Methuselah vs Rimuru Tempest

[FateAlbane]

So apparently (and from what I heard in the previous thread as well as in a recent one), this is a legit match and could've happened instead of being closed.

Strongest Continental characters - as far as I know - fight each other.

Hello Darkness my Old friend vs Darude Sandtempest

Rules: Speed equalized, 6-A versions, Bloodlusted if it makes it more fair, otherwise in character.


Hello, my name is Methuselah, I'm the master of the darkness, the shadow of the black, shadowy king of the dark, creator of black clothes and the goth concept, I'm black incarnate and that includes the OP's fear of shading in drawing practice, I walk in black, talk in black and next to me man in black and Batman look like a rainbow, using black holes is how I play golf, depression is my surname while I work and whenever someone looks under their beds before going to sleep they find me


Ok, cool.

Who wins and why?

 

[ALRF]

Fate has unleashed the GATES OF HELL! RUN

 

[Schnee_One]

I already made this.

Rimuru can never put him down.

But neither can Meth.

Inconclusive

 

[FateAlbane]

Yes, but even if it turns out Inconclusive in the end it's still a valid thread so there's no need to close it. Besides, someone else might want to make an argument for one or another down the road. Let's wait and see.

Darkness my old friend: 0

Darude Sandtempest: 0

Inconclusive: 1 (Gargoyle One)

 

[ALRF]

What's stopping Meth from accelerating Time to affect Rimul soul? Can Rimul counter '''Gloria Virtutem Tamquam Umbra Sequitur''' in some sort of way? If not i don't see how Rimul wins this

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

@ALRF Demon lords like rimuru have no concept of a life span and rimuru has soul manipulation resistance and he can regenerate his soul, one of his subordinate has a skill called regenerator, basically gives him mid-godly regen.

As for Gloria Virtutem Tamquam Umbra Sequitur, rimuru has a similar skill called Retaliator which replicates all the damage he has taken onto his attackers.

 

[ALRF]

So they are really stuck an infinite loop huh, well no one wins there, they are just gonna keep hacking and bombing each other.

Inconclusive then

 

[ThrudWalkure]

Can't Rimuru just BFR Lud with that [Infinite Prison] thing? I feel like there has to be something that can work on him. He has a bunch of abilities that I'm not sure Meth can resist, mind you, I'm not gonna read through all of them. lol

 

[FateAlbane]

So as it is...

Darkness my old friend: 0

Darimurude Sandtempest: 0

Inconclusive: 2 (Gargoyle One, ALRF)

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

@Thrud Don't know if sealing Meth in an endless time and imaginary space will work, someone who knows about him would have to confirm if it would.

 

[ALRF]

Eh i dunno, Meth can supposedly reform from another place of Darkness...

 

[Schnee_One]

Isn't that immortality? How does that help sealing?

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

A realm of darkness is different from being sealed in endless time and imaginary space though.

 

[ALRF]

No i meant like he can go to another place that is surrounded in darkness.

 

[Fabtastic_Glasses]

Lui is dankness. He is wherever dankness is. Pseudo omnipresence is a pain in the ass to deal with. Inconclusive

 

[FateAlbane]

Darkness my old friend: 0

Darimurude Sandtempest: 0

Inconclusive: 3 (Gargoyle One, ALRF, Fabtastic Glasses)

 

[ThrudWalkure]

Give my vote to Darude sandstorm

Because Methuselah is dumb and will probably forget to turn off the friendly-fire function on Amanti, thus killing himself

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

i don't think methuselah can KMS with this move and plus he isn't dumb lel

 

[ThrudWalkure]

I have screens of Methuselah failing grade school.

As a fellow disciple of Spinne, just take my word for it. Methuselah has learning impaired levels of dum.

Besides, I wasn't wrong about nobody liking him.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

spinne gave him a brain for lolz i guess but failed spelling bee i suppose no wonder he's edgy OVO yeah he did mention about him being dumb

 

[FateAlbane]

Besides, I wasn't wrong about nobody liking him.

... : (...

 

[FateAlbane]

Meth loses via bullying.

 

[ThrudWalkure]

Here lies Methuselah, most quickly forgotten and unmemorable Masada villain. He tried.

Born - 3/25/2016

Died - Nobody cares to remember

 

[ALRF]

>Died - Nobody cares to remember

I cared.... ;(

 

[Schnee_One]

RIP Meth, you had some potential before you got hilariously casually one shotted

 

[Primaris_Brian]

>Died - Nobody cares to remember
I cared.... ;(

Methuselah is so un glorious, even if someone cares about him it will still be counted as doesn't care..

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

So... why has no one brought up the whole "shunts the combined fear of billions of decillions of years worth of being's fear of the dark into their mind and makes them go insane or die just be being nearby" thing?

 

[Primaris_Brian]

Because nobody cares about Methuselah

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Right, well if Rimuru has no counter, I'm voting for Meth on that alone

 

[Schnee_One]

What is an inconclusive?! A miserable little pile of tied.

But enough talk, HAVE MY VOTE For Monarch's reasons

 

[ALRF]

...I'm just gonna quote Fab from the previous thread.

He has Ciel with him which can prevent The System of the World directly messing with his head.

Somewhat a mind hax/resistance.

Here, done.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

well how strong is the mind hax resistence anyway?

 

[Fabtastic_Glasses]

System of the World can control pretty much everything in the verse. Concept, life, rules of physics, someone's will, soul/spirit, etc etc

Said System is competent enough, not even the Creator Dragon God who created it whos at least low 2-C can't defy it.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

wow hmm i guess that's enough i suppose i wonder about barrier trapping and passive barriers lui will bring up though i suspect power negation is a factor in that??

 

[ALRF]

He has ways to bypass them so no they won't work

 

[Fabtastic_Glasses]

Rimul can simply teleport out of Lui's dankness prison. Or negate it with Magic Canceller.

 

[FateAlbane]

So anyone else is keeping their vote or...?

Plus what is and how does this Ciel thing work, tho?

EDIT: Yes, I read the profile, just asking more or less the mechanics of that thing. Is it passive? Because I heard Meth's stuff is passive and always on.

 

[FateAlbane]

Like, if Rimuru needs to activate it in some way it may be too late.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

You can think of ciel as a supercomputer, it can basically tell rimuru anything about the world, or any non-concealed phenomenon that occurs, ciel is a superior artificial intelligence to the system of the world which manages everything, the dragon god veldanava created the system of the world, but he couldn't defy it and as a result lost his powers which created the universe, ciel however can defy the system of the world. It's always active btw.

 

[FateAlbane]

'k, then. For now I'll be waiting the others opinions on this before counting their votes, if they want to still argue for Meth or go for Inconclusive as well.