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Alright, here we go. Two feminine pink boys, from series that have clashed in the past (Sora VS Zero, if yall remember). Unequalizing speed because Elpizo more than likely has a notable AP advantage. If i'm wrong, tell me.

SBA, Both are in Character and have access to everything in their profiles. Fight takes place in Neo Arcadia, because why not?

Marluxia:

Elpizo:
 
Elpizo wins because he manages to be even more F A B U L O U S than Marluxia.

'k seriously now.

As happy as I am with seeing an Elpizo match, if Marluxia is non-existent I'm not sure Elps can even touch him.
 
It is acttualy,thats why nobodies are always intagible like the Heartless,anyway Marluxia casts Doom counter and GG no re.
 
Axl233 said:
It is acttualy,thats why nobodies are always intagible like the Heartless,anyway Marluxia casts Doom counter and GG no re.
>Always intangible.

Wot.
 
Yes,you can only affect a heartless or a nobody with a keyblade or magic this was show when Sora tried to figth the heartless with a sword in destiny islands all his attacks were going through then the same thing happened to Roxas when he fought a Dusk without the Keyblade,with none existence and intagibility im doubt that Elpizo would eveen be able to touch Marluxia.
 
Beamgc said:
Since he can harm intangible then this should be add to his profile
If we add this to Sora that means that every character should have it cause they can use the keyblade or use magic.
 
Axl233 said:
Yes,you can only affect a heartless or a nobody with a keyblade or magic this was show when Sora tried to figth the heartless with a sword in destiny islands all his attacks were going through then the same thing happened to Roxas when he fought a Dusk without the Keyblade,with none existence and intagibility im doubt that Elpizo would eveen be able to touch Marluxia.
Erm... Nobodies arent the same as Heartless...

A Nobody is the body and soul of a strong-willed individual who has lost their heart.

Any proof that they suddenly become intangible upon losing their heart? Because they are the body.
 
Im not saying that they are the same thing,im saying that they both intagible Nobodies because they none existent heartless probaly because they are being made of pure darkness.

Roxas tried to figth a Dusk in the twiligth town massion but he was just fazing through him.
 
Axl233 said:
Im not saying that they are the same thing,im saying that they both intagible Nobodies because they none existent heartless probaly because they are being made of pure darkness.

Roxas tried to figth a Dusk in the twiligth town massion but he was just fazing through him.
Reminder that Roxas himself is a Nobody. And Roxas doesnt phase through stuff, and none of the Org XIII do it neither.
 
FateAlbane said:
He means this, Pachi.

When Roxas tries to attack the Dusk in Twilight town with a normal weapon the strike keeps phasing through without the dusk doing anything until he gets the Keyblade.
You see, that happens once. Doing generalizations from one instance is a bad idea.

Nobodies (especially Org XIII members) arent portrayed as intangible consistently. Heck, Axel can punch Roxas and they can touch each other.

Simply put, XIII members arent intangible.
 
If a fodder of the same kind is intagible why wouldn't the others be the same?then being intangible eveen makes sence when when you consider the statments that say they are none existent.
 
Axl233 said:
If a fodder of the same kind is intagible why wouldn't the others be the same?then being intangible eveen makes sence when when you consider the statments that say they are none existent.
Unless its a common trait, which cant be proven since it only happened once, there is no basis for generalization. The burden of proof is on your side to prove that XIII members are intangible.
 
This is why I don't really care about KH in matchups, the profiles are a bit unclear about things.

Now, about nobodies, there's a little detail that is being overlooked: when the heart is removed ,the body fades into darkness, only to reform later in the Realm of Darkness. And how has the realm of darkness been described as?

"Secret Ansem Report 06

My choice to befriend darkness here in the midst of nothingness was a sound one. The moment I stared straight ahead with a calm heart, neither rejecting darkness nor fearing it, I gained a newfound power.

A superhuman power - the power of darkness.

It is likely Xehanort and the others were enraptured by this power, eventually becoming its prisoners.

I do not intend to allow my heart to be devoured by the darkness as they did, of course.

With this new power, I uncovered a "Corridor of Darkness" that connects the realm of nothingness to the outside world. While it is still difficult to come and go as I please, my banishment is now a thing of the past.

To deceive Xehanort and my apprentices, I first used my power to change form before returning to the realm of light.

As I suspected, Xehanort had become a Heartless.

Under my name, he commanded other Heartless in quests to snatch away the hearts of many different worlds. At the center of the hearts Xehanort had stolen was "Kingdom Hearts," which attracts tremendous darkness to itself and attempts to send any and all matter back into its depths.

The other five have disappeared. Have they become heartless like Xehanort?

Or did they vanish after Xehanort exploited them?

I became familiar with an unusual "entity" while pursuing the truth.

.*It is the soul and body that remain when a being loses its heart.*

When a Heartless is born, these entities disappear from the realm of light, to be reborn as entirely new beings in a completely different realm.


Secret Ansem Report 07

While beings born of darkness and those lacking hearts may find them convenient, it is dangerous for others to make much use of the corridors of darkness. Darkness erodes the heart.

In search of a place to proceed with my research and planning away from prying eyes, I found myself in "Twilight Town." It is a quiet village, forgotten in the chasm between light and darkness. I situated myself in the basement of an abandoned mansion standing beyond the woods.

My underground research resulted in one new discovery after another.

When a Heartless is born, the *body and soul* left behind are reborn into this world as a different being.

They possess different intentions than their Heartless brethren, and while it is unclear what these sentient "Things" are after, it would appear they are responsible for much bedlam in the world.

My erstwhile friend the King and his subjects, along with a hero wielding the keyblade, are battling the Heartless even as a new threat approaches.

This new threat... they have given themselves a fitting name, I suppose.

These non-beings: "Nobodies."
 
Im just dont undestand why would the Org members be any different from the others,it was only stated that they are more powerful Nobodies nothing.

Also that is not the only instance of nobodies being intagible,in Kingdom hearts 1 when sora fougth Xemnas in Hollow Bastion Xemnas fazed through him and at the start of chain of memories Marluxia did the same thing.
 
Axl233 said:
Im just dont undestand why would the Org members be any different from the others,it was only stated that they are more powerful Nobodies nothing.

Also that is not the only instance of nobodies being intagible,in Kingdom hearts 1 when sora fougth Xemnas in Hollow Bastion Xemnas fazed through him and at the start of chain of memories Marluxia did the same thing.
Im pretty sure that in Marluxia's case it was an illusion.
 
I was just pointing out the occasion he mentioned.

The org members also got the whole Non-Existent deal listed so I had thought it would apply in the same way.

If it doesn't matter for jack in matches it should probably be specified as "not-combat applicable" or something of the sort.
 
Im pretty sure that in Marluxia's case it was an illusion.

No,im talking about when they entered in the Castle Oblivion and Marluxia just fazed through to sample they memories,but whatever man if im cant change your point of view im not gonna eveen try anymore.
 
PaChi2 said:
Axl233 said:
Yes,you can only affect a heartless or a nobody with a keyblade or magic this was show when Sora tried to figth the heartless with a sword in destiny islands all his attacks were going through then the same thing happened to Roxas when he fought a Dusk without the Keyblade,with none existence and intagibility im doubt that Elpizo would eveen be able to touch Marluxia.
Erm... Nobodies arent the same as Heartless...
A Nobody is the body and soul of a strong-willed individual who has lost their heart.

Any proof that they suddenly become intangible upon losing their heart? Because they are the body.
wierd that nobodies are bodies without hearts while heartless are hearts without bodies
 
Kingdom hearts in general needs a cleaning and revision,a bunch of characters have abilities that are missing in the profiles,the cosmology is badly explained and some characters have habilities in they profiles that they dont eveen have,Reppuzan said he was going to fix some stuff but the profiles are still locked and he is probaly busy with other things to do.
 
IIRC Heartless and Nobodies can only be truely hurt by "magical" weapons such as the Keyblade (or basically any notable weapon in the series)
 
For whoever hasn't noticed, my post above means that there's a point to be made about both nobodies' body and pureblood heartless being fully nonexistent, and that would also explain why they can't be hurt with conventional weapons... excluding those of Disney characters from the various worlds because plot demands it ovo
 
Hst master said:
IIRC Heartless and Nobodies can only be truely hurt by "magical" weapons such as the Keyblade (or basically any notable weapon in the series)
i don't think dark elf counts as magic
 
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