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Marvel vs Capcom Discussion Thread

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Well Ruby Heart's Ship is High 5-A I guess.
 
Oliver_de_jesus said:
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Marvel villains use magic to disguise as marvel heroes and invade the capcom world, this causes the capcom side to see every marvel hero as an enemy and they go to the marvel world to attack.

BTW Dhalsim and Hayato should get upgraded for fighting Venom and Spiral, guile also gets better reasoning than "was trained by nash" cause he fights juggernaunt. Spiral should also get illusions via her magic cause she was the one who made the capcom side think they were fighitng the Marvel heroes.
 
Knifeman29 said:
Marvel villains use magic to disguise as marvel heroes and invade the capcom world, this causes the capcom side to see every marvel hero as an enemy and they go to the marvel world to attack.

BTW Dhalsim and Hayato should get upgraded for fighting Venom and Spiral, guile also gets better reasoning than "was trained by nash" cause he fights juggernaunt. Spiral should also get illusions via her magic cause she was the one who made the capcom side think they were fighitng the Marvel heroes.
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Knifeman29 said:
Marvel villains use magic to disguise as marvel heroes and invade the capcom world, this causes the capcom side to see every marvel hero as an enemy and they go to the marvel world to attack.

BTW Dhalsim and Hayato should get upgraded for fighting Venom and Spiral, guile also gets better reasoning than "was trained by nash" cause he fights juggernaunt. Spiral should also get illusions via her magic cause she was the one who made the capcom side think they were fighitng the Marvel heroes.
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Send the scans?
 
Does anyone here have any sufficient reasoning as to why Zangief, Wesker, Sir Arthur, etc etc. don't scale to Galactus? I've looked all over the verse's profile and the pages, I cannot find any.
 
StoneKillerz12 said:
Does anyone here have any sufficient reasoning as to why Zangief, Wesker, Sir Arthur, etc etc. don't scale to Galactus? I've looked all over the verse's profile and the pages, I cannot find any.
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Because they haven't defeated Galactus or showcased any scaling to the High 5-A cast
 
Pyro9278

Thread 'AP and LS against Absolute Speed (Dante VS Sonic)'

- The Speed is not Equal.

- Dante has access to Heroes & Heralds Cards, Devil Trigger, and starts with the X Factor activated.

- Sonic has 10 Rings, he has access to the invincibility monitor and the fire monitor. Restricted to High 5-A.

- SBA for the rest.

Dante (1645 Ronnatons):
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Sonic (160 Ronnatons):
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Another addition for character pages, helluva nice. (remixes already got videos; just need to check the whole comic and perhaps make a small CRT based on earlier notes from that here)

 
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So yeah, here's the sandbox with every feat I can find in the one-shot comic. I've shared a Internet Archive link inside it in case somebody wants to clarify or edit (especially scaling-wise).

(@Lonkitt's still active on a forum despite rarely participating in the wiki these days; wonder if he'll see this)
 
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Tonygameman said:
(@Lonkitt's still active on a forum despite rarely participating in the wiki these days; wonder if he'll see this)
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I've actually got a suggestion regarding the Pre-Order comic stuff if we wanna tackle a revision

Why not also include the Punisher stuff since thats pretty blatantly canon to the verse now?
 
Ser_Hakim_Dayne said:
This could possibly give additional information on the Captain Commando, Strider Hiryu, Mega Man and Jin pages.
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Separate high-quality illustrations can be found here, but some of those are likely only jokes (most particularly Mega Man's; as impressive as Saotome Punch's description sounds, I wouldn't take it seriously). Freakin' love Cyborg 009's artstyle on Strider.

Few High 5-A characters in MvC, perhaps MvC2 and a pre-order comic (Doom's barriers are very potent) could get resistances out of CapCom's gauntlets (updating his goggles' range & Cyclops' optic blasts), though.
 
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Ser_Hakim_Dayne said:
Wait, can you read Japanese? I made a translation request for Captain Commando's.
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I've used Google Lens for that.
  • Captain Arm (Gauntlets) - We'll fight with 500,000 degree flames and 100,000 volts of electricity!
  • Captain Eye (Goggles) - Even in pitch black night, it can spot an enemy 200 kilometers away.
  • Captain Heart (Protector) - Is so warm. (yeah, this one isn't usable)
  • Captain Legs (Boots) - Kick it out with 100,000 horsepower. Beat the bad guys! (could be added on a equipment description)
For Mega Man (warned about this part being more of a joke), the Rock Drill can pierce 69 cm thick urethane alloy at 690,000 rpm (72256 m/s) and Rock Tonkachi's a 690,000-ton urethane alloy hammer. (he's already FTL and Class Y, so they really don't matter)

Hiryu can move freely in the water thanks to special training, his Cypher's plasma power can split even a tank in half, Hiryu Dash runs faster than the Shinkansen (already FTL) and the soles of his shoes have suction cups that allow him to stick perfectly to any wall.

Jin's Saotome Kick is powerful enough to take down giant robots, Blodia's apparently the only one left of it's kind, and Saotome Punch apparently "sends the enemy flying to the ends of the galaxy" (whatever I said in my previous post).
 
Rather skill-wise, but perhaps not entirely outscaling. A intelligence section on his page already has that fact placed as "the supreme hero" from MvC1's PlayStation or Dreamcast manual. (seeing your plans on his verse, I think Scumocide should need a page as well)
 
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Tonygameman said:
Few High 5-A characters in MvC, perhaps MvC2 and a pre-order comic (Doom's barriers are very potent) could get resistances out of CapCom's gauntlets (updating his goggles' range & Cyclops' optic blasts), though.
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Unless, like Self-Sustenance for the MvC3 cast, Fire and Electricity resistances will be universal to those of MvC:COSH and MvC2's. (plus Thor, US Agent, Arthur and Anita since assists can be hit)
 
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Wouldn't take higher scaling, but The Imp-ress just published a page for Jubilee. (at least Michelle could get it based on her fight with Blackheart in the comic; that moment when an assist scales over Onslaught, though a chain could get updated from what Lonkitt's probably planning with my notes)
 
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Lonkitt said:
Why not also include the Punisher stuff since thats pretty blatantly canon to the verse now?
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Also, let's talk Punisher feats:


The first three feats are really the focus here
 
If rocket launchers weren't cut from the game outside that cutscene, we would've probably gotten a more consistent 9-A rating. (ridiculous reaction upgrade for low/mid-tiers once Guardroid's lasers get calculated, which may not even matter with equalized matches)

Lonkitt said:
All the High 6-B characters are portrayed as comparable to each other (ex. Jin and Jill). They’re also vastly stronger than the absolute fodder of the verse (Phoenix Wright and Dan) while certainly much weaker than the high tiers of the verse (High 5-A characters)

This stuff’s been covered in the past
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(sorry for tagging, but this is for Hakim)
 
Tonygameman said:
(at least Michelle could get it based on her fight with Blackheart in the comic; that moment when an assist scales over Onslaught, though a chain could get updated from what Lonkitt's probably planning with my notes)
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Yeah, Michelle's less vague than Jubilee. Michelle would outright scale to Blackheart

As for the scaling chain, things honestly won't change all too much. It kinda just gets bigger since Shin Akuma is a thing and Post-Resurrection Thanos is stronger than his previous self, which surprisingly doesn't break any of the previous scaling & upscaling from Pre-Resurrection Thanos being superior to Galactus

I'll update everyone with my proposed new High 5-A scaling chain when I can
 
Also the new High 5-A scaling chain will make Guile stronger than Base Ryu by quite a lot which I think is funny
 
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Also the new High 5-A scaling chain will make Guile stronger than Base Ryu by quite a lot which I think is funny
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Okay I got the new High 5-A scaling chain

A bit of context for anyone who forgot. Thanos was killed in MSH and would be resurrected by Death as of MvC2

Galactus is where our High 5-A feat comes from (1.64552679 Quettatons)

Galactus < (Hawkeye/Hsien-Ko/Magneto/Viewitful Joe/Felicia/Taskmaster/M.O.D.O.K./Iron Fist/Deadpool/Nova)

Great. After this, we have people above the likes of the aforementioned characters, though not to an extreme extent. Iron Man, says Hawkeye is a second-rate Avenger. Cap can fight Iron Man, while people like Black Widow and Crimson Viper are around Steve's level. Additionally, there are a number of X-Men who have defeated Magneto by themselves. Apocalypse should be stronger than Magneto based on the OFC and how he's portrayed in the games

< (Iron Man/Captain America/Black Widow/Crimson Viper/Winter Soldier/Iceman/Colossus/Apocalypse)

M. Bison had a lengthy battle with Magneto, though his Accelerated Development kicked in, allowing him to outright overwhelm Magneto in his ending. Ryu, Chun-Li, and Charlie should be around Bison's level as well. Keep in mind, M. Bison could also endure a combined blast from Iron Man and Cyclops at the same time

< (Ryu/Chun-Li/Charlie Nash/Ken Masters/M. Bison/Cyclops/Psylocke/Spiral/Hayato/Omega Red)

Pre-Resurrection Thanos "dwarves" Galactus in sheer strength so he should be on the higher end, and then Dark Hayato should be decent stronger than his base self who was blocking Spiral's attack pretty damn well. Shadow Lady and Shadow are stronger than their human selves

< (Dark Hayato/Shadow/Shadow Lady/Pre-Resurrection Thanos)

Then we've got the characters who can defeat Onslaught, whether by themselves or with only one other person assisting them. Mega Man, Spider-Man, Wolverine, War Machine, Captain Commando, Strider Hiryu, and Roll come to mind here (Venom did so as well, but we'll be discussing him in a bit). Then there are those who scale to this level through scaling to the aforementioned characters, such as Morrigan, Hulk, X-23, Nathan Spencer, Haggar, She-Hulk, Black Panther, Monster Hunter, Grandmaster Meio, Gamora, Sabretooth, and Cammy. Storm is also implied to be slightly stronger than Wolverine, so that plays a part here too

< Onslaught ≈< (Mega Man/Spider-Man/Wolverine/War Machine/Captain Commando/Strider Hiryu/Roll/Morrigan/Hulk/X-23/Nathan Spencer/Haggar/She-Hulk/Black Panther/Monster Hunter/Grandmaster Meio/Gamora/Sabretooth/Cammy White/Ghost Rider/Storm/Juggernaut/Guile/Sentinel/Partenaire)

Moving forwards, we got Venom who is essentially stronger than Spider-Man, having greatly enhanced versions of ALL of Spider-Man's powers, which would include his superhuman attributes. Blackheart defeated Ryu, Spider-Man, Zangief, Captain America, and Chun-Li all at once at the same time. X comes from an advanced generation of robots compared to Mega Man, and thus would be far superior to him. Michelle Heart, an ASSIST ONLY CHARACTER, was boxing up with Blackheart which is just insane, but okay, go off. Dhalsim was also boxing up Venom, so he's stronger than a lot of other guys too. Street Fighter scaling in MvC truly is another beast entirely. Also, Doctor Doom casually blocked attacks from the combined likes of Morrigan, Mega Man, Captain Commando, and Ryu at the same time. Additionally, base Akuma was capable of defeating Ryu, Chun-Li, Captain America, Wolverine, and Iron Man all at once. Power of Nothingness Ryu could significantly harm an opponent that could withstand an attack from the Hulk

< (Power of Nothingness Ryu/Blackheart/Mega Man X/Venom/Doctor Doom/Michelle Heart/Dhalsim/Akuma)

Cyber-Akuma should scale here, since he's upscaling his base self and was remade with "true power" in his own words. Mephisto is stronger than Blackheart to where the guy only felt confident in rebelling against his father when he just so happened to get his hands on the Completed Infinity Gauntlet. Zero has defeated X in the past (with the only time he lost to X being when he was mind-controlled, with X also receiving help from Rocket Racoon), along with the fact Zero is from the same generation as X as was Dr. Wily's greatest creation AND Sigma (who has fought X a bunch of times) says Zero has "limitless potential". Zero views Super-Skrull as an opponent who keeps him on his toes

< (Mephisto/Zero/Super-Skrull/Cyber-Akuma)

Sigma is the first and most powerful Reploid, which means he's superior to Zero and X. Mephisto expressed fear when Dante threatened to kill him, with the latter casually blitzing and restraining him as well, making it clear he could kill him right then and there. Vergil is viewed as an equal fighter to Dante according to Trish. Also, in Ghost Rider's ending, Trish assists in subduing Mephisto, so she would scale around here, albeit she's probably weaker than Dante. Also worth noting that Ghost Rider, who could stalemate Morrigan, needed to ask Dante and Trish to subdue Mephisto which adds further support here. As of Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter, Sakura beats both Cyber-Akuma and Apocalypse at the SAME TIME. She's out here glazing Ryu for no reason dawg

< (Sigma/Dante/Vergil/Trish/Sakura Kasugano)

Okay. So Captain Marvel mentions how she should've put down Thanos when she had the chance. This is WELL after MvC2, so I think it's fair to say she's talking about Post-Resurrection Thanos. I know that might be debatable, but I'm rolling with that for now. Rogue's encounter with Carol Danvers in the past led to her permanently having her superhuman attributes, so she's here. Dante states he wouldn't be able to afford pulling his punches against Dormammu, so the latter should be a bit higher. Dark Sakura is decently stronger than her base self

< (Dark Sakura Kasugano/Captain Marvel/Rogue/Dormammu)

Doctor Strange has defeated Dormammu multiple times and is the latter's "greatest foe", he's fought Mephisto in the past, and is credited to be one of the most powerful sorcerers in existence, as well as the Earth's greatest hero. Jedah Dohma is stronger than Dormammu, who would go onto serve under Jedah. Additionally, base Dante got one-shot by Jedah-Dohma. Ultron could one-shot Sigma. Post-Resurrection Thanos could fight off Jedah Dohma. Ultron also feels confident he could kill Post-Resurrection Thanos. And as we know, Shin Akuma was equally matched with Thanos. When amped by the Time Gem, Iron Man and Frank West could briefly defeat Thanos

< (Doctor Strange/Jedah Dohma/Ultron/Post-Resurrection Thanos/Shin Akuma/Time Gem Iron Man/Time Gem Frank West)

Thanos also found Ryu's Satsui no Hado to be impressive, and would later use it himself as an amp.

< (Satsui no Hado Ryu/Satsui no Hado Thanos)

Devil Trigger Dante could deftly defeat Jedah Dohma, and Devil Trigger Vergil should have the same amp considering he's already equal to Dante's base. Shuma-Gorath possesses all of the abilities and is the manifestation of the dark side of the Ancient One, the mentor who went on to teach Doctor Strange. Dormammu is also FAR weaker than Shuma-Gorath, being the only character (prior to Jedah Dohma) that he respectfully treats as his master. I'd actually argue Dormammu treated Shuma-Gorath as a bigger deal than he ever did Jedah Dohma

< (Shuma-Gorath/DT Dante/DT Vergil)

Post-Gem Crack Ultron-Sigma, while weaker than his previous self, was stated by DT Dante to still not be someone The Resistance could beat with a lesser amount of Infinity Gems. The Symbiote Monster required The Resistance to use three Infinity Gems in combination with the explosion of the Graviton Core in order to completely destroy it

< (Symbiote Monster/Ultron-Sigma Post-Gem Crack)

The Symbiote Monster was still not enough to beat Pre-Gem Crack Ultron-Sigma according to Jedah Dohma. Then there's Ultron-Omega, who's stronger than any of Ultron-Sigma's previous forms. This same monster was still not enough to beat Pre-Gem Crack Ultron-Sigma according to Jedah Dohma. Then there's Ultron-Omega, who's stronger than any of Ultron-Sigma's previous forms

< (Ultron-Sigma Pre-Gem Crack/Abyss First Form) < Ultron-Omega

And of course, we're topping this off with Abyss upscaling

< Abyss Second Form < Abyss Final Form


GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH THIS WAS A PAIN TO MAKE

Apocalypse managing to capture certain characters might seem like it places him higher, but it seems more like an equipment thing, especially since all hell breaks loose for the same guys who defeated Apocalypse once Shuma-Gorath breaks out. Onslaught being superior to previous threats also supports this

I probably forgot some people too, that's the worst part
 
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