Mash Burnedead and the Devil Host (Mash Burnedead vs Asta)

[AnAverageUsername]

Now that Mash has been revised, I figured this would be a great starting match, considering this is fair-ish now

Spade War Arc Asta is used and Mash is in Unlimited Physical Mode

Speed is equalized because having to dig through multiple profiles for Asta sucks

Mash is at 80 Teratons for this match at 6-B+

Asta starts off in True Devil Union at 53.5 Teratons

Mash Burnedead

Mash Burnedead is the protagonist of Mashle: Magic and Muscles and a student at Easton Magic Academy. Mash was born with no magic in a world where magic is the norm, where those without magic are persecuted and killed. In order to protect him, Mash’s adoptive father raised him far away from...

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Asta (Post-Timeskip)

Asta was left at an orphanage as an infant on the outskirts of the Clover Kingdom alongside another baby named Yuno. Excitable and outgoing, he dreams of becoming the Magic Emperor, the greatest mage in the kingdom. However, Asta is one of the rare few, if not the only one, to be born without...

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[LIFE_OF_KING]

Isn't True Devil Union vs Unlimited Physical Mode better?

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Isn't True Devil Union vs Unlimited Physical Mode better?

Yeah but apparently Devil Union, and I'm assuming True Devil union, only last 5 minutes. That's why I allowed Asta to be able to enter Devil Union while restricting Mash on case things don't turn out fair. And I'm pretty sure True Devil Union can be restricted? Since it goes from regular 6B to 6B+? Eh, hopefully that's allowed. If not, I'll just switch them to their higher keys.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

only last 5 minutes

To be fair, both will be at FTL speed, so 5 minutes would be an eternity in a battle without using the PIS from the manga

 

[AnAverageUsername]

To be fair, both will be at FTL speed, so 5 minutes would be an eternity in a battle without using the PIS from the manga

Yeah but the problem with that is that I don't want to dig through 10 profiles to find a speed calc.

Also should Black Clover supporters be called?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

• The middle FTL characters like Royal Knights Arc Base Asta are scaled 2x faster than the lowest FTL characters for intercepting an attack 2x faster than those characters (4.98c)
• The highest FTL characters like Royal Knights Arc Black Asta are scaled 2x faster than the middle FTL characters for countering attacks 2x faster than them (9.96c)
• The FTL+ characters are upscaled far higher than the highest FTL characters (10c)

It is easier to simply equalize the speed

 

[speedster352]

Asta fra

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Asta fra

Where is the FRA

 

[speedster352]

Where is the FRA

Never mind then

 

[CloverDragon03]

True Devil Union Asta vs. Unlimited Physical Mode Mash makes sense to do, both are 6-B+ (53.5 teratons vs. 80 teratons)

 

[Arkenis]

Asta do the swish swish and gg

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Where is the FRA

 

[AnAverageUsername]

True Devil Union Asta vs. Unlimited Physical Mode Mash makes sense to do, both are 6-B+ (53.5 teratons vs. 80 teratons)

Yeah, I'll change the keys if that's better. Please keep feeding me information, considering I know barely anything on Black Clover and only found this fitting, considering both series get compared to eachother.

So what do you think of the match now?

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Density Manipulation (Can crush his own muscles to increase the density of his body, which makes him more resistant against piercing attacks[16])

GG Asta, you get countered

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

what

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

what

Asta uses swords

Mash can improve his resistance to piercings attacks and has more AP

= 0 Damage

 

[Arkenis]

Asta uses swords

Mash can improve his resistance to piercings attacks and has more AP

= 0 Damage

what if he slashes instead of pierces

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

what if he slashes instead of pierces

Sorry, I thought piercing also includes slashing for a moment

 

[Arkenis]

Sorry, I thought piercing also includes slashing for a moment

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

The body becomes dense, and then becomes resistant to attacks with weapons that cut, such as knives and spears. But this doesn't mean invulberability, since Mash is still cut

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Okay, Mash naturally scales massively above 80 teratons, has a million times larger LS, extreme speed amplifiers, greater versatility and skill.

Besides abilities like regeneration, shockwave creation and predictive analytics that work on things much faster than Mash

Does Asta have a wincon?

 

[AnAverageUsername]

That's what I'm waiting for

I really hope this isn't a stomp, this match has always been thematic given how people compare Mashle to Black Clover

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

That's what I'm waiting for

I really hope this isn't a stomp, this match has always been thematic given how people compare Mashle to Black Clover

I started the manga today just to negate that fact

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Seth solos both anyway

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Well in case if Mash has too many advantages, would it be ok to switch around the keys and stats again? and if so, which one's would be fair?

 

[Arkenis]

This is a sad case of ap stomp. 80 to 53 is big enough I think for Asta to end up getting bullied in the long run. I'm not exactly sure how Mash works but is he using magic at all? If not then this is just a mismatch/stomp since Asta's main thing is to neg magic.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

This is a sad case of ap stomp. 80 to 53 is big enough I think for Asta to end up getting bullied in the long run. I'm not exactly sure how Mash works but is he using magic at all? If not then this is just a mismatch/stomp since Asta's main thing is to neg magic.

aww man. Well, what if I used one of Asta's H7A keys and Mash's 7A key? Though that would be a remake of the last Mash vs Asta thread, which didn't get traction at all.

 

[Arkenis]

aww man. Well, what if I used one of Asta's H7A keys and Mash's 7A key? Though that would be a remake of the last Mash vs Asta thread, which didn't get traction at all.

Yea just seems like a mismatch altogether. Maybe him vs some other magic user is better

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

aww man. Well, what if I used one of Asta's H7A keys and Mash's 7A key? Though that would be a remake of the last Mash vs Asta thread, which didn't get traction at all.

Use Hary Glory if anything

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Asta's H7A keys and Mash's 7A key

This is not possible, I suppose.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Yea just seems like a mismatch altogether. Maybe him vs some other magic user is better

yeah, that'd probably be better.

Use Hary Glory if anything

Who? Oh wait, I should probably just look him up, huh

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Well, looks like this can be closed. Sad to see this fight isn't going to be possible.

 

[KobsterHope07]

If you're looking for other magic users to put Mash up against, then I suppose Fairy Tail could work. I recall there are some 7-A characters like Natsu or Mard Geer

 

[rawXDglomp]

I think Azrael (blazblue) v mash, both with limiters, could be an interesting thematic fight, maybe. They're both 6-b, both refuse to use their verses main methods of fighting, both primarily close ranged, both nice guys.
If you want magic users specifically though, its hard, since magic users tend to be obnoxiously hax.
Also hard to tell since so much of Mash's profile (I think he was getting a reworked one? I hope this isn't the reworked one) is just 'varies'

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Mashle having preception manipulation by choking someone out has got to be one of the funniest things I’ve seen this week.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Mashle having preception manipulation by choking someone out has got to be one of the funniest things I’ve seen this week.

To be frank, it did cause Cell to hallucinate a creampuff party.

Anyways this thread should be closed considering it's a stomp.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

To be frank, it did cause Cell to hallucinate a creampuff party.

Hallucinations are symptoms of hypoxia and not Mash’s “preception manipulation”

also yeah I don’t see Asta winning this for now. sayonara!