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I'm just curious to what their tiers were before Sonic became multi-continent and before Mario became Large Star level.
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Mario & Sonic Pre-upgrades
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Mario used to be 4-A and Post-Super Genesis Wave Archie Sonic used to be 5-C
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Mario was Low 7-B, possibly 4-A. Sonic was 7-B.
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Why was Mario's 7-B removed, anyway? Since Mario has no canon I feel like we should probably show him at his general weakest as well as general strongest. As of now I can only think of two characters with Low 4-C feats when it comes to Mario off the top of my head (Yoshi and King Boo). I'm probably forgetting a lot more.
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Sonic was 7-B? Whew.
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Sonic was 7-B and Super Sonic was "At least 5-A."
Glad I wasn't around for this.
Glad I wasn't around for this.
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Scaling from Perfect Chaos too. Big yikes.Maverick Zero X said:
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Solaris used to be Nigh-Omnipresent with FTL+ reactions.
Compare that to now where he has immeasurable speed.
Compare that to now where he has immeasurable speed.
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Perfect Chaos is 5-A though not 7-B.
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Iblis and Ifrit surface destruction feats were kinda glossed over.
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Ifrit comes from Sonic Rivals 2 which is canon.
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I remember Mario being 5-B all the way back in 2015.
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Multi-solar system.
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He used to be 3-B believe it or not.
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I miss 5-B Sonic. He should be 5-B to begin with if you ask me.
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Sonic was 7-B in base, 5-A in Super Form and 4-C in hyper form. He was also massively hypersonic, FTL+ and Massively FTL.
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Even worse, Ultra Sonic used to be 2-C.
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And their best hax was matter manipulation.
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I believe it was Sera who got Sega Sonic out of the "everything that's above tier 5 & FTL is an outlier" nonsense,she also proved that the Emeralds have a variable tier.
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Yeah it was her.
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As for Archie, I remember when alot of members where calling the SGW feat an outlier aswell even though there's other scaling that puts them at that level with Master Mogul,Solaris,Enerjak etc.
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Yeah that was garbage as well. Glad I wasn't around for it.
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Every version of Sonic was a butt monkey in thoses times,I thought that would never change.
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Even when I joined Archie Sonic characters used to be among the weakest 2-As on this site.
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@Shadow
You guys have loaded Archie up with all kinds of stuff just in the last year, I helped a smidge methinks.
You guys have loaded Archie up with all kinds of stuff just in the last year, I helped a smidge methinks.
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