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MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread
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Spinoirr
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Hope he Beats the tar out of that bobble head mf
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watching rn
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Strange Supreme calls Watcher a 5-dimensional being, which i think would be consistent with Watchers statement from I Am Groot Season 2?
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Yup....feats feats feats
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Uhhhhh
Carter has plot armor beyond comprehension, punching Strange Supreme in his unleashed form at the end; crazy. He was actually turned into a jobber and then died. I am both pumped up by and pissed off at this episode. Carter is just that person. Wanda and Steven think she's the bell of the ball. It's interesting to see that stone users really don't all amp themselves. We know Ultron did via confirmation, but Erik gets his armor snatched after dusting Thanos. Carter really said "I'm actually better than everyone else" with that armor line. Literally perfect and every way without a flaw. Season 1 of What If? had understandable scaling, but this season really is "cartoon fun". Granted, even the Wenwu varient had some differences (white hair), so that's just his specific power level. Same with that King Thor with the fully glowing Mjolnir. Kahori went from being cannon level, to above Thanos level, to Abstracts level, just by having Space Stone energy. She's just a better Captain Marvel who a super soldier can tangle with. A super soldier who never amps her shield that withstands what we know should be solar stem destroying attacks.
A Captain Marvel varient punched Vision after his awful aim did nothing. That one God Hulk's weapon can harm Strange Supreme. Eternal Flame Hela was such a tease.
Carter has plot armor beyond comprehension, punching Strange Supreme in his unleashed form at the end; crazy. He was actually turned into a jobber and then died. I am both pumped up by and pissed off at this episode. Carter is just that person. Wanda and Steven think she's the bell of the ball. It's interesting to see that stone users really don't all amp themselves. We know Ultron did via confirmation, but Erik gets his armor snatched after dusting Thanos. Carter really said "I'm actually better than everyone else" with that armor line. Literally perfect and every way without a flaw. Season 1 of What If? had understandable scaling, but this season really is "cartoon fun". Granted, even the Wenwu varient had some differences (white hair), so that's just his specific power level. Same with that King Thor with the fully glowing Mjolnir. Kahori went from being cannon level, to above Thanos level, to Abstracts level, just by having Space Stone energy. She's just a better Captain Marvel who a super soldier can tangle with. A super soldier who never amps her shield that withstands what we know should be solar stem destroying attacks.
A Captain Marvel varient punched Vision after his awful aim did nothing. That one God Hulk's weapon can harm Strange Supreme. Eternal Flame Hela was such a tease.
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How many times has Surtur said "I am Asgards doom!" at this point
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I think we all expected more when we saw Loki's ygdrasil on the trailer
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It's not the ideal of copium. Marvel Main Universe has being Earth 616 ever since 1949. MCU was designated Earth 199999 but change recently to Earth 616. The Marvel comics also call MCU Earth 19999. Just imagine having two Earth 1610. It doesn't have to affect MCU. No Universe is Meant to have The same number of Earth designation. They don't share the same Multiverse don't they can't have same Earth Number.
Just imagine now that MCU is called Earth 616, how will the comics call MCU next time they want to make reference it?
I would be nice if they can hire so anime animators.
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We can see that Hela, who has time-stop resistance, but she doesn't really have time-stop resistance. It's time to downgrade
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I was referring to Kahori blocking attacks from Strange when she just went just above Wanda, who is just above her Endgame self, and to Carter using her shield to block attacks and actually affect Strange with her punches. A super soldier punched a universe ender and did something. Grabbing all of the stones with her bare hand and actually no selling their effects is the icing on the cake.
Yeah, it was the space stone. My point is not all stone users have increased durability or hax resustance, like how Ronan took the Hadron Enforcer.
Yeah, it was the space stone. My point is not all stone users have increased durability or hax resustance, like how Ronan took the Hadron Enforcer.
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Yeah so he was definitely a jobber like I said
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There may have been a lot of inconsistencies but i will at least give the episode props for having it so that Carter and Kahhori needed a bunch of magical doo-hickejs to stand a chance against Strange
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No you werent you very specifically said Carter pounching Strange noy Kahori blocking Strange.
Did you realize that Carter was using the power stone to amp her shield?
Strange destroyed a universe with enviromental destruction after affecting time many times, and Strange can block universal attacks but that doesnt mean his physical resistance is universal only that he knew spells that are that resistant a spell that requires preparation and he never used now.
Did you realize that Carter was using the power stone to amp her shield?
Strange destroyed a universe with enviromental destruction after affecting time many times, and Strange can block universal attacks but that doesnt mean his physical resistance is universal only that he knew spells that are that resistant a spell that requires preparation and he never used now.
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Just finished watching What If... Strange Supreme Intervened?
So I guess Infinity Armor Captain Carter and Kahhori at her peak are getting Low 1-C scaling then? Kahhori's scaling seems a bit inconsistent overall, though I'm not sure whether or not she should have a variable tier.
Strange Supreme captured a large number of heroes and "universe killers" offscreen.
The Watcher being a fifth dimensional being is restated.
So I guess Infinity Armor Captain Carter and Kahhori at her peak are getting Low 1-C scaling then? Kahhori's scaling seems a bit inconsistent overall, though I'm not sure whether or not she should have a variable tier.
Strange Supreme captured a large number of heroes and "universe killers" offscreen.
The Watcher being a fifth dimensional being is restated.
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lol no strange should just get downgraded they showed us he’s a fraud and his fight with ultron should be PIS since he stated himself he’s not the watcher level who got stomped by ultron
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Maybe you could chalk Kahhori's inconsistency to her powers developing off-screen? i dunno
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She got powers from 1 stone there’s physically no way she should be above all
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idk man rule of cool
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Y’all just need to how off the copium and accept strange entire fight against ultron was PIS and jobbing he never downscaled and this episode shows it
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Dude, she is never shown to amp her shield, nore does she start off with the stones. It may be disingenuous to call Strange's attacks universal, but the point is his AP is still far above the level characters like Thanos or Wanda can produce/take. Strange has shields, which is why he'd be highly durable. His unleashed form is an amalgamation of being with incredible power that exceeds that or a super soldier. Carter was punching him and actually do something.
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When did she shows to be above all infinity stones? She was mostly running from Strange attacks, and Strange himself was much more busy fighting Carter
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Taking many of strange attacks and harming him also his demon form was getting beat up by base carter lol
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Remember when Strange's power allowed Thor to take out Infinity Ultron's arm. Because I do.
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Yeah when ultron was missing a stone lol
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True, but still. Ultron is still that guy, even without a stone.
I just realized Erik having the Mind Stone doesn't necessarily have to be a mistake, but that Arnim Zola lost.
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So I'm supposed to believe this is the normal shield?
His unleashed form is a monster which Strange has little control of, he might be physically superior in that form but it doesnt mean the monster has the same magic as Strange seen as he never used any
His unleashed form is a monster which Strange has little control of, he might be physically superior in that form but it doesnt mean the monster has the same magic as Strange seen as he never used any
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I think what if just needs to stop the Peggy wank their love for Peggy is so strong they are throwing all scaling out the window
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So I'm supposed to believe this is the normal shield?
His unleashed form is a monster which Strange has little control of, he might be physically superior in that form but it doesnt mean the monster has the same magic as Strange seen as he never used any
There she amps it, but again, the shield can take attacks even without the stones. You genemuineky believe the form where Strange displays his absolute strength in both seasons is the one where he has lesser defenses by an astromical degree, from way above nuclear level (powerful) down to like building level or whatever super soldiers are. I just don't understand that perspective.
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Again she never took many attacks from Strange mostly she just runs away, the little times she actually gets some attacks it's just some monster hands or parts showing up on the wall to stop her running.
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She is now a comic character. She transcends the MCU.
Peggy is love. Peggy is life.
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i think Peggy's scaling in this episode was fine besides that scene at the end with her punching Beast Strange, she was using Infinite Stones for most of the fight and was still struggling so that doesn't sound too bad
Kahhori's the bigger scaling problem in this episode
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Let's see
Using Hela's helmet? Check
Infinity stones glowing? Check
Base Carter? Not Check
Using Hela's helmet? Check
Infinity stones glowing? Check
Base Carter? Not Check
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I want some scaling that puts watcher above Loki
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Should we tone down Hela resistance because she really can't resist time stop and back time
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Uh, ok. It seems like Carter started off the episode with the Heart of the Universe too.Let's see
Using Hela's helmet? Check
Infinity stones glowing? Check
Base Carter? Not Check
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Why not just have him be a peer? He can just look at Loki, ergo they're on the same boat. Or in this case, the same tree.
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Just cause he’s aware of the tree doesn’t make him anywhere near his level Loki is like a step above by feats
