the thing that eats the thing that eats death – and only it stands any chance of saving all that is.’
‘Do you know,’ said the Doctor, ‘two years ago the Russians took a survey of
what frightened them the most. It wasn’t winter or economic collapse. It was
vampires. Specifically, vampires that lived on life energy. Psychevores.’
Ace picked up another burrito. Bernice said, ‘Mind eaters.’
The Doctor let his head tilt backwards onto one of the cushions until he was
staring at the ceiling. Bernice looked at him oddly as he said, ‘There are many
and varied creatures which feed on the mind The Mara fed on raw emotion.
The Fendahl sucked souls whole.’
-The Left-handed Hummingbird
Ranging its feelers through the underlying structure of space, it felt something new. At a point relatively near, within thirty thousand light years of its epicentre, the expanding mesh of five-space in which everything three-dimensional was embedded was thicker, juicier, plump, bulging out into metaspace in a huge node of food. The fleshy layer glittered with energy, sparkled with the spicy gleam of exotic material. Reaching it would be an effort, and yet how rewarding the warm, living, meat of the hyperfront looked to its senses. Concentrating, it looked for a weakness, a flaw in the barrier that separated that small but enticing morsel from the rest of organised creation. In present time, it was too well established, but in the past? It flexed the earliest part of its time-sundered hyperbody. A part of the past grew teeth, or things that can best be thought of as teeth.
They snapped, gulping in the information-dense encoded bits of block-transfer-altered space-time. Its first taste of Mictlan. Down to the bone. A House vanished, back there, back then.
Flowing in along the fault line of that disappearance, into the gaps and crannies left in the information flow, it grew into the bonelands like a virus invading a cell.
The damned smiled. The devils, however, were screaming.
...
Inside Mictlan, the damned and the devils ran, but the ground had mouths and the hills had eyes. They vanished and reappeared as the systems battled to preserve them even as their timelines were devoured. As their whole world became detached from the surface of normal space, became a micro-universe of its own, they never even noticed.
The Predator, however, did. Its limbs, its outer extremities, its roots remained in the space-time of its home universe, but its feeding organs were buried deep into the rich flank of this smaller domain that tasted so good. It hurt. The sensation of pain was a new one. It didn’t like it.
The Predator was preparing to vomit up its feed, to abandon its prey, to pull itself back into the larger feeding bowl of the universe, when – metaphorically speaking – thirty-nine TARDISes hit it in the small of the back, and tore it loose from its hold, sending it out after its meal, still attached to it by its many mouths, pulling itself into it. The worm in the apple
Mictlan was – in its origin – a metaphysical bomb shelter. Removed from space-time, it and its occupants (if the two could in any real sense be distinguished except at the most simplistic of levels) were, in theory at least, immune to the time winds, to the possible changes being, or to be, wrought by the war. In theory, even if the Enemy had turned primordial Gallifrey into atoms or defused Omega’s stellar manipulator, or aborted the Time Lords’ history in any way, Mictlan should have remained – a node of information from a previous space time preserved after its collapse by the lack of a causal connection between itself and the war.
The Celestial Intervention Agency, latterly the Celestis, had, how ever, been careful to provide for the possibility that the theories maybe wrong. Beyond Mictlan, projected there in the same way as Mictlan itself, were the recordships. Black-box TARDISes, so called for their basic shape – for in that eventless void there was nothing for a TARDIS’s chameleon circuit to resemble – each continually scanning Mictlan, recording it, checking it.
In theory, even if Mictlan was affected by a space-time event, the black boxes, still further removed from the cause, should show the alteration against the copy of Mictlan’s specifications in their cores. Still, precisely because those mechanisms had themselves to reside in further bubbles of space-time anchored outside the micro-universe of Mictlan, their consultation was not, could not be, routine. Only the imprecision of the attack, if it was an attack, had left even enough memories to make the Celestis wish to consult their records.
Realising this, they were still further alarmed. Perhaps even now they were being further diminished, this time in ways more certain and more sure. Perhaps each following stroke was more absolute in its annihilation. Perhaps already they were a shadow of themselves
‘And lose him? We don’t want a man of pieces: you know as well as we that a reconstruct from deep study is never quite as effective as the original. Besides we have a crisis.’ The cloaked master held up a hand. ‘Don’t ask us to tell you what at this stage. There is a problem. . . with the problem. Agents within Mictlan keep forgetting its existence. We hope you and One will retain your instructions if they are given on board a recordship TARDIS even further outside the space-time envelope; if so you will be empowered to begin an investigation at the highest level. We will elevate you to single figure status. You will act as Number Two.’
Also The Memeovore should be more than capable of devouring fictional beings such as the Elder things created by the Celesties and they consider Mictlan as something much more complex, when I say fiction I mean in the most literal sense of the word since they built a weapon capable of turning you into a fictional story so the Memeovore should have a manipulation of the plot based on eating the fiction itself.
‘A certain artefact the team found down here,’ said Hume. ‘A large globe being the main component. Have you seen it?’
‘Not in person,’ replied Compassion. ‘But I caught it on video. Why, what is it?’
‘A Celesti fictional generator,’ said Hume. ‘A device capable of altering reality in a fundamental way. It may be the only thing around here powerful enough to use against a Celesti; or rather, what you might call an archon, a Celesti agent. Being tangential to this universe al lows them to break all sorts of laws of nature that hold the rest of us back. Here!’le- They spun around a corner to find the artefact that Hume was looking for, surrounded by optical cables and other archaeological equipment.
‘Right,’ said Hume, waggling his fingers and stepping up to the device. ‘Let’s get you off that stand, shall we?’
‘Will it still work after all this time?’ asked Compassion.
‘Twelve million years?’ said Hume. ‘It’s barely past its warranty period. Now watch that door, and leave the proper stuff to me.’
...
The Ubbo-Sathla burst through the floor, a thousand grey, acid spraying tentacles moving in complex waves.
‘Naughty, naughty,’ One sighed as the floor was eaten away beneath him. He had not bothered to fall with it. ‘Do you really think we would allow our fictional generators to create anything without a back door?
Even dead, the Celestis aren’t stupid. Off.’
Flashing and rippling with bad interference patterns, the Ubbo Sathla blinked out of existence, for a moment. Then it was back.
Then it wasn’t. Then it was, and it was angry.
‘Perhaps your understanding of fictional technology isn’t as great as you believe,’ Xenaria panted. ‘Perhaps some things can’t be turned off once they have been allowed to exist.’
‘Then they can be killed,’ One said simply.
He started to glow
____________‘The Celestis left this universe to avoid a war in my people’s own future,’ said the Doctor. ‘They built themselves their own mini-universe, Mictlan, as a new home. Making a fictional species like the Elder Things would be child’s play by comparison. What worries me is why. Why come out of seclusion and start throwing their technology around, interfering in the timelines of a fragile temporal focus like Earth? The Celestis expended a lot of effort putting the universe behind them, and whatever caused them to renew their involvement must be very big.’
‘How big?’ asked Compassion.
The Doctor sucked a finger. ‘Oh, pretty big. For the Celestis, the death of galaxies would be a trivial distraction.’
in summary the Memeovore obtains a Tier 3-A probably high 3-A or Low 2-C, since although Mictlan has an infinite size the doctor calls it a mini universe compared to N-Space.
The Meme's conceptual manipulation becomes type 1, The Memeovore should have a Large Size at least type 9 to be able to occupy a large part of the universe and a mini universe, gains Acasuality Negation type 4 or 5, all power from manipulate Biodata, Plot absorption, resistance to mind manipulation, soul manipulation, matter and life absorption
the Time Lords scaled to Celesties' conceptual manipulation type 1 via block-transfer engines and computational matrices, which itself was a process similar to Ultimate Sanction.
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