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MCU: High 6-C to 6-B Upgrades

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MARVEL_Future_Fight_Gamer said:
He tanked only one punch from Hulk and it sent him flying

He was damaged by the combined efforts of a weaker Thor, Vision and Iron Man after an extended period of time
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Ultron took a direct hit from some who would be 200x stronger than him while his armor was damaged.

Ultron is made of the same vibranium that the spire that holds Sokovia, Thor is allegedly capable of cracking it while weakened (Which is false), so logically it he can damage ultron.

They were melting the armor yes, but that is a result of their energy which is still part of their AP, heat is not some special source that is complety above the force they can muster.

Iron man is a complete non factor btw, the different between their aps should say so.
 
It_is_i_wyatt said:
didnt thor himself blow up sokovia with his own power, so the explosion that knocked him out would just scale to however strong thor is
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I guess so
It_is_i_wyatt said:
it just means thor going all out on an attack can momentarily knock himself out
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Was Thor ever confirmed to be knocked out at all? I'm pretty sure he came out of the explosion uninjured
 
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Newendigo said:
Ultron took a direct hit from some who would be 200x stronger than him while his armor was damaged.
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Said blow from Hulk didn't damage the already-damaged armor any further other than make sparks fly, but no shards or dents. Ultron no longer being able to fly was because his systems were melted away prior.

Newendigo said:
Ultron is made of the same vibranium that the spire that holds Sokovia, Thor is allegedly capable of cracking it while weakened (Which is false), so logically it he can damage ultron.
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Only by going at full power but as we have seen, he was visibly having difficulty getting a good shot at Ultron and ended up in a chokehold instead.

Newendigo said:
They were melting the armor yes, but that is a result of their energy which is still part of their AP, heat is not some special source that is complety above the force they can muster.
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Okay and? How does that affect scaling again? It took their combined might to pull off.

Newendigo said:
Iron man is a complete non factor btw, the different between their aps should say so.
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Sure.
 
Also, in case no one's noticed, the drones tired out the crew, and then there's Ultron's beatdown of Thor and the Beam Struggle which would've undoubtedly taxed both Tony and Thor. The deleted scene is completely irrelevant to this. Nothing states that they couldn't have tired out during the fight manhandling so many drones and Ultron himself.
 
Eseseso said:
Why are we all discussing Sokovia's explosion when it's literally being replaced by a new and higher calc?
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Because @Newendigo is arguing that this feat is an outlier or rather contradicts thor being knocked out by something 200x weaker than him apparently so we're discussing that because it's pretty clear Thor wasn't at 100% when he got knocked out briefly and didn't get scathed by it
 
IIRC 6-B+ is 53.5 gigatons, which is only 1.35x above the calc for Thor.

Should Thanos and those on his level upscale for stomping a Thor who is far stronger than when he did this calc?
 
Eseseso said:
IIRC 6-B+ is 53.5 gigatons, which is only 1.35x above the calc for Thor.

Should Thanos and those on his level upscale for stomping a Thor who is far stronger than when he did this calc?
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That's too much of an upscale
 
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