Metal Gear: Raiden durability upgrade

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks good to me as well.

 

[Antvasima]

What do you think about the issue of disagreement?

 

[Qawsedf234]

But Raiden with his previous HF blade could not damage Anderson.

Well he did eventually damage them since you can see multiple slash wounds on his arms . Seems like the nanomachines can only protect for so long before they start to lose power and speed. Raiden won by wearing Armstrong down more or less.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I agree with the upgrades I mean

 

[KinkiestSins]

I agree with the upgrades I mea

I think he means, give your opinion on it.

As for for the above.

It still seems to me even inflicting some wounds on anderson with masumune, when the HF blade couldnt do anything before should mean one of the following.

A. It is either higher on the town level ap.

B. It is PIS.

C. If he wore anderson down, it still warrants at 'At Least Low 7-C ranking'

Edit: Also going to bed, I will come back to this thread later.

 

[Qawsedf234]

I agree with C. Plus it would fit that Jetstream Sam quote about him theortically being able to beat Armstrong (assuming it actually exists). Plus other QTEs show him standing up to the Murasama fine.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Either A or C, but I guess I'll be leaning towards C.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I suppose that we seem to get an option C solution then.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

What exactly is the discussion here?

 

[Hop_Hoppington-Hoppenhiemer]

Hop thinks this is a game mechanic to empower the player and reduce the stress on them during a moment of immense action, by assisting stuff like that. And even in Ripper mode, unblockable attacks still know Raiden down. It's more of a stat boost than anything else. Hop played this game allot and it does let you take damage. I think the content in the link isn't genuine or reflective of the character's stats or the intention of the developers.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Unrelated, but there is a calc that puts Ripper Blade Mode Raiden at Relativistic.

 

[LordGinSama]

^

I remember seeing one on the Naruto Forums. I can try to dig it up however I can't view them.

 

[Dark649]

Most things about this game during battles are game mechanic.

 

[Hop_Hoppington-Hoppenhiemer]

Yes.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:LordXcano/Raiden's_Speed_Against_the_Rain_(Redux)

Sub-Relativistic actually.

 

[KinkiestSins]

Matts power to revive dead thread are terrifying. But, no. That was not the issue matt.

Also, I saw that we accepted the buff, but not the speed...weird.. Idk why XCano didnt list this on his profile, is the calc wrong?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

No, it is accepted. Just never applied.

 

[KinkiestSins]

No, it is accepted. Just never applied.

Well, I can go through the changes. should scale to Raiden, Armstrong and maybe sam. (I just woke up tho) Also, we basically agreed to change Raiden, Sam and Armstrong to 'At Least Low 7-C' as well are durability changes. So that will need to applied.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Alright.

 

[KinkiestSins]

Allright, to sum up the changes.

Raiden and Sam would be upgraded to 'At Least Low 7-C'. Raiden will get Town Level durability in ripper mode due to it being unable to hurt him.

Armstrong would be upgraded to 'Likely 7-C'. He tanked hits from ripper mode and curb stomped raiden.

Raiden, Armstrong and Sam would be upgraded to 'Sub-Relativistic'.

That should be it.

I need Raiden (Metal Gear) page unlocked.

Edit: Just noticed the calc is ripper mode only, so it should read.


"At Least Massively Hypersonic+, Sub-Relativistic in ripper mode."

Armstrong and Sam would be upgraded I think to be 'At Least Massively Hypersonic+, Likely Sub-Relativistic'

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

It's like Ripper Blade Mode. I dunno if anyone scales.

 

[KinkiestSins]

It's like Ripper Blade Mode. I dunno if anyone scales.

According to OP:

So I just checked some gameplay, and Ripper Mode (Raiden's version of a Berserk Mode) doesn't seem to harm him at all. Thus, Raiden's durability should be upgraded accordingly. In addition, anyone capable of harming him without durability negation (such as Armstrong) should be upgraded to Town level

I agreed because Raiden is clearly shown to be in ripper mode here when trying to damage armstrong, which he was unaffected by.

Armstrong also stomped Raiden in the entire fight until he was weakened at the end.

Edit: If you disagree somehow, let me know. I trust your judgement.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

well only armstrong should scale I suspect. Sam idk again he lost to base so there is that

 

[KinkiestSins]

well only armstrong should scale I suspect. Sam idk again he lost to base so there is that

Well good news for sam, he is now 'At Least Low 7-C'

However as decided above, we set aside murasama at being town level.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Yeah, only Armstrong.

 

[KinkiestSins]

Yeah, only Armstrong.

Can you unlock Raiden's profile so I can change it or do you want to proceed with the changes? (I am fine with either or)

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Unlocking it.

 

[KinkiestSins]

Unlocking it.

Done, you may look at it before you lock it again.

 

[Antvasima]

I have locked the page and removed the highlight for this discussion. Should we close the thread now?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I suppose we can go ahead and close it if the changes were made.

 

[Antvasima]

I will wait to get a confirmation from the others.

 

[KinkiestSins]

I am fine with this thread being closed.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.