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Mario vs Kirby (GRACE)

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both are "at least" 4-A
both in character
speed is equal
both are 10km away

kirby: 11

mario:

incon:
 
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first of all, no
second of all mario could lightly breath and one shot due to him having all of the 150 stars from 64 and all of the 120 stars from sunshine, each of which scales to 3-C
kirbo wont even start with empath manip due to fate hax so
mario
 
Buddy, fate hax doesn't work against incap stuff, just going to say that right here.
cept his does, see luigi's mansion trilogy, super princess peach, mario 64 ds etc, not to mention the fact that all other incap methods that would not of been permanent are not affected by it, see spm, and the og paper mario
 
Proof that it protect from permanent incaps, also, don't tell me to go play "insert mario game", I don't have literally every mario game ever made
 
yeah it doesnt stop all forms of incap, temporary ones such as sleep still work
Yeah, just how we handle Archie Sonic’s FateHax, temporaries still work on both characters. Wincon via Incap can work to win VSBW matches.

Tho, Kirby’s Empathic Manipulation isn’t temporary. But it’s also fact if Kirby is not a villain and his Empathic Manipulation wouldn’t stop Mario from saving Peach, since, morality wise, they kind of are on the same side in the battle of Good vs Evil.

It would just stop Mario from fighting Kirby.
 
Tho, Kirby’s Empathic Manipulation isn’t temporary. But it’s also fact if Kirby is not a villain and his Empathic Manipulation wouldn’t stop Mario from saving Peach, since, morality wise, they kind of are on the same side in the battle of Good vs Evil.
fair nuff if anything this would just make mario saving peach even easier
 
Kirby via in-character hax and better combat skills.

Inhale is pretty inevitable for Mario to escape given LS difference, and getting inside Kirby's stomach incapacitates him for as long as Kirby doesn't feel like summoning him as a Helper. Friend Hearts are self-explanatory on reading what they do, AP wise Kirby scales to higher given everything shown on the pages, and skills wise Kirby has faced more competent fighters, with other main characters portrayed less impressively actually scaling to each other.
 
ofc kirby wins here, mario's previous wincon was him lightly tapping kirby due to the ap difference, and also kirby aping mario here is not a wincon, mario will res and just ee kirby
 
The only lacily win con mario had while they they used the 3-C end was ap, now that that is gone kirby is much more likely to win that before. Also if kirby kills mario, mario will just res and ee kirby
 
Wait a sec, how do friend hearts incap Mario? He may become Kirby's friend but he would still defend himself. And can't Mario just escape Kirby's stomach with vanish cap? Mario has far more varied haxes and a way to surprise Kirby after escaping from his stomach. Mario won't hold back after being nearly devoured by him
 
Wait a sec, how do friend hearts incap Mario? He may become Kirby's friend but he would still defend himself. And can't Mario just escape Kirby's stomach with vanish cap? Mario has far more varied haxes and a way to surprise Kirby after escaping from his stomach. Mario won't hold back after being nearly devoured by him
so u vote mario?
 
Wait a sec, how do friend hearts incap Mario? He may become Kirby's friend but he would still defend himself. And can't Mario just escape Kirby's stomach with vanish cap? Mario has far more varied haxes and a way to surprise Kirby after escaping from his stomach. Mario won't hold back after being nearly devoured by him
Woudln't Kirby stop attacking after friend-hearting mario due to having incapped him by making him into an ally? Also, Kirby's stomach is another dimension, how is vanish cap going to get him out of that?

More versatile haxxes

Kirby resists a good bit of Mario's stuff, and I would definitely not say mario's hax is more versatile.
 
Woudln't Kirby stop attacking after friend-hearting mario due to having incapped him by making him into an ally? Also, Kirby's stomach is another dimension, how is vanish cap going to get him out of that?



Kirby resists a good bit of Mario's stuff, and I would definitely not say mario's hax is more versatile.
How is making him an ally incap
 
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