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Dang that's rough stuff. Was he using the Phoenix Force in that scene or was it just incomplete Odinforce?
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Marvel Comics: Captain America's High 1-B shield
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He has the Odinforce at this point and technically he does have the phoenix too since he has it from birth but that was Jason Aaron's stuff doubt that can actually apply here even more considering that A.X.E happened before the end of his avengers run
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Wolverine has High 3-A with Adamantium claw (but i think he should be far higher tho), If the metal used in making Cap's shield is Proto-Adamantium (which shouldn't be weaker than True Adamantium used for Logan bones. We can argue that it is stronger as it has never be replicated)/ Vibranium (absorbing properties) and later enhanced with Uru that is Proto-Adamantium / Vibranium + Uru then he should definitely get his High 1-B and besides OP made it clear that it can only be broken via hax or a Low 1-A level character.
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Okay, that makes more sense. Earlier comments seemed to suggest that the Celestial took out Odinforce Phoenix Thor, which is a lot higher than High 1-B
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Sorry if i forgot but its "Phoenix and Thor (Odinforce)" not "Phoenix Thor (Odinforce)" and it doesnt change that much Phoenix force Echo is likely as powerful as Jean Gray low 1-A and Thor is still high 1-B.
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Bump
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Got any other support?
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I agree with the CRT.
Like someone else suggested, I think the OP is better off finding an extra durability feat or two. Regardless, I don't see a compelling reason to disagree.
Like someone else suggested, I think the OP is better off finding an extra durability feat or two. Regardless, I don't see a compelling reason to disagree.
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Imagine going in the High 1-B category to look for matchups and Captain America pops up
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He's not the only street level that got/getting into High 1-B, lmao.
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It's just durability, not AP, so he wouldn't show up.
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No, because he isn't strong enough to impart the shield with enough momentum to exploit its High 1-B durability for AP purposes.
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What more needs to be done here before we can put this on Cap's profile?
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Planck and Mav are the only staff with evaluation rights who have agreed. I don’t think Tracer, Tempest, and Chompy have stated anything but a neutral stance.
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I haven't stated neutral, I just said this is ridiculous
I agree though
I agree though
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I may be missing something here, but just because a character scales to something like universal, it does not mean that the character hits with the strength to destroy a universe with every hit. Hits are often inconsistent; for example, a human could punch with 40 joules in one punch, but the next punch with 100 joules, and so on. I disagree, but of course, I may be missing something here.
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I mean, it's Thor. We already acknowledge that his powerscaling is generally inconsistent because of how he nearly always holds back.
But with Cap's shield, the only times it has even been damaged, broken or destroyed is from High 1-B/Low 1-A stuff
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I think this can be applied now if it wasn’t already.
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Three staff have voted in favor of this and none have voted against it, so I'll apply this. This thread can be closed.
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