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Medaka Box Dimensional Tiering

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Matthew Schroeder said:
My favorite type of thread.
But yeah, people already gave pretty much all the reasons why this is a no.
No reason doe. It's just a bit of arguing here and there i don't recall any strong argument for why this is a no-no.

@Fate It depends on what dimensions mean, in our case it's already been showcased they mean "vs wiki" definition of dimension. Check this out if you want https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1785328. That can happen when taken out of context, already established this is not out of context.

The Moon wasn't gonna do shit m8. It was just plot. Let's get Ajimu to "10-B" since she got killed by a rubber. It's just the plot, Kumagawa erased concepts from the universe...the moon is a big deal...rly? Cases like these are the reason Super Goku is not bullet level cus he was hurt by a bullet or Goku Black doesn't have < bullet level speed cus he failed to see a bullet that passed right in front of his eyes. Medaka didn't create the moon...PIS, i mean it's not like u saw her try and failed. Medaka lost her powers, even though Ajimu predates creation and has her powers, and Kumagawa also has his powers....PIS. I mean you already removed the hero, why are bringing up these points? Kumagawa had his body splattered to the point of turning to mush...was scared of the moon falling, ofc if goku shoots a gun and i shoot a gun, goku's gun will be stronger...cus PIS.

@DMB1 Iihiko is higher dimensional, Ajimu is 1-A.
 
The wonderful logic of the above reply:

1. "Take the headcanon instead of the plot."

2. "Anything that goes against the headcanon or would prevent such upgrade from happening, is PIS because I say so."

I have no counter-argument for such well constructed rethorical and persuasive power.

I humbly accept my defeat in this argument.
Umi-17-9
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But you said that the ƒîÖ Is only an higher dimensional structure which is a pretty good low ball, Kumagawa stated that he can Destroy the world via logic he said the complex Hyperverse structure and this can't work on Ihiko so at best it's obviously 1-A like Yukari yakumo
 
"The Moon has been identified as an incomprehensible, higher dimensional construct, acting as the nigh-omnipotent tool in Medaka Box world. Due to its boundlessness nature, it can offest all forms of attack, abilities and so on no matter their nature. It's only below the rubber band, an all destroying weapon, that once thrown, destroys all forms of concepts, possibilities, logick, dualities, and so on effectively being an "Absolute Destruction" weapon"
 
Uhm...ojou-chan. There is nothing to suggest that my above upgrades are false. While it's a bit TOO clear that everythig you mentioned is PIS.

Medaka loses her powers, Kumagawa and Ajimu don't even though it's the same power....not pis.

Kumagawa erases colors from exisence, doesn't erase the moon....not pis.

Ajimu who laughs at all skills, gets done in by a rubber band...not pis.

Medaka doesn't create the moon while she still has her powers, but decides to do so when her powers are gone because she apparently feels like she can have an easier time when she doesn't have her powers...not pis. (no matter how you look at this last one, it's dumb)

Ajimu brushes skills and styles, while being god figure throughout the whole series...it's pis ofc.

Iihiko is unreachable by skills, was stated to be higher dimensional, can only be hurt by dimensional surpassing styles and has a explanation for it all....pis.

Styles work on iihiko, are logically and statement wise surpassing dimensions...pis.

Also @Fate don't act like Medaka is the only show with PIS, Medaka makes it clear when there is PIS and when there is not.
 
FateAlbane said:
Noooo, I already lost! Forgive mee ~ Please stop showering me with such powerful logic, it hurts. It burns!
Eva-Beatrice-eva-beatrice-28992599-627-480 (1)
Nooooo!!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Might as well add "no u" there and it'd be a nice argument.

 
Okay so

I just read the OP

So

What is the evidence for 1-A Ajimu other than a randomly named-skill called "surpass Dimensions" which only appears on a background wall of text which lists her skills and is then mentioned a single time by Medaka?

Note that I heard some people saying the name of the skill is "Cross dimensions" in the original Japanese. Don't quote me on that, though
 
"If this crippled Indian boy can be 1-A, why can't my dog also be this tier? It makes sense, don't question it."

The presence dog
But my dog is this tier...
 
Ultima Reality said:
What is the evidence for 1-A Ajimu other than a randomly named-skill called "surpass Dimensions" which only appears on a background wall of text which lists her skills and is then mentioned a single time by Medaka?

Note that I heard some people saying the name of the skill is "Cross dimensions" in the original Japanese. Don't quote me on that, though
Well the "surpass dimensions" skill is just a start. I already gave enough proof in the opening where she just trash talks concepts and her feat of no selling styles which surpass dimensions and have shown to do so via the feat of working on Iihiko who was unreachable by 3D and 4D powers. It's a bit like power scaling but everything lines up without exception.

About the translation thingy (yes imma quote u a bit on it), it's japanese, the original translation is Surpass Dimensions, though some people believe it to be cross dimensions (then again she already has Alibi Block which allows her to do just that so having another skill like that would be pretty redundand, then again cross dimensions would make her....1-B i guess i mean if she can go from the 3D to the 4th and 5th and a goggle dimensions higher after that and eventually literally being infinite so...1B?) < This would make sense only if she hadn't no sold the styles, so imma stick with 1A.
 
"Trash-talking concepts" isn't enough for 1-A, not even remotely close

>1-A

>For having a skill called "surpass Dimensions" which works on someone who resists "4-D powers"

The wank here is impressive

No, seriously. Everything I have seen so far is a bunch of extrapolation and ridiculously wanked assumptions which require giant leaps of faith to work as arguments
 
Ultima Reality said:
"Trash-talking concepts" isn't enough for 1-A, not even remotely close
>1-A

>For having a skill called "surpass Dimensions" which works on someone who resists "4-D powers"

The wank here is impressive

No, seriously. Everything I have seen so far is a bunch of extrapolations and assumptions which require giant leaps of faith to work
U didn't get the point.

The skill "surpass dimensions" is a skill. It's a skill Ajimu has.

Styles are styles, they are different they are like an ability that is wordly based. Styles were stated multiple times to surpass dimensions (scan above), and these styles while they worked on a being who is unreachable by 4D, it failed against Ajimu.

Sry if it's a bit complicated, maybe i sorted it out a bit. Skill in Medaka Box we usually reffer to pluses and minuses, styles are another category that surpasses dimensions (it's a trait of ALL styles, not certain ones).
 
Hold on

If others says Cross Dimensions, while other says Supass/Exceed Dimensions means ÚüÄÒüÄÒéï is used

And holy **** how ÚüÄÒüÄÒéï is one of the most bullshit japanese words to use since it can mean to pass, to cross, to exceed

That makes me even extra doubtful...does anyone have the original scan in japanese alongside the exact word circled around?
 
Firephoenixearl said:
and these styles while they worked on a being who is unreachable by 4D, it failed against Ajimu.
Ajimu > Cast who defeated style users > Styles > Iihiko > Ajimu
0000000000Dat
 
>styles are another category that surpasses dimensions (it's a trait of ALL styles, not certain ones).

Fam, the problem is you never gave us scans/solid proof to ascertain all of this 1-A stuff.

You're just using speculations/Headcanon that makes things even worse
 
ALRF said:
Hold on
If others says Cross Dimensions, while other says Supass/Exceed Dimensions means ÚüÄÒüÄÒéï is used

And holy **** how ÚüÄÒüÄÒéï is one of the most bullshit japanese words to use since it can mean to pass, to cross, to exceed
Passing or crossing (how are these 2 different? xD) wouldn't give her the ability to no sell Styles.

I mean i wouldn't mind settling for 1-B or high 1-B but i believe the style feat makes it more of a 1-A.
 
The funny part is that the whole styles don't brush on Ajimu is bull, too.

Ajimu was hit by the style of that girl with the card sealing. She could escape it whenever she wanted after that, yes. Doesn't change the fact that she was affected by the technique when she didn't try to escape it.

Ajimu isn't untouchable by styles. She just usually fodderizes the users before they even get a chance to use them.
 
FateAlbane said:
Firephoenixearl said:
and these styles while they worked on a being who is unreachable by 4D, it failed against Ajimu.
Ajimu > Cast who defeated style users > Styles > Iihiko > Ajimu
0000000000Dat
Idk whether you expect me to take that seriously or not, im seriously wondering how well you know the show at this point, imma tell you to go give it another short read and not bother with your comments.
 
Oh my god, my heart, I'm so hurt by this comment. ~ Why you're so mean to me, I'm so sad right now I could cry.
 
Honestly this whole Thread is a bullshit attempt to upgrade Medaka Box using Headcanon and creepy amounts of speculation which show ignorance regarding the Tiering System and basic common sense used when discussing this sort of stuff

Reminds me of Tier 0 Ajimu

;-;
 
ALRF said:
>styles are another category that surpasses dimensions (it's a trait of ALL styles, not certain ones).
Fam, the problem is you never gave us scans/solid proof to ascertain all of this 1-A stuff.

You're just using speculations/Headcanon that makes things even worse
I already did.There have been multiple statements that styles surpass dimensions (1 is in the OP it'll take a bit of time to find the other one, but just know that there is more than 1).

Iihiko (as we already established) is 4D to 5D being idk how we count that, and they worked on him. Which means that the 1-A style isn't an outlier they would affect Iihiko and they even reached (not worked, but still reached) Ajimu who has again "surpassed dimensions".

And as was explained in the manga (on how styles work), it's basically if you hear it, you are affected by it. Because anyone can hear the words, and wordplay is strong Medaka box (i wonder what would happen if Tsurubami was a "typo" kind of guy xD). As long as you hear the words you will be reached by the styles, don't hear the words (more like understand them,but y get the point) you are safe (berzerker mode).
 
We have not established a single thing. No one here agreed with 4-D or 5-D lihiko for resisting """4-D Powers"""
 
Real talk, this should just be closed.

Literally everyone who provided input here realized from the beginning that this thread makes no sense whatsoever from a logical standpoint.
 
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