MCU Thor clean up

[Lacku]

Nothing major but I noticed that compared to some other MCU profiles, when it comes to Thor's quotes and renders he's lacking a bit. So in the sandbox below I updated a lot of it.

Sandbox

vsbattles.fandom.com

Apart from that there are some other additions and clean up all around, along with the adding of a missing stamina, range, equipment, and weaknesses section for Thor's Beginning of Ragnarok key.

 

[LordTracer]

Looks good to me.

 

[Dalesean027]

I'm fine with this

 

[RoTt35]

Agree

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Seems fine except for the Stormbreaker and infinity stone thing. I’m pretty sure that was due to hax and not power or something

 

[Dalesean027]

Yeah it's hax

 

[Lacku]

should we add limited power nullification to storm breaker? specifically against the infinity gauntlet

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

should we add limited power nullification to storm breaker? specifically against the infinity gauntlet

Sure

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Nothing major but I noticed that compared to some other MCU profiles, when it comes to Thor's quotes and renders he's lacking a bit. So in the sandbox below I updated a lot of it.

Sandbox

vsbattles.fandom.com

Apart from that there are some other additions and clean up all around, along with the adding of a missing stamina, range, equipment, and weaknesses section for Thor's Beginning of Ragnarok key.

I love it

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

should we add limited power nullification to storm breaker? specifically against the infinity gauntlet

Power Null against what exactly? The Storm breaker was only going against an energy blast of some sort.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Seems fine except for the Stormbreaker and infinity stone thing. I’m pretty sure that was due to hax and not power or something

Where in the movie was this shown?

 

[Hellbeast]

It’s mentioned in the director commentary iirc

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

It’s mentioned in the director commentary iirc

If it's just a single director commentary statement, I feel really iffy about it. I've also seen some people use stuff on Editing Rules to disregard the statement

 

[Hellbeast]

Hmm fair point
In any case it’d prolly just be a “possibly higher” via that and Rocket’s statement about Dwarven weapons being > other stuff

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Where in the movie was this shown?

Not shown, stated by WoG

https://www.inverse.com/article/513...eaker-can-t-beat-thanos-infinity-gauntlet/amp

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Not shown, stated by WoG

https://www.inverse.com/article/513...eaker-can-t-beat-thanos-infinity-gauntlet/amp

Like I said earlier, if it's just director statements with no explicit evidence in the actual movie, imo that seems really iffy. And he uses the words "I imagine", which makes it sound more like his personal headcanon and interpretation

I imagine it has something to do with the fact that the same guy made both of them

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Like I said earlier, if it's just director statements with no explicit evidence in the actual movie, imo that seems really iffy. And he uses the words "I imagine", which makes it sound more like his personal headcanon and interpretation

Um no it’s not, they guy that stated this was a screenwriter. It kinda isn’t when it’s apparently been stated and implied by his peers. Plus there’s also the russos statement.

 

[Dalesean027]

Yeah the russos also literally have a statement saying essentially the dame thing we've known for a while now Stormbreaker has anti-gauntlet hax basically

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Um no it’s not, they guy that stated this was a screenwriter. It kinda isn’t when it’s apparently been stated and implied by his peers. Plus there’s also the russos statement.

He uses the term “I imagine”. It’s not something definite. Again, nothing in the actual movie itself suggests this, so the statements seems really iffy. All that was definitively said about Stormbreaker is that it is the greatest weapon in Asgard and capable of summoning the Bifrost

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Yeah the russos also literally have a statement saying essentially the dame thing we've known for a while now Stormbreaker has anti-gauntlet hax basically

The statement says Thanos was caught off-guard, so he didn’t use the Stones effectively. I don’t see the statement where they say it counters the Stones

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

He uses the term “I imagine”. It’s not something definite. Again, nothing in the actual movie itself suggests this, so the statements seems really iffy. All that was definitively said about Stormbreaker is that it is the greatest weapon in Asgard and capable of summoning the Bifrost

And agian his statement is cemented by his colleagues regardless so it doesn’t really matter. Dosen’t matter, as long as there is nothing heavily contradicting WoG then it should be fine.

 

[Dalesean027]

He uses the term “I imagine”. It’s not something definite. Again, nothing in the actual movie itself suggests this, so the statements seems really iffy. All that was definitively said about Stormbreaker is that it is the greatest weapon in Asgard and capable of summoning the Bifrost

The statement says Thanos was caught off-guard, so he didn’t use the Stones effectively. I don’t see the statement where they say it counters the Stones

yeah nah the statement is literally this


"It certainly has the ability to counteract the Infinity Gauntlet," said Joe Russo.


"I think that key moment, though, is that Thanos was caught off guard," added Anthony Russo. "He literally just didn't know the power of what was coming at him. I mean, maybe he could have used the Stones in a different way had he understood what that weapon was, but it came out of nowhere."

'Avengers: Infinity War' Directors Address If Stormbreaker Is More Powerful Than Infinity Gauntlet

The events of Avengers: Infinity War established that Thanos is the most powerful being in the [...]

comicbook.com

It quite literally has the ability to counteract the gauntlet on top of Thor catching Thanos off guard

this isn't the only article either

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

yeah nah the statement is literally this


"It certainly has the ability to counteract the Infinity Gauntlet," said Joe Russo.


"I think that key moment, though, is that Thanos was caught off guard," added Anthony Russo. "He literally just didn't know the power of what was coming at him. I mean, maybe he could have used the Stones in a different way had he understood what that weapon was, but it came out of nowhere."

'Avengers: Infinity War' Directors Address If Stormbreaker Is More Powerful Than Infinity Gauntlet

The events of Avengers: Infinity War established that Thanos is the most powerful being in the [...]

comicbook.com

It quite literally has the ability to counteract the gauntlet on top of Thor catching Thanos off guard

this isn't the only article either

Fair enough. I still find it questionable since nothing in the actual movie suggests this at all, but if the Infinity Stone justification wants to be removed by this, then I suppose it looks alright

 

[Lacku]

Alright since we've all agreed I've added Limited Power Nullification to Thors post-Decimation key, I think now that should be everything

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Alright since we've all agreed I've added Limited Power Nullification to Thors post-Decimation key, I think now that should be everything

What about this:

Rocket’s statement about Dwarven weapons being > other stuff

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Looks good to me.

Almost spoiled myself by scrolling up too much and seeing Moon Knights profile

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Also shouldn’t Stormbreaker be like moon lvl or something since it’s stronger then rocket cannon thing

 

[Lacku]

Also shouldn’t Stormbreaker be like moon lvl or something since it’s stronger then rocket cannon thing

I'd wait personally until Love and Thunder comes out to try and apply that since I think the movie might show us some of Thors best feats, Stormbreaker being superior to rockets moon busting cannon could end being used as a supporting feat

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

I'd wait personally until Love and Thunder comes out to try and apply that since I think the movie might show us some of Thors best feats, Stormbreaker being superior to rockets moon busting cannon could end being used as a supporting feat

Ok

 

[Hellbeast]

Also shouldn’t Stormbreaker be like moon lvl or something since it’s stronger then rocket cannon thing

I'd say "possibly higher" for that tbh
We'd also need to wait for Love and Thunder which might have crazy shit (inb4 5-B)

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Can this be applied yet?

 

[Lacku]

Yeah sorry I've been a little busy, this can be applied but the page has to be unlocked first

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Hm

May I suggest that you organise the tabbers like we do with Iron Man and Captain America? (A tabber for each Phase)

 

[Lacku]

Hm

May I suggest that you organise the tabbers like we do with Iron Man and Captain America? (A tabber for each Phase)

I would but the page already has tabbers for him pre and post awakening, which I think works better with his keys

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Quote me here when you're available to perform the changes and I'll unlock the page for you

 

[Lacku]

Quote me here when you're available to perform the changes and I'll unlock the page for you

I'd be good to apply it now if you're able to

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

I'd be good to apply it now if you're able to

It's unlocked

 

[Lacku]

It's unlocked

Everything's been added so the page can be locked again, thank you!

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

No problem

Is there anything else to discuss, or should I lock this thread?

 

[Lacku]

No problem

Is there anything else to discuss, or should I lock this thread?

There should be nothing else, it can be locked.