[MCU] Canon to the Comics/High 1-B Meta. Massively controversial topic

[Naeem0304]

Canon crossover evidence
MCU

This December, behold the adventures of the agency tasked with upholding the timestream in TVA! Just announced by Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige and Marvel Comics Editor-in-Chief C.B. Cebulski at the Marvel Fanfare Panel at San Diego Comic-Con, TVA will be a five-issue limited comic book series written by Marvel Studios’ Loki writer Katharyn Blair and drawn by acclaimed Marvel artist Pere Perez (CARNAGE, EDGE OF SPIDER-VERSE).

The series will represent an evolution for the Marvel Comics’ version of the TVA as it is blended with its Marvel Cinematic Universe counterpart, as depicted in the Disney+ series Loki and Deadpool & Wolverine. The series will mark the Marvel Comics debut of various MCU characters, including breakout Loki star Miss Minutes.

The mysterious all-knowing entity who keeps the TVA ticking like clockwork will recruit a new band of heroes charged with monitoring and regulating all realities and timelines. Join Ghost-Spider and other universe-displaced entities including Captain Carter, a heartbroken Remy LeBeau, and more as they’re sent throughout the Multiverse on vital missions to repair wild temporal anomalies and keep reality itself from shattering!

“I love this idea,” shared Feige. “It’s just as cool for us to see our work in comics as it is to bring the work of comic book creators to the big screen.”
Check out the newly revamped TVA on superstar artist Pepe Larraz’s cover and stay tuned for news about the series in the months ahead!

(Source: Marvel Website)

• States that the TVA is from the MCU.

For more info, check out the current Spider-Gwen: The Ghost-Spider series to see how O.B. got Gwen wrapped up in TVA business! --JDW

(Source: TVA Issue #1)

• Acknowledges the Ghost-Spider comic-line as a part of this continuity.

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THE BREAKOUT CHARACTER FROM THE DISNEY+ WHAT IF...? SHOW MAKES HER COMICS DEBUT! The Mohawk warrior Kahhori fell into Sky World and into our hearts from her first appearance fighting invaders to her home. She's already helped save all of reality from a demented Doctor Strange and secured peace in her own world… So what NOW? Co-creator and award-winning storyteller Ryan Little launches Kahhori into the 616! Featuring exciting guest stars and the comics debuts of some extraordinary creators, Marvel's Voices brings you an extra-special anthology celebrating Indigenous heritage and one of the most exciting characters to emerge from the MCU!

Unlike the other characters in this list, Kahhori is not just inspired by her silver screen counterpart; she actually is the same character from Marvel Animations’ What If…? series.

After the destruction of Asgard in a distant reality, the Space Stone crashed onto Earth and created a portal in the Forbidden Lake in the Haudenosaunee Confederacy. While evading Spanish conquistadors, Kahhori fell into the lake and traveled to Sky World, a dimension where the Infinity Stone’s power flowed through its inhabitants.

Through exposure to the Space Stone, Kahhori wielded cosmic power, gaining numerous physical abilities including super-strength, super-speed, and enhanced agility. With her new powers, Kahhori protects the Mohawk people in Sky World and back home on Earth.

Now, Kahhori travels the Multiverse to the main Marvel Universe in the comics, where she finds herself stranded in Hell’s Kitchen.

(Source: Kahhori: Reshaper of Worlds/Marvel Website) (Source: Marvel Comics Characters inspired by the MCU/Marvel Website)

• States that Kahhori "is the same character from Marvel Animations’ What If…? series."
• This would apply as crossover evidence for Comics 616 too; it states that "Kahhori travels the Multiverse to the main Marvel Universe in the comics."

Comics 616

When teenager Gwen Stacy suits up in her synthetic symbiotic suit and web-shooters, she gains amazing powers: a "Spider-Sense" that warns her of danger, the ability to stick to walls with her adhesive finger tips and toes, the proportional speed and strength of a spider, and the ability to throw and swing from webs, she also is a frequent traveler of the Multiverse, often landing in Earth-616. But recently Gwen had to flee her home, Earth-65, permanently relocate to Earth-616, and abandon her life as a super hero, but you may still know her as... Spider Gwen: The Ghost Spider. Gwen Stack has traveled to other dimensions, battled clones, and saved Dazzler from the deranged scientist and super-fan Bruce Banner of Earth-65. Now she's a teenager girl without a past and with an uncertain future as a newly permanent resident of Earth-616.

(Source: Spider Gwen: The Ghost Spider Vol 1)

This is what Ouroboros (who's from the MCU series Loki) said to Gwen while in Earth-616:

OB: First off, let me say you're not in trouble... though you did breach almost all of the terms that were required for you to be placed under the protection of the T.V.A. in less than a week.

Gwen says this:

T.V.A. stands for the Time Variance Authority. They're a group of annoyingly bureaucratic nerds in charge of monitoring all of the different realities throughout time and space.

And the TVA was the reason for why Gwen was sent to Earth 616:

OB: We considered that was a risk-- your relationships with the heroes of this earth-- when we chose this location... but...

And OB was able to use the tempad to travel from the comics 616 universe back to the TVA

(The two upper scans are from Web of Spider-Man which reveals how O.B. even got into contact with Gwen)

What Comics-616 is to the MCU

FOR ALL TIMES, ALWAYS! The Time Variance Authority has long watched over the timeline, protecting it from dangerous variations that could cause the end of EVERYTHING. Now, as the organization begins to expand its tolerance of variants, it's enlisted some new recruits from timelines that have been wiped from existence: Captain Peggy Carter, Super-Soldier of her world; Gambit, despondent and aimless from the loss of his lady love; and…this can't be right…Spider-Gwen?!? Has her world been destroyed?!? Writer Katharyn Blair (LOKI Season Two) and artist Pere Pérez (CARNAGE, SPIDER-WOMAN) bring a touch of cinematic flair to the bureaucracy at the end of time!

Gwen: I'm actually hiding out here after an incident on my home timeline...

• Gwen calls Earth-65 a 'timeline', and the official article excerpt for the TVA comic states "it's enlisted some new recruits from timelines that have been wiped from existence", whilst including the former as possibly having her timeline being destroyed.

The official Marvel Website says this about Earth-65 (source linked here)

With various acclaimed solo series and appearances on both the big and small screen, Gwen Stacy of Earth-65, aka Ghost-Spider, has proven to be one of Marvel’s biggest breakout heroes of the decade!

Hailing from an alternate Earth where the fateful radioactive Spider bit Gwen instead of Peter Parker, Ghost-Spider weaved her way into the main Marvel Universe, calling both dimensions home… until now! Launching in April, a new run of SPIDER-GWEN: THE GHOST-SPIDER will make Gwen a permanent resident of the iconic 616!

Ghost-Spider’s new era will be delivered by two rising Marvel Comics stars: writer Stephanie Phillips (CAPWOLF & THE HOWLING COMMANDOS) and artist Chris Campana (RED GOBLIN). Kicking off with Gwen trapped in the 616 by mysterious otherworldly forces, the young hero’s fresh status quo will open the door to exciting new storytelling opportunities as she struggles to adjust in a world that's not her own, and is forced to confront the tragic legacy of 616’s own Gwen. Hitting the ground running as New York’s next great super hero, she’ll gain both new enemies and new friends, but the secret behind her current circumstance looms large, threatening to shatter her trust with her fellow Spider-Heroes…

Welcome to New York! Gwen truly becomes a Ghost-Spider when she moves full time to the universe where Gwen Stacy died years ago. But why did she leave Earth-65? Why aren’t the other spiders supposed to know she’s here? Why isn’t she supposed to suit up? And who will get hurt when she does?

"Right after I started working on this new SPIDER-GWEN ongoing, I saw a little girl on Halloween dressed as Gwen and hitting some cool Spidey poses,” Phillips shared. “It was kind of a surreal moment to realize that I get to be a part of Gwen's next big chapter, bringing her into the 616 and giving readers stories that make us rethink who Gwen is and what her role is within this new universe. I'm also working on this story with the incredible Chris Campana, a great collaborator and friend, and I truly believe this is one of the most special books I've been a part of."

"Stephanie’s writing allows for a ton of artistic freedom, while providing a great framework to work inside of," Campana added. "I was onboard the moment I heard she was attached."

"Drawing Gwen is surreal," he continued. "She is such a pivotal part of Spider history. This suit and her character allow for a fun and powerful artistic approach. Gwen feels strong and in control on the page. I’m having a lot of fun."

• Earth-65 is called an "alternate Earth" to the "main Marvel Universe".

For all anyone here knows, I don't have a place on the timeline anymore. But OB and I know the truth. I'm hiding here. And since I don't do "lie low" very well... we figured I might as well be useful.

(Source: Spider Gwen: The Ghost Spider Vol 1)

• This is specifically acknowledging the Ghost Spider and Web of Spider-Man events, in which OB took Gwen to Earth 616. This is a statement that Comics 616 is a timeline within the MCU.

More Timeline evidence:

(Source: Creating What If...?, Inside the TVA, and More!)

Interviewer: Yeah, can you tell us a little bit more about that, like who are these characters and where exactly in their do we find them. (In regards to Blair saying that the TVA is full of new people)

Katharyn Blair: They are characters that either don't have a timeline to return to, which we saw in the end of season two, there was an instance where a lot of these timelines got pruned, right. Blown up actually. So they don't have a place to go. So the question is whether or not they want to be rehomed, go somewhere else, find a completely different timeline, find a different, you know, reality for all we know with the MCU but they have chosen instead to stay here (TVA) and try and protect what's left and putting it all in this little Brigade of people who are just trying to keep freedom alive which is really cool. So we have Gambit, and this is a version of Gambit who didn't manage to save Rogue, so he's dealing with his own wounds. And then we have Spider-Gwen, Gwen Stacy, who is unable to return to her timeline, her timeline is still there but it's unable to accommodate her anymore, which is something that's explored in her most recent run, we also have Jimmy Hudson from the Ultimate Universe who is Wolverine's son so that's kind of a fun thing to play with in the TVA. And then we have Captain Carter who kind of comes and goes. She's one of the leaders of the team so she's very boots on the ground in various timelines to make sure things are protected. And we have B15 who we saw in Deadpool and Wolverine, kind of in her new suit, rocking it, has her own office now, so she's helping lead them all, so this team is just trying to honor Loki's sacrifice and trying to find a purpose in their own lives, because like, how do you find a purpose when you have no home, so trying to make a home out of wreckage, out of ashes, out of nothing is kind of a beautiful thing...

• "Find a completely different timeline, find a different, you know, reality for all we know with the MCU but they have chosen instead to stay here" while mentioning the fact that Gwen could not return to her timeline (which is Earth-65; established as an alternate Earth of comics 616.)
• The latter half of the paragraph states the team is "trying to honor Loki's sacrifice"; in context to him being responsible for why all of them are still alive.

How anyone scales to this?

• It's established that 'pruning' a timeline is another way of completely destroying it. The Kahhori, Spider Gwen and Web of Spider-Man comics contain events within 616; Kahhori is the same character from the MCU and the TVA in the new-line is from the MCU.
• In Loki Season 2, the Temporal Loom is what held the growing timelines together after He Who Remains' death, until Loki took it upon himself to hold the timelines himself.

The sub has already accepted this thread, and the real kicker is from here (credits to @ThanatosX for the following):

Than, we have OB saying that it’s impossible to Time Slip in the TVA (once again, Season 2, Episode 1, 23 minutes mark). However, he never says that this is impossible because a time axis doesn’t exist, and in fact he later corrects himself when he is proven wrong the moment that he realizes that Loki’s changes to the past actually affected the present too, clearly saying that it makes sense and that time travelling the TVA is actually possible.

And lastly, OB statement that Loki’s time travelled to a place with no time (Season 2, Episode 5, 13:50 mark). This is indeed correct … but we need to look at the context of this statement too. This was said immediately after the TVA was completely destroyed by the destruction of the Temporal Loom, which destroyed the time axis of the TVA too (more on that in the second section, more specifically on the part regarding the Temporal Loom), so in that moment the TVA had no time since the time it had was erased alongside everything else. And Loki did time travel to the TVA after it was destroyed at the beginning of episode 5, before anyone asks when he did so. This is also supported by his statement immediately after that he would be travelling to a place that no longer exists. Considering that OB knows that Loki can time travel, he could easily tell him that he needs to travel to before the destruction happened, instead he tells him that the TVA no longer existed, basically saying that, in a normal situation, even time travelling wouldn’t change anything since time in there no longer exists. In fact, rewatching that part, Loki specifically says that he needs to go back in time to before the destruction of the Temporal Loom and he says that he can’t because that place doesn’t exists anymore, further proving that time was destroyed in the explosion too. As we know, Loki does it anyway, but this is because his Time Travel is broken as I will talk about later on.
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• Loki was able to time travel to a place that had it's time destroyed, however, it was proven that the TVA had no means to do this at all.

Loki’s Time Powers: he was shown several time to be able to easily alter the time dimension of the Void at the End of Time, stopping it’s time with just a movement of his hand and repeatedly traveling throught it’s time axis to go back in time. So, every ability he have with the Time Slipping and in general his Time Powers should scale to 6-D.

• Loki was able to manipulate time on a higher level than the TVA (who can travel to comics-616.)

Conclusion

• To summarize, the Marvel Comics Universe is an accessible timeline to the TVA; the same organization that can destroy those timelines and travel "anywhere in time and space."
• The Marvel Comics Universe contains Subspace; a higher dimension that views infinite universes which is scaled to High 1-B.
• It's established the TVA monitors Comics-616 and can travel there across time and space.

Miss Minutes: "Because, we used to prune entire timelines in the name of the one sacred timeline. Then you and your buddy figured out that the timekeepers, the ones calling the shots, weren't real. Then that same buddy destroyed the temporal loom, freeing every timeline, and then B-15 let people decide to leave or stay. It's a mess."

(Source: TVA Vol 1)

• The Temporal Loom "freed every timeline". The Web of Spider-Man issue takes place after the conclusion of Loki Season 2, so Comics 616 is once again a confirmed timeline within the cosmology.
• This confirms that MCU Loki is holding up the comics 616 timeline. Since the timelines were freed after he destroyed the loom, he held them up.
• The TVA is capable of pruning (or destroying) entire timelines.

Loki Variant (L1130) and the Temporal Loom/TVA should qualify for a High 1-B or 1-A rating via range, AP, and time manipulation.

Agree:

Disagree:

Neutral:

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[ByArrow]

What about magic users and characters with astral forms?

 

[darkphantom9805]

What about magic users and characters with astral forms?

What about them?

 

[Excellence616]

What about them?

Marvel comics has a power system on how magic and astral powers work

The Temporal Loom "freed every timeline". The Web of Spider-Man issue takes place after the conclusion of Loki Season 2, so Comics 616 is once again a confirmed timeline within the cosmology.

It is MCU within 616 comics book

 

[ByArrow]

What about them?

Will magic users in the MCU receive the abilities and resistances of magic in marvel comics? Likewise, will Gods receive abilities and resistances of god physiology? Will characters who has astral form, receive abilities and resistances of astral form?

If not, why not? The OP needs to clarify this as well.

 

[Naeem0304]

What about magic users and characters with astral forms?

Asking the good stuff, I see
This thread is a baseline, so I decided to use the safest option. Assuming there's a continuation, this can 100% be added.

 

[Da3ggman]

Following this, but I’ll wait for more knowledgeable members on Marvel to give their opinions.

 

[darkphantom9805]

Asking the good stuff, I see
This thread is a baseline, so I decided to use the safest option. Assuming there's a continuation, this can 100% be added.

How are people like ultron not getting affected why only Loki they outclass kahhori abilities by ten fold ultron state’s boundaries are irrelevant or no

 

[Naeem0304]

How are people like ultron not getting affected why only Loki they outclass kahhori abilities by ten fold ultron state’s boundaries are irrelevant or no

I'm keeping this safe for right now.

 

[RoTt35]

I don't really have an opinion about the CRT but a note regarding this:

The TVA is capable of pruning (or destroying) entire timelines.

Pruning a timeline doesn't destroy it actually, it's transferred to the Void where it's devoured by Alioth, as stated in Loki:

When we prune a branched reality, it's impossible to destroy all of its matter. So we move it to a place on the timeline where it won't continue growing. Basically, the branched timeline isn't reset. It's transferred.

To where?

A void at the End of Time. Where every instance of existence collides at the same point and simply stops.

This is the place where the TVA dumps its rubbish, everything they prune. And Alioth, he ensures none of it ever returns.
It's a living tempest that consumes matter and energy. They send entire branched realities here that are devoured instantly.

 

[darkphantom9805]

Pruning a timeline doesn't destroy it actually, it's transferred to the Void where it's devoured by Alioth, as stated in Loki:

Yeah but aloith is fodder or no

 

[Naeem0304]

I don't really have an opinion about the CRT but a note regarding this:

Pruning a timeline doesn't destroy it actually, it's transferred to the Void where it's devoured by Alioth, as stated in Loki:

You're right. My fault.

 

[Naeem0304]

Yeah but aloith is fodder or no

He still consumes those timelines though.

@RoTt35 the TVA has the time ripper, so there's that timeline destroying weapon for them besides Alioth.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

I obviously agree since I even helped before.

Will magic users in the MCU receive the abilities and resistances of magic in marvel comics? Likewise, will Gods receive abilities and resistances of god physiology? Will characters who has astral form, receive abilities and resistances of astral form?

If not, why not? The OP needs to clarify this as well.

Regarding Magic I think it's possible, but I'm sure it will have lots of limitations, sorceror Supreme magic in the MCU is nothing like sorceror Supreme of the comics, even Strange and Wong would likely be pretty low magic users despite their ranks, I'm not the most knowledged on Marvel Magic but pretty sure that MCU's sorceror supreme doesn't represent the same it does for Comics.
About Gods I think it won't work at all, things like Asgard being a planet that is part of the MCU main universe are highly contradictory to the comics gods physiology.
This is my opinion.

 

[Antvasima]

Just a note that just because the MCU and Marvel Comics borrow ideas from each other, this does definitely not mean that they are canon to and cosmologically compatible with each other.

 

[ByArrow]

Just a note that just because the MCU and Marvel Comics borrow ideas from each other, this does definitely not mean that they are canon to and cosmologically compatible with each other.

Can you ping the staffs interested in Marvel and Mcu?

 

[Antvasima]

I think that it has been officially established that they are not canon to each other, and the cosmologies differ too much to work together, so I would personally rather save time by closing this thread.

 

[darkphantom9805]

I think that it has been officially established that they are not canon to each other, and the cosmologies differ too much to work together, so I would personally rather save time by closing this thread.

Not how it works at all nothing about the cosmologies say they aren’t canon to each of the other

like if head guys at marvel said yeah they are canon will we go nah marvel is wrong we are right cosmologies are to different so they aren’t canon obviously not

Marvel runs on creativity and possibly its established anything is possible in the multiverse and nothing is ruled out as impossible

Also closing the thread without actually addressing any of op points is bad behavior or no he spent all that time getting evidence at least show why he’s wrong

 

[Antvasima]

If the cosmological structures contradict each other, and multiversal events from Marvel Comics do not affect the MCU and vice versa, they logically cannot be compatible, just borrow ideas from each other.

Can somebody summarise the genuinely reliable evidence here please?

 

[Excellence616]

I think that it has been officially established that they are not canon to each other, and the cosmologies differ too much to work together, so I would personally rather save time by closing this thread.

Still ping staffs.

 

[Tomfer]

Not only I disagree with OP, I agree with Ant with just closing the thread outright.

 

[darkphantom9805]

Can y’all actually address op there should be a rule for anyone disagreeing they have to actually explain why and not just say disagree for their opinion to count to the thread

 

[darkphantom9805]

If the cosmological structures contradict each other, and multiversal events from Marvel Comics do not affect the MCU and vice versa, they logically cannot be compatible, just borrow ideas from each other.

There is no can’t be compatible that’s head canon you assuming doesn’t turn that into a fact just because you can’t think of a way for them to be compatible doesn’t make it non canon

Can somebody summarise the genuinely reliable evidence here please?

you didn’t even read it then how can you disagree and want to close threads if you don’t even bother reading op spent a long time making it and gathering evidence at least read it

 

[Antvasima]

I read through it, but do not find the evidence sufficiently compelling for such extremely drastic changes, unless the MCU regularly starts to reference and be affected by the comicbook stories, and Al Ewing's or Jonathan Hickman's current "omniversal" comicbook cosmologies are exactly adopted by the MCU.

The two settings just don't properly logically work together, and given the multiversal nature of Marvel Comics stories, it cannot be solved merely by a single timeline being inaccessible, even if a Spider-Gwen comicbook references a Marvel Comics timeline very similar to the MCU.

 

[Antvasima]

See here for some further information please:

Canon

Crossovers

 

[darkphantom9805]

The two settings just don't properly logically work together, and it cannot be solved merely by a single timeline being inaccessible, even if a Spider-Gwen comicbook references a Marvel Comics timeline very similar to the MCU.

did marvel state they don’t work together if not you can’t assume such things as a reason for why they can’t be canon just because you don’t know a way doesn’t mean marvel themselves don’t

 

[Antvasima]

Logic and our rules state that this doesn't work, especially if this has not been officially very widespread applied to either the MCU or Marvel Comics stories. My apologies, but I do not remotely have the available time to continue to argue here indefinitely.

 

[darkphantom9805]

Logic and our rules state that this doesn't work, especially if this has not been officially very widespread applied to either the MCU or Marvel Comics stories. My apologies, but I do not remotely have the available time to continue to argue here indefinitely.

There is no logic or rules that state mcu and marvel can’t be canon to each other you making that up show any marvel executives claiming such a rule exist

 

[Antvasima]

I have already explained why this does not work, and have no wish to repeat myself over and over.

 

[darkphantom9805]

I have already explained why this does not work, and have no wish to repeat myself over and over.

You didn’t you said it doesn’t work because you said so which is an assumption on your end rather then a fact you didn’t provide anything from marvel themselves saying it’s can’t be canon to each other and never will because some rule they made

 

[FentyBeauty]

idk if this is a question worth asking but

how would mcu america chavez having no variants work if the comics and mcu r in the same multiverse because we got america chavez in comics already so like if they’re both in the same multiverse then how would we deal with that

 

[Nierre]

I heavily disagree with closing this unless the points in the OP has been addressed and properly countered. I know nothing about Marvel so I can't give my inputs but I'd like to see knowledgeable members/staff come here and say their piece before this thread gets closed.

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

idk if this is a question worth asking but

how would mcu america chavez having no variants work if the comics and mcu r in the same multiverse because we got america chavez in comics already so like if they’re both in the same multiverse then how would we deal with that

Wasn't that basically debunked by virtue of her animated show counterparts existing?

 

[Antvasima]

I heavily disagree with closing this unless the points in the OP has been addressed and properly countered. I know nothing about Marvel so I can't give my inputs but I'd like to see knowledgeable members/staff come here and say their piece before this thread gets closed.

I have attempted to explain why this doesn't logically work in several posts.

 

[Nierre]

I have attempted to explain why this doesn't logically work in several posts.

Yet you haven't properly addressed the actual OP point by point.

Either way, we should still wait for other staffs and members who are experts on Marvel.

Who are the members? I can ping them

 

[Naeem0304]

Not only I disagree with OP, I agree with Ant with just closing the thread outright.

Do you have any reasons?

 

[Naeem0304]

Credits to the MCU wiki for everything said below (within the lines):

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With the release of the comic Kahhori: Reshaper of Worlds, the question has come up as to whether we should be covering the comic. Here are the relevant facts:

1. It is very evidently the same Kahhori. There is not a ton of question about this, the summary at the beginning of the comic features description of her precise activities in What If... Kahhori Reshaped the World? and What If... Strange Supreme Intervened?
2. The comic was worked on by Marvel Comics, of which Kevin Feige is Chief Creative Officer alongside his having the same title at Marvel Entertainment, Marvel Television, and, most pertinently, Marvel Animation. This contrasts his role of President at Marvel Studios
3. The comic opens with a foreword by one of Kahhori's creators, as well as an interview with her voice actor in What If...? I am specifically noting this here to explain that this is not particularly relevant, since both of these people are very relevant to the character and the interviews could have been here regardless of the MCU
4. The comic is released under a specific Marvel Comics banner, Marvel's Voices. This is a non-MCU banner designed to highlight the diversity of heroes within Marvel. This specific comic featured an Indigenous American superhero released during Indigineous Peoples Heritage Month
5. A variant cover using concept art for Kahhori from Marvel Animation which has the Marvel Animation logo on it

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The comic was specifically acknowledged on the Marvel Entertainment Podcast and Marvel Website article (which once again confirmed it was the same Kahhori.)

 

[Naeem0304]

Moreover, for the TVA comic (source linked here):

"This December, behold the adventures of the agency tasked with upholding the timestream in TVA! Just announced by Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige and Marvel Comics Editor-in-Chief C.B. Cebulski at the Marvel Fanfare Panel at San Diego Comic-Con, TVA will be a five-issue limited comic book series written by Marvel Studios' Loki writer Katharyn Blair and drawn by acclaimed Marvel artist Pere Perez (CARNAGE, EDGE OF SPIDER-VERSE).

"The series will represent an evolution for the Marvel Comics' version of the TVA as it is blended with its Marvel Cinematic Universe counterpart, as depicted in the Disney+ series Loki and Deadpool & Wolverine. The series will mark the Marvel Comics debut of various MCU characters, including breakout Loki star Miss Minutes.

"The mysterious all-knowing entity who keeps the TVA ticking like clockwork will recruit a new band of heroes charged with monitoring and regulating all realities and timelines. Join Ghost-Spider and other universe-displaced entities including Captain Carter, a heartbroken Remy LeBeau, and more as they're sent throughout the Multiverse on vital missions to repair wild temporal anomalies and keep reality itself from shattering!"

So that's Chief Creative Officer (typically describes the highest-ranking position of a creative team within a media company) with the Editor-in-Chief (the principal editor of a publication, responsible for managing editorial policies and the production of content) of Marvel Comics who both approved and announced the TVA comic.

 

[Excellence616]

Yet you haven't properly addressed the actual OP point by point.

Either way, we should still wait for other staffs and members who are experts on Marvel.

Who are the members? I can ping them

We have to tag both MCU and Marvel comic knowledgeable members.


MCU: @Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan, @CrimsonStarFallen @Js250476 @ArbitraryNumbers @Eficiente @CinnabarManx421 @The_King_of_Prudence @Revan_Laha @EMagoIorSouI @SheevShezarrine @Gilad_Hyperstar @Newendigo @Ican'tthinkof1goodname @Valiant_Abyss @Eseseso @ShadowWhoWalks @Excellence616


Marvel Comics: @Antvasima @Matthew_Schroeder @Eficiente @Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan @Tllmbrg @CrimsonStarFallen @Dark-Carioca @LordTracer @ObberGobb @Eseseso @ProfectusInfinity

 

[Excellence616]

I disagree.
Both Marvel Comics and MCU works differently and all the evidence are just taking things out of context by saying Marvel comics editors and Kelvin Feige are working together so they are canon.

1. Eternals were engineered genetically by the Celestials, while MCU version were "created".
2. Thor in Love and Thunder entering Eternity's realm of which by comics standard unless you are some sort of Higher level being or Nexus being, you can't enter.
3. Yggdrasil in Marvel Comics are planes of existence and it's High 1-B to 1-A. They exist in all multiverse. MCU Yggdrasil are just planet or small realms that aren't Infinite. Asgard and other god realms are High plane of existence while MCU Asgard isn't.
4. Even how Gods work is also different
5. Every Earth in Marvel Comics is a aspect of Eternity. Also, all Celestials in Marvel Comics do not have separate multiversal counterparts. Each Celestial exists across the Multiverse simultaneously as a single being split among interconnected aspects. They were also created by the First Firmament. They shattered the first firmament into the first multiverse, and began the multiversal cycles. The Celestials are involved in the creation of "new universes", including the Prime Marvel Universe. MCU celestials were not shown that way.
6. We also have events in Marvel comics relating to the First cosmos, second cosmos.... to seventh cosmos etc. None of those were references in the MCU.
7. How The IG works. (MCU IG damaging the wearer and comics own not damaging the wearer. MCU IG not working under UES, while Marvel Comics own work under UES.
8. Events of people recreating the Marvel comic Multiverse and MCU made no reference to that.

We need in-verse evidence from MCU and Marvel comics. i.e Al Ewing, Hickman or any other Marvel Comic writers would reference Loki affecting the timeline, or any other MCU events or Secret Wars or Incursion event would be stated to affect MCU.

How are we not sure that the "616" is just MCU's own version and We all know that authors statements can contradicts their own story.