Mario vs Bayonetta

[WeeklyBattles]

Yes, Mario has things Bayo doesnt resist just like Bayo has things that Mario doesnt resist, hence why its inconclusive as its a who shoots first with their hax

 

[Bobsican]

The most I see from Bayo that Mario doesn´t resist is Madness Manip, which Mario may even resist as he resists Fear Manip.

He also starts with a passive forcefield that nullifies damage for a few hits, by the way.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

If it's something that appears in one game then he hardly "starts" with it

 

[Dust_Collector]

Mario also doesn't resist Soul Manipulation, Empathetic Manipulation, or being destroyed on an atomic level, and no to Mario being able to resist madness solely due to resisting fear inducement. Plus the passive forcefields that nullify damage are irrelevant anyway since Mario is already naturally durable enough to no sell Bayonettas physical strikes.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Madness manip and fear manip ade two very different things. I also see no resistance to atomic level matter destruction, soul destruction, or mind hax on his profile

It shows up in all of one game, him starting with it is far from the truth. Plus Bayo has a specific ability that nulls barriers and forcefields even if he did start with it.

 

[Bobsican]

He can also charge it by taking or dealing damage, by the way, so when it´s avaiable, he will use it.

Aka, he can only use it mid-battle, which may make the match fair enought.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Bump

 

[Bobsican]

Does Bayo have an answer against the White Tanooki form?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

It's just physical invulnerability, not something that would nullify all of Bayo's hax. It's not like Mario needs that considering his already major durability advantage.

 

[Bobsican]

It also knocks off conventional proyectiles.aimed at him upon impact, but I guess that hardly would be a factor here.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

This wouldn't affect Bayo's abilities at all.

 

[Bobsican]

That´s why I´m saying it hardly would be a factor at all.

Also, Mario still has the Golden Flower at his disposal.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Which is also subject to being dodged...

 

[Bobsican]

But it´s spammable and has a decent AoE upon hitting any wall.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Bayo has invulnerability as well via the yellow moon lollipop

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

It'll be the same glowing, bouncing projectile that bounces in a linear direction. Unless Bayonetta hasn't fought a day in her life, I'm pretty sure she'll be able to continually dodge it.

 

[Bobsican]

Not if Mario manages to restrain her with his blaster to fill her in honey and ink.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Dunno much about Mario's blaster but it sounds like it can also be evaded...

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Bayo's lifting strength os more than enough to prevent mario from restraining her

 

[Bobsican]

She wouldn´t have her own movement affected by being covered in sticky stuff in that case?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Couldn't she rip it off her?

 

[Bobsican]

Probably, but it conventionally isn´t something that can be done in seconds, giving Mario a few free hits at least unless Weekly has something to say (which I can feel).

In other words, Mario can still use the time gap to just use his transmutation.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Considering her Class T LS it'd probably take very little time.

Also there's Bat Within.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yes, Bayo had class T vs mario's class g and she can just go bat or snake within to get out of it

 

[Bobsican]

Oh yeah, that move is OP, no wonder she is treated like Sans.

In that case, Mario can also put her to literally sleep by hitting her with his baahammer.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Don't see how a melee weapon will be any harder to evade than the projectiles you've mentioned

 

[Bobsican]

Mario has a lot of swift aerial movement by making platforms for himself.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Mario has a lot of swift aerial movement by making platforms for himself.

Bayo can do the exact same thing

As well as fly without needing a specific powerup

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Incon FRA.

 

[Bobsican]

I would also like to point out that the White Tanooki form also has a passive one hit kill to anythng that touches Mario physically.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Invincibility items inflicting instant death is a common game mechanic.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Wait we legitimately consider starman and white tanooki powerups one hit kills? That is textbook game mechanics my guy.

Plus has it ever actually killed anything other than fodder enemies?

 

[Bobsican]

"White Tanooki Mario: This is basically the same item as the Tanooki leaf but with one major difference; it grants Mario Starman's one-hit kill ability, it also lacks the Starman's time limit so Mario is always in star/rainbow mode while using this item." - Mario´s profile

By the way, yes, it can one shot Bowser by pure contact

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

That should be removed. It's blatant game mechanics unless we're planning to give every character with an Invincibility item One Hit Kill or Death Manipulation. Which also means Bayonetta has OHK.

 

[Bobsican]

How does Bayo have OHK exactly?

Also, Marios still has Lullaby and Showstopper, which look a bit OP in the profile, but I lack knowledge regarding Paper Mario powers, so I can´t tell beyond what the page says.

 

[Lightbuster30]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:The_real_cal_howard/Mario--Power_Stars_and_Black_Holes

But thats 4-B isn't it?

 

[Bobsican]

But thats 4-B isn't it?

Check the first comment, it´s High 4-C +, which no one has bothered to add to the profiles (And by add, I mean the "+")

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Bump

 

[GyroNutz]

Incon FRA

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Bump