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Minecraft discussion thread

I heard staff hate that, I would like to see a comparison between the sound wave effect and the player’s swing radius. Also a calculation for how fast the warden’s sound moves in real time since I imagine it may actually be faster than sound considering it’s a single frame over a hundred or so meters. Especially since Minecraft’s frames per second can be set cartoonishly high.
 
Keeweed said:
I heard staff hate that
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I mean, I already did a calc based on this, and it got accepted, and I can’t really think of a reason why it wouldn’t work, so…
Keeweed said:
Also a calculation for how fast the warden’s sound moves in real time since I imagine it may actually be faster than sound considering it’s a single frame over a hundred or so meters. Especially since Minecraft’s frames per second can be set cartoonishly high.
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Yeah, also, the Warden’s attacks are literally called sonic booms, and because real life sonic booms occur when something is moving faster than sound, it adds more credence to the idea that skulk vibrations are in fact that fast.

However, I’m 90% sure Minecraft does everything in ticks (1/20th of a second), so I don’t think frame rate can affect it’s speed, but it’ll still probably be impressive regardless.
 
I could have sworn his attack is a true hit scan and thus it’s a frame, but I will check and see if it works off ticks instead.
 
Ok, so I've been reading through the Mobestiary in order to flesh out the scaling chain for the verse, and I came across this line from the Creeper entry:

"A creeper explosion will instantly kill any adventurer standing next to it, even if they are wearing full diamond armor, and seriously injure those within three or four blocks."
Note that, while it mentions the Player wearing armor in the case of being right next to the Creeper, it makes no mention of it in the latter half, which implies that an unarmed Player can still survive (although greatly injured by) a Creeper explosion at a 3-4 block distance, which lines up with what we see in-game.

If we were to use the currently accepted power for a Creeper's explosion, this would only result in around 9-A durability, but if the new value of the Creeper's explosion gets accepted (1.582 kilotons), this would, at the bare minimum, have a base Player scale to At Most High 8-C+, which would result in a massive upgrade for nearly everyone in the verse all around.

What are your guys' thoughts?
 
That is a direct measurement of where they can survive versus the ghast one which just says it’ll really hurt.
 
see if you can get CGM accept for it since the only comment is from mr. bambu saying it's not done that way (idk if that means you're going to have to manually measure the speed values)
 
Lilybitdun said:
see if you can get CGM accept for it since the only comment is from mr. bambu saying it's not done that way (idk if that means you're going to have to manually measure the speed value)
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He was saying that skulk can't be sound speed or something like that, I forgot the debate that happened at the time
 
JustANormalLemon said:
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Reading through it, Bambu was against assuming the time it takes for the sensor to detect the sound perfectly correlates with the speed of the soundwaves themselves, which would be a fair point if this was wasn't a visual thing. However, the fact that we visually SEE the vibrations in-game as particles, with them literally being directly STATED to be vibrations several times makes me not understand his argument
 
I think the problem was the gif used in the blog doesn't show the vibration particles, that might've caused confusion
 
I can try and get a better video fr It tomorrow, I was having recording problens at the time so I had to use a random gif from a random video
 
I added this as a disclaimer in my calc, do you think is more clear now that we can see the sound moving?
(Ps: we can actually see the particles that represent sound moving in game so It's not just skulk reacting but instead we see the sound travelling in space)
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JustANormalLemon said:
I added this as a disclaimer in my calc, do you think is more clear now that we can see the sound moving?
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Imo, I think it’d be better to make a new calc blog based off of the speed of the sound particles the Minecraft Wiki gives us (20 m/s) as that’s probably more accurate than us simply estimating its speed
 
IDK3465 said:
Imo, I think it’d be better to make a new calc blog based off of the speed of the sound particles the Minecraft Wiki gives us (20 m/s) as that’s probably more accurate than us simply estimating its speed
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fair enough, I can try doing this later, can you link me the article that states the particle speed?
 
Found It HERE
When a vibration is made within the range of a sculk sensor, a signal travels from the vibration source to the sensor at a speed of one block per game tick (20 blocks per second). When the signal arrives, the sensor is activated for 30 game ticks (1.5 seconds). The sensor cannot detect any other vibrations while activated or while a signal is traveling to it.
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Okay, the calcs are made but for some reason wiki fandom is blokling me from creating blog posts so I lost hours of progress creating that page... cool anyway here is the exel compilation of what I made, still need to edit a lot of stuff trough
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JustANormalLemon/sandbox

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JustANormalLemon said:
Okay, now I'm finished, the problem was Wiki Fandom not letting me make a post with links for other wikis, makes sense
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Skulk time baby

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also yes, I wrote Sculk wrong in the title
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Remember to properly include the links to the pages in question (Because Fandom sucks, it doesn't allow you to link to other wiki-hosting sites, so you'll unfortunately need to link to the old Minecraft Wiki instead). Also, remember to include some of the justifications for these being sound waves, you can copy over the explanation from my blog if you want to.
 
IDK3465 said:
Remember to properly include the links to the pages in question (Because Fandom sucks, it doesn't allow you to link to other wiki-hosting sites, so you'll unfortunately need to link to the old Minecraft Wiki instead). Also, remember to include some of the justifications for these being sound waves, you can copy over the explanation from my blog if you want to.
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I added the links to the new fandom just broken so the wiki will not block them

sure, can you link your blog really quick?
 
JustANormalLemon said:
We really should make profiles for thouse minecraft collabs, like tetris, the batman one, etc
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Tbh, I wouldn’t actually hate making profiles for marketplace stuff directly overseen by Mojang (provided that they’re more than simple skin or texture packs and actually contain some kind of original plot or gameplay)
 
IDK3465 said:
Tbh, I wouldn’t actually hate making profiles for marketplace stuff directly overseen by Mojang (provided that they’re more than simple skin or texture packs and actually contain some kind of original plot or gameplay)
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Like the tetris one, being a entire dungeon crawler gamemode with custom enemies and bosses
 
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