Meliodas vs Boboiboy (Low 7B match)

[Greatsage13th]

And that's for only two of the clones, the rest are fair game for Meliodas.

And there's also the big difference between their Stamina, where Meliodas can outlast

Outlasting isn't going to do much when Boboiboy could combine attacks to increase his own AP.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Infact, almost all of Boboiboy's fused attacks are actually not ranged at all.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Full Counter, Counter Vanish, and Revenge Counter

 

[Greatsage13th]

Revenge counter could still be avoided by Boboiboy halilintar and Boboiboy Solar and they would indeed fuse with each other with elemental fusion.

 

[Axxtentacle]

So... what stops Meliodas from just amplifying the power of the reflected attack to something higher than Boboiboy can block?

 

[Axxtentacle]

Revenge counter could still be avoided by Boboiboy halilintar and Boboiboy Solar and they would indeed fuse with each other with elemental fusion.

Why would he do that without knowledge?

 

[Greatsage13th]

Why would he do that without knowledge?

He would do that either if he knows the enemy is stronger than him or when the fight starts to get very intense.

 

[Greatsage13th]

So... what stops Meliodas from just amplifying the power of the reflected attack to something higher than Boboiboy can block?

Boboiboy cyclone and leaf's barriers are going to reflect these projectiles back at him if it wasn't some kind of beam. So technically it's a game of ping pong at this point.

 

[Axxtentacle]

Boboiboy cyclone and leaf's barriers are going to reflect these projectiles back at him if it wasn't some kind of beam. So technically it's a game of ping pong at this point.

This is assuming that his barriers won't be at some point overpowered, which is NLF

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Boboiboy cyclone and leaf's barriers are going to reflect these projectiles back at him if it wasn't some kind of beam. So technically it's a game of ping pong at this point.

BBB doesn't reflect attacks back to the attacker though, they get sent to random directions

It's even in your video why are you making it like BBB can control their trajectory

 

[Greatsage13th]

This is assuming that his barriers won't be at some point overpowered, which is NLF

I has been able to reflect even attacks that transmutes anything on an atomic/molecular level.

 

[Greatsage13th]

BBB doesn't reflect attacks back to the attacker though, they get sent to random directions

It's even in your video why are you making it like BBB can control their trajectory

I said he could reflect all of Meliodas' attacks. Not that he can control his trajectory ^^ll

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

I has been able to reflect even attacks that transmutes anything on an atomic/molecular level.

That doesn't mean the attack was stronger than his barrier.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

I said he could reflect all of Meliodas' attacks. Not that he can control his trajectory ^^ll

Boboiboy cyclone and leaf's barriers are going to reflect these projectiles back at him if it wasn't some kind of beam. So technically it's a game of ping pong at this point.

You were implying that they get sent back to Meliodas instead of random directions

 

[Greatsage13th]

That doesn't mean the attack was stronger than his barrier.

The barrier is specialized to deal with ranged projectile attacks. So spamming hellfire or reflecting Boboiboy's attacks won't do much besides making it much more powerful than it needs to be but Meliodas' could just disperse the barrier by melee instead of using ranged attacks.

Also. Meliodas isn't able to reflect Boboiboy Solar, Blaze , Ais and Thorn's attacks as they aren't magical in any way shape or form.

 

[Greatsage13th]

You were implying that they get sent back to Meliodas instead of random directions

Sorry. I apologise.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

The barrier is specialized to deal with ranged projectile attacks. So spamming hellfire or reflecting Boboiboy's attacks won't do much besides making it much more powerful than it needs to be but Meliodas' could just disperse the barrier by melee instead of using ranged attacks.

Also. Meliodas isn't able to reflect Boboiboy Solar, Blaze , Ais and Thorn's attacks as they aren't magical in any way shape or form.

Being specialized to deal with ranged projectiles does not mean in anyway that BBB can block attacks way higher than his Tier unless you have proof.

Meliodas' Counter, IIRC, adds a 3X multiplier for every counter added to the reflected attack.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Being specialized to deal with ranged projectiles does not mean in anyway that BBB can block attacks way higher than his Tier unless you have proof.

Meliodas' Counter, IIRC, adds a 3X multiplier for every counter added to the reflected attack.

Reflect=/=block

Boboiboy cyclone's barrier reflects projectiles in the same manner as a jester zombie from PVZ2 but where the projectile hits are random as shown in the scene.

Also, Meliodas' full counter has been shown to only reflect Magical attacks and non magical earth and lightning attacks but Boboiboy Halilintar and Boboiboy Gempa are melee specialists whom would less likely resort to ranged projectiles besides Boboiboy halilintar's thunderstorm blade shower and randomly throwing his thunderstorm swords at Meliodas sometimes.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Reflect=/=block

Boboiboy cyclone's barrier reflects projectiles in the same manner as a jester zombie from PVZ2 but where the projectile hits are random as shown in the scene.

Also, Meliodas' full counter has been shown to only reflect Magical attacks and non magical earth and lightning attacks but Boboiboy Halilintar and Boboiboy Gempa are melee specialists whom would less likely resort to ranged projectiles besides Boboiboy halilintar's thunderstorm blade shower and randomly throwing his thunderstorm swords at Meliodas sometimes.

Your basically implying that Boboiboy can reflect/block projectile attacks that can be 3 to 27 times or higher stronger than him which is a big NLF

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Attack Reflection (Can reflect magic attacks and amplify them. Meliodas has also shown the ability to reflect non magical Darkness and Lightning)

 

[Greatsage13th]

Your basically implying that Boboiboy can reflect/block projectile attacks that can be 3 to 27 times or higher stronger than him which is a big NLF

It's only true for projectiles that don't have much momentum. It's the same concept as similar as dropping a 7B tsar bomba in a High 7C tornado but the tornado would just relaunch the 7B object elsewhere by a shift in an object's momentum.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Attack Reflection (Can reflect magic attacks and amplify them. Meliodas has also shown the ability to reflect non magical Darkness and Lightning)

Is it true for wind, ice, earth, light and leaf as well?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

It's only true for projectiles that don't have much momentum. It's the same concept as similar as dropping a 7B tsar bomba in a High 7C tornado but the tornado would just relaunch the 7B object elsewhere by a shift in an object's momentum.

You your saying that BBB could deflect a 3-A attack if it doesn't have enough momentum?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Is it true for wind, ice, earth, light and leaf as well?

Light possibly, it seems Meliodas can reflect energy not sure about solid matter

 

[Greatsage13th]

Because this feels NLF to assume every single non-magical elemental attack could be reflected even by those that utilize technology.

 

[Greatsage13th]

You your saying that BBB could deflect a 3-A attack if it doesn't have enough momentum?

If it's a projectile condensed to a size of a bullet and moves like one and doesn't have a mass of universe but has the capacity to contain such energies....then yes.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Because this feels NLF to assume every single non-magical elemental attack could be reflected even by those that utilize technology.

And it feels NLF to assume that BBB can reflect any and all projectiles

 

[Axxtentacle]

If it's a projectile condensed to a size of a bullet and moves like one and doesn't have a mass of universe but has the capacity to contain such energies....then yes.

That is like, complete NLF

 

[Greatsage13th]

And it feels NLF to assume that BBB can reflect any and all projectiles

I didn't say all of them. For example, he can't reflect Boboiboy Solar's projectiles because it's impossible to redirect it with just a simple wind barrier but could disper Boboiboy halilintar's lightning projectiles.

 

[Greatsage13th]

That is like, complete NLF

Reflecting an attack that has a mass of the universe. =/= reflecting an attack that has 3A AP but weighs as much as a regular bullet and moves at the same speed.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Boboiboy's wind barriers are several kilometers long vertically and several hundred meters long horizontally. So any ranged projectiles other than those of massive stature, non-interactable or extremely concentrated beams would be reflected.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Boboiboy's wind barriers are several kilometers long vertically and several hundred meters long horizontally. So any ranged projectiles other than those of massive stature, non-interactable or extremely concentrated beams would be reflected.

And yet the video you showed, presented it as a dome a few meters in diameter around BBB

 

[Greatsage13th]

And yet the video you showed, presented it as a dome a few meters in diameter around BBB

I'll send the cutscene at a later time. I'm currently on mobile data and not on WiFi. Give or take an hour and a half.

 

[Axxtentacle]

The fact that you're saying that it can reflect an attack of even 3-A AP just because of the size of the attack is NLF.

 

[Greatsage13th]

The fact that you're saying that it can reflect an attack of even 3-A AP just because of the size of the attack is NLF.

I said mass. Not size.

 

[Axxtentacle]

"Reflecting an attack that has a mass of the universe. =/= reflecting an attack that has 3A AP but weighs as much as a regular bullet and moves at the same speed."

What even is this argument?? This is genuinely baffling and sounds like complete wank

 

[Greatsage13th]

"Reflecting an attack that has a mass of the universe. =/= reflecting an attack that has 3A AP but weighs as much as a regular bullet and moves at the same speed."

What even is this argument?? This is genuinely baffling and sounds like complete wank

This thing above can applied to some scenarios.

 

[Axxtentacle]

but why does it apply to THIS scenario??

 

[Greatsage13th]

but why does it apply to THIS scenario??

Because as far as I remember you could easily shift the momentum of an attack as long as it doesn't travel too fast or the projectile in question has a very large mass.

But you can't expect to full counter an attack and amplify it's mass of the projectile in question. Only it's ferocity and energy output would be amplified 3 times. Not it's mass nor speed.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Of course, unless the move's context specifies that in question.