Medaka vs Yhwach

[Omimi]

Plot Manipulation (Her status as the "Hero" causes the story to always flow in her favor, no matter what odds stand against her, forcing Plot-Induced Stupidity onto others so that she can win)

if this thing is real power then Medaka win

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

2 Questions

what was the reasoning for previous Yhwach votes besides i vote yhwach and FRA

and how does his imagination realization work exactly i cant find the sternritter that he gets the ability from

 

[Rocker1189]

PIS vs The Almighty, I think Yhwach just about edges out with no PIS arrow.

 

[PaChi2]

2 Questions

what was the reasoning for previous Yhwach votes besides i vote yhwach and FRA

and how does his imagination realization work exactly i cant find the sternritter that he gets the ability from

Gremmy Thoumeaux

Its on the lines of "I think something, it becomes real".

 

[Rocker1189]

I dont actually think yhwach can win here, mostly because in character he does not use his stenritter powers, however with them he would probably win. So if he sees that in the future, he might win. So never mind I have no idea who to vote for.

This was my reason, which was backed up since they have no PIS arrow.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

All Yhwach relies on his reality warping and almighty neither of them can do anything to beat medaka as

They cant bypass they All fiction and even if he could somehow bypass it

instinctive reaction and encounter would make it impossible for yhwach to do anything as she can just push away all the effects with encounter

While medaka has Causality or Conceptual manipulation to perma kill yhwach

Plot manipulation to round it up makes it a complete stomp

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Alright, Let's look at this here

Most of Medaka's abnormalities will be useless because of The Almighty, unless Mr. Unknown will stop him from percieving her in the future, but I am doubful of this.

Her Minus or Style will definitely still work tho, since The Almighty can't null them.

Yhwach has an impressive arsenal, but it doesn't seem he will not actually use said arsenal. Either way Medaka will copy it in the end (kek). Most of it gets trumped by All Fiction anyway

 

[Omimi]

my vote goes to medaka for''' Sherk''' reason

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

All Yhwach relies on his reality warping and almighty neither of them can do anything to beat medaka as
They cant bypass they All fiction and even if he could somehow bypass it

instinctive reaction and encounter would make it impossible for yhwach to do anything as she can just push away all the effects with encounter

While medaka has Causality or Conceptual manipulation to perma kill yhwach

Plot manipulation to round it up makes it a complete stomp

essentiially this. I would say Medaka wins but its a stomp with The Hero

 

[PaChi2]

All Yhwach relies on his reality warping and almighty neither of them can do anything to beat medaka as

They cant bypass they All fiction and even if he could somehow bypass it

instinctive reaction and encounter would make it impossible for yhwach to do anything as she can just push away all the effects with encounter

While medaka has Causality or Conceptual manipulation to perma kill yhwach

Plot manipulation to round it up makes it a complete stomp

>All Fiction/ Instictive Reaction / The Encounter: BFR.

Medaka wont come back from space. Yhwach can null her abilities. Medaka doesnt spam All fiction from the get-go. Causality or conceptual manipulation is the only thing Medaka can kill Yhwach with. Lol.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Man ya forgot. ZA HERO.

 

[PaChi2]

Counting votes, tho.

Medaka: 3

Yhwach: 2

Incon: 0

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

>All Fiction/ Instictive Reaction / The Encounter: BFR.

Medaka wont come back from space. Yhwach can null her abilities. Medaka doesnt spam All fiction from the get-go. Causality or conceptual manipulation is the only thing Medaka can kill Yhwach with. Lol.

How the hell does BFR counter All Ficiton? She just undoes her movement into space

Yhwach can't null Minus nor Styles. Encounter stops her from dying in he vacuum of space, not claiming it would save her from Yhwach's other attacks but it would atleast stop that, and give her time to come back from space. Of course, but it will definitely kill him. Given a strong enough enemy, she will spam her abilities

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

She can come back from death but not from BFR

Neither does yhwach start with Nulling not to mention he has to hit sankt altar which would always be negated by instinctive reaction and encounter

Her plot manipulation cant be stolen or copied

while she can copy yhwaches abilities easily

 

[PaChi2]

Show me a instance of All Fiction being used in such a way in which Kumagawa instantly comes back from being tossed somewhere. Please.

And Yhwach is weaker than Medaka, so no, not strong enough for her to spam abilities.

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Good lord, I never thought it would come to this

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

I go by what this site states im not very knowledable in either of the verses

 

[PaChi2]

She can come back from death but not from BFR

Neither does yhwach start with Nulling not to mention he has to hit sankt altar which would always be negated by instinctive reaction and encounter

Her plot manipulation cant be stolen or copied

while she can copy yhwaches abilities easily

???

What Yhwach sees, he understands, what he understands, is nulled. Simple.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Its Casusality Manipulation that can undo actions. Why would tossing someone into space be different then any other action?

Also show me Yhwach BFRing someone into space

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Show me an example of how yhwach can bypass All Fiction in any way or form or ignore encounter

 

[PaChi2]

Its Casusality Manipulation that can undo actions. Why would tossing someone into space be different then any other action?

Also show me Yhwach BFRing someone into space

Gremmy Thoumeaux

Galaxy Room.

Yhwach has his abilities.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Gremmy Thoumeaux

Galaxy Room.

Yhwach has his abilities.

Yhwach doesn't use The Visionary in character. Anyway, its nothing All Fiction can't simply undo

 

[PaChi2]

Show me an example of how yhwach can bypass All Fiction in any way or form or ignore encounter

Bambietta Basterbine

Make Medaka self-destruct (to ignore the encounter).

Afaik, he cant null All Fiction unless its something like rewriting a future in which Medaka doesnt resurrect.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

He never showed the ability to copy powers as causality or plot manipulation assuming

and even if he can Medaka would instantly push away the effects of it with encounter and would just gain his power

Not to mention i still see no way he can bypass her plot manipulation as it literally induces PIS

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Encounter : ...No matter how fast or numerous the attacks, she will take no damage from any assault...

dont see self destruction working especially not with instinctive reaction

 

[PaChi2]

He never showed the ability to copy powers as causality or plot manipulation assuming

and even if he can Medaka would instantly push away the effects of it with encounter and would just gain his power

Not to mention i still see no way he can bypass her plot manipulation as it literally induces PIS

Uryü Ishida

It was given to Uryu by Yhwach. It reverses effects. There you go with Causality.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

So... Someone wanna explain why Killer Queen would get around Encounter?

 

[PaChi2]

Encounter : ...No matter how fast or numerous the attacks, she will take no damage from any assault...

dont see self destruction working especially not with instinctive reaction

Its... not... an attack? The technique makes Medaka a walking bomb, she explodes herself. Nobody is attacking her or damaging her, she explodes, the same way she breaths.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

He has a lot of powers can u please tell me the exact name of the one u brought up

 

[PaChi2]

He has a lot of powers can u please tell me the exact name of the one u brought up

The Antithesis

 

[Tincan123]

Gremmy Thoumeaux

Galaxy Room.

Yhwach has his abilities. </div

Gremmy power is a double edge sword. In one hand you could say he can open galaxies and stuff but on the other he can lose because of this power

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

So... Someone wanna explain why Killer Queen would get around Encounter?

Killer queen ultimate after murdering Giorno and yare yare memeing lovetrain yeah.

He definitely would. Except obviously Man.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

lol

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Whats the greatest thing Anthithesis reflected

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Whats the greatest thing Anthithesis reflected

The Antithesis is essentially just Hundred Gauntlets. It isnt' a concern anyway since it doesn't resist power null like minuses, so she can just erase it. Most powerful thing was Uryu i believe

 

[PaChi2]

Whats the greatest thing Anthithesis reflected

Its underwhelming, sadly.

It only transferred the damage Uryu sustained to Jugram.

Jugram still hyped it as the only ability capable of defeating The Almighty.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Uryu? what his standard attacks

if thats what u mean then it cant do anything to causality

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Well any other argument for yhwach as this is turning to be a stomp every moment it goes further

 

[PaChi2]

Uryu? what his standard attacks

if thats what u mean then it cant do anything to causality

I cant understand anything in here.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

I was refering to Iapitus comment Basically i said if it has shown only effects of physical damage it wont do anything to causality