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MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread

Kinda wished the characters from the previous episodes made it into the finale like last season. 6/9 of the episodes were basically irrelevant to the strange plot.
 
Can someone please get Kahhori as far away as possible from Captain Carter
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I do believe Kahhori being that strong is grade A BS. How she go from struggling against a Sub-Scarlet Witch Wanda to doing “anything” against SS in just a few minutes? I think she should just scale to Pre-SW Wanda and higher with Mojlnir and 10R, but not to SS. Inconsistent and and outlier.

Also, an army of Kang’s just feel so lackluster now… in light of SS, Infinity Ultron, etc etc. Season 3 should have a Kang Variant being the big-bad in the last episode because if not, dude isn’t a threat… comparatively.
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
I do believe Kahhori being that strong is grade A BS. How she go from struggling against a Sub-Scarlet Witch Wanda to doing “anything” against SS in just a few minutes? I think she should just scale to Pre-SW Wanda and higher with Mojlnir and 10R, but not to SS. Inconsistent and and outlier.
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True, true. But imagine what Reactive Evolution level she can have... XD
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
I do believe Kahhori being that strong is grade A BS. How she go from struggling against a Sub-Scarlet Witch Wanda to doing “anything” against SS in just a few minutes? I think she should just scale to Pre-SW Wanda and higher with Mojlnir and 10R, but not to SS. Inconsistent and and outlier.

Also, an army of Kang’s just feel so lackluster now… in light of SS, Infinity Ultron, etc etc. Season 3 should have a Kang Variant being the big-bad in the last episode because if not, dude isn’t a threat… comparatively.
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The writer Ryan Little said she's the Space Stone incarnate
 
Revan_Laha said:
High 6-A to 5-B
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Why though? That guy has no feat at all ...he literally couldn't beat a human tier Hela who is barely superhuman at best. So why should he scale that high?

The other day we weren't willing to give Thor his usual low 4c tier from episode 8 where he was stalemating Cap Carter. So why is he (Odin ) now scaling to his 616 version?
 
Newendigo said:
This last episode sucked so much ass
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Tbh it feels like they just pulling plotlines outta thin air rather than actually exploring the butterfly effect (which unironically was referenced in the last episode btw) and branching out was is possible among the infinite branches of the true Yggdrasil, e.g: What if the civil war continued? What if the High Evolutionary created Utopia? What if Gorr won? What if Captain Marvel joined the Kree empire? What if Wakanda And Talokan took over the world?, What if the Eternals intervened?, etc.

Personally I didn't like how half the episodes in S2 were inconsequential unlike in S1 where every episode mattered in the overarching narrative and were explicitly referenced in the finale (minus Gamora/Tony's episode which was push back to S2 and still felt rushed since it didn't show how the Infinity Crusher was even made nor the Infinity Stones getting destroyed) .

"What if...?" literally has infinite potential but it's clear the different MCU writers aren't sharing their notes with each other.

Also if "What if... Quicksilver survived the AoU? or Scarlet Witch died instead of Quicksilver?" isn't in S3 then it's clear to me the writers not only don't understand their audience but what an actual Multiverse is (tho the meta reason might be the Mouse still being bitter about Fox Quicksilver hence why the Mouse specifically killed off MCU Quicksilver and brought in actor for Fox Quicksilver just to flanderise the character as an erection joke while stomping on what was left of Wanda's love for her brother and moving on to becoming obsessive with her imaginary kids).

Tl;dr: This is the first time I'm not hyped or even excited for future MCU projects (Disney plus exclusives) and it feels bad considering how epic S2 of Loki was with a satisfying and thematic conclusion.
 
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The_Axiom_of_Virgo said:
Tbh it feels like they just pulling plotlines outta thin air rather than actually exploring the butterfly effect (which unironically was referenced in the last episode btw) and branching out was is possible among the infinite branches of the true Yggdrasil, e.g: What if the civil war continued? What if the High Evolutionary created Utopia? What if Gorr won? What if Captain Marvel joined the Kree empire? What if Wakanda And Talokan took over the world?, What if the Eternals intervened?, etc.

Personally I didn't like how half the episodes in S2 were inconsequential unlike in S1 where every episode mattered in the overarching narrative and were explicitly referenced in the finale (minus Gamora/Tony's episode which was push back to S2 and still felt rushed since it didn't show how the Infinity Crusher was even made nor the Infinity Stones getting destroyed) .

"What if...?" literally has infinite potential but it's clear the different MCU writers aren't sharing their notes with each other.

Also if "What if... Quicksilver survived the AoU? or Scarlet Witch died instead of Quicksilver?" isn't in S3 then it's clear to me the writers not only don't understand their audience but what an actual Multiverse is (tho the meta reason might be the Mouse still being bitter about Fox Quicksilver hence why the Mouse specifically killed off MCU Quicksilver and brought in actor for Fox Quicksilver just to flanderise the character as an erection joke while stomping on what was left of Wanda's love for her brother and moving on to becoming obsessive with her imaginary kids).

Tl;dr: This is the first time I'm not hyped or even excited for future MCU projects (Disney plus exclusives) and it feels bad considering how epic S2 of Loki was with a satisfying and thematic conclusion.
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Quicksilver living, Eternals doing anything, Ultron is good, Odin remains a conquer or Jotenheim defeats Asgard, Projectile Rebirth isn't interrupted, Obadiah Stane wins, Aldrich Killian wins, Abomination wins, Ronan wins, Darren Cross wins, Captain Marvel remains on Earth, the Kree evade Earth, etc.

Justin Hammer becomes Detroit Steel.
 
GarrixianXD said:
Marvel What If... season 2 in a nutshell:
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Gave her a sequel episode, put her in 1602 for some reason, and she got to appear in the finale (Guardians of the Multiverse that got to appear in the finale Captain Carter as the main character, Strange Supreme as the main villain, and Killmonger who appeared for like five seconds)

They didn't make use of Celestial Quill, Hela, or Wen Wu when they would've made more sense to fight Strange than Carter. Kahhori is fine, really like her abilities and story.
 
CharlesZaGreat said:
Gave her a sequel episode, put her in 1602 for some reason, and she got to appear in the finale (Guardians of the Multiverse that got to appear in the finale Captain Carter as the main character, Strange Supreme as the main villain, and Killmonger who appeared for like five seconds)

They didn't make use of Celestial Quill, Hela, or Wen Wu when they would've made more sense to fight Strange than Carter. Kahhori is fine, really like her abilities and story.
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Making Strange the main villain was a sin honestly.
 
darkphantom9805 said:
So does anyone have a list of all the changes that s2 will bring to characters
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The most notable are:

*Strange Supreme gets: Multiple Selves type 1 to go with his type 3, Clairvoyance via the Sanctum Infinitum and additional jurisdiction for his preparation with The Forge and Sanctum Infinitum.

*Kahhori gets: most if not all the P&A of the space stone plus type 1 immortality, SPC, acrobatics, light manipulation, aura, weapon mastery, cosmic awareness (or ESP), free movement plus Mjölnir and the Ten Rings as optional equipment. Possibly AD too lol!

*Captain Carter gets: most if not all of the P&A of the Infinity Gauntlet as well as the individual stones plus Hela's crown, Gungnir and various other of weapons as optional equipment.

Other additions:

*Sacred timeline Peter Quill and Ego get additional feats and details of their P&A thanks to their variants.

*The Ten Rings likely get scaling to other god tier weapons like Mjölnir and retroactively buffs it's users like Shang Chi.

*Hela's crown apparently works like her brother's hammer in terms of being a godly weapon that can also grant powers (essentially doubling down on what The Collector established in S1).

Misc:

*Profiles for Kahhori, Kid Quill, Hulk Hogan, Hydra Stomper Steve and possible profiles for King Thor, Edgerunner Nebula, Variant Killmonger and Worthy Hela.

*New "infinity" key for Captain Carter.

*Discussing the absolute clusterfuck of updating the scaling chain post S2 including possible upgrades and/or downgrades good luck with that peeps!

There's probably some stuff I've forgotten but meh...
 
The_Axiom_of_Virgo said:
The most notable are:

*Strange Supreme gets: Multiple Selves type 1 to go with his type 3, Clairvoyance via the Sanctum Infinitum and additional jurisdiction for his preparation with The Forge and Sanctum Infinitum.

*Kahhori gets: most if not all the P&A of the space stone plus type 1 immortality, SPC, acrobatics, light manipulation, aura, weapon mastery, cosmic awareness (or ESP), free movement plus Mjölnir and the Ten Rings as optional equipment. Possibly AD too lol!

*Captain Carter gets: most if not all of the P&A of the Infinity Gauntlet as well as the individual stones plus Hela's crown, Gungnir and various other of weapons as optional equipment.

Other additions:

*Sacred timeline Peter Quill and Ego get additional feats and details of their P&A thanks to their variants.

*The Ten Rings likely get scaling to other god tier weapons like Mjölnir and retroactively buffs it's users like Shang Chi.

*Hela's crown apparently works like her brother's hammer in terms of being a godly weapon that can also grant powers (essentially doubling down on what The Collector established in S1).

Misc:

*Profiles for Kahhori, Kid Quill, Hulk Hogan, Hydra Stomper Steve and possible profiles for King Thor, Edgerunner Nebula, Variant Killmonger and Worthy Hela.

*New "infinity" key for Captain Carter.

*Discussing the absolute clusterfuck of updating the scaling chain post S2 including possible upgrades and/or downgrades good luck with that peeps!

There's probably some stuff I've forgotten but meh...
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Just give TK to Sacred Timeline Peter Quill ngl Kid Quill had it
 
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