Mario 3-A/Low 2-C Upgrade

[ShakeResounding]

Might wanna rename the thread to "Mario 3-A/Low 2-C Upgrade"

 

[CinnabarManx421]

I agree with this, but some staff input should be given here I think.

 

[Thatsafloridathing]

I agree with this, but wow, Low 2-C base Mario, now that's something

 

[CinnabarManx421]

I agree with this, but wow, Low 2-C base Mario, now that's something

It's not base Mario, it's Mario with a Power Star.

 

[Thatsafloridathing]

Ohhh, that makes a bit more sense, guess I missed that part

 

[Unoriginal_Memes]

I was going to bring up the statement about the fabric of the universe, but I was unsure if it was talking about the Galaxy Reactor at the time. After reading the scan again, I can see that it was.

And it should probably be noted that Mario can only beat Bowser with multiple Power Stars, as the Grand Star is stated to be far superior to a singular Power Star and Mario canonically has 150 Power Stars by the time he fights Bowser.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Prima guides are definently not considered valid for upgrades but meh

 

[Phoenix821]

Would this mean them survivng the destruction of the Sammer kingdom not an outlier?

 

[The_Smashor]

Prima guides?

@Phoenix

No. For the millionth time, this dosn't effect base Mario.

 

[Paul_Frank]

The scan is from a prima guide it says it on the bottom right

Prima Games is a company that makes strategy guides for various games

 

[The_Smashor]

Are said guides approved by the origional companies?

 

[Corgi_the_Gen_Z_God]

Wasn't rosalina protecting everyone though? Plus in other games, Mario struggles to beat King Boo to the likes of a Koopa in Super Princess Peach.

 

[Corgi_the_Gen_Z_God]

Mario is more inconsistent than Futurama

 

[Paul_Frank]

Are said guides approved by the origional companies?

I don't know but either way I'm fairly certain just being approved isn't enough to take the extra previously unmentioned information in some of these guides as evidence for an upgrade

although like I said idk thats why it was slashed out earlier

 

[The_Smashor]

Does anyone have the origional cutscene where the guide says Bowser says that?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

@Smashor https://youtu.be/cjHYPR2Pb1k (5:39)

 

[The_Smashor]

Ah. So then I don't think this can be used. The guide isn't origionally from Nintendo and is completely inaccurate to what Bowser actually says.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

I think you're right. The actual game tells us Bowser would use the Galaxy Reactor to create a galactic empire. The guidebook could be exaggerated...

 

[The_Smashor]

Ya think?

Creating a galaxy and breaking the Space-Time Continum have a pretty large gap in between them.

 

[Genericstickman]

I mean bowser was able to create a black hole that destroyed the universe in the end of galaxy so maybe

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Wasn't that basically a suicide attack/final resort that would've killed Mario and co. had not Rosalina and the Lumas intervened? That shouldn't scale to their physicals iirc.

 

[Genericstickman]

Actually it's more like his galaxy turning into a black hole rather then a suicide attack

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Still, that shouldn't scale to their physicals.

 

[Mephistus]

The guide was made with the author in contact with the devs and its a licensed product about the same game.

The lore included should be accurate, the author giving us incorrect info and just making stuff up on the spot wouldn't be practical if he could verify shiz with the authors of the game.

The guide stating the reactor would be collapsing the universe is actually supported and seen on a universal scale since we see a black void whereupon all the celestial bodies in the sky facing us that used to be there are gone before the Lumas recreate everything. Its destructive power is not just on a galactic scale.

And the recreation of the universe in the sense that the collapse would be, would be 3-A at minimum assumption.

 

[Dienomite22]

Wait, How does "threatening the fabric of the universe" make a feat low 2-C?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

/thread

 

[The_Smashor]

Approved or not, the guide is stupidly inaccurate to what actually happened.

 

[Mephistus]

The reactor never got to do what it was intended so, don't really see the innacuracy.

 

[The_Smashor]

The guide says Bowser says something that he dosn't actually say.

 

[Unoriginal_Memes]

Wait, How does "threatening the fabric of the universe" make a feat low 2-C?

The fabric of the universe is Low 2-C. So threatening the very fabric of the universe is Low 2-C.

This was brought up in the Mario CRT which planned to downgrade the cast from High 4-C.

 

[Mephistus]

Its not quoting his words ab verbatim tho and its describing his plans in 1st person to us; still not inaccurate.

 

[Dienomite22]

The fabric of the universe is Low 2-C. So threatening the very fabric of the universe is Low 2-C.

This was brought up in the Mario CRT which planned to downgrade the cast from High 4-C.

Isn't the "fabric of the universe" a made up term that has many meanings across many different interpretations of our universe's cosmology?

 

[Paul_Frank]

If his own plans were to do something on a galactic scale and the guide hops up to him doing something even bigger on a universal scale I'm pretty sure its inaccurate or at the very least inconsistent with what was shown and stated in the main game.

 

[Genericstickman]

Speaking of the guides does it say anywhere in the Galaxy 2 guide that the gentle pull is the supreme god of Mario? Since in G2 it only says it binds everyone together and bringing people back together and that's it

 

[Unoriginal_Memes]

If the person who made the guy worked with the creators of the game to make the guide, it should be usable. I don't see how these "arguments" disprove that fact.

 

[The_Smashor]

The fact that it contradicts the source material.

 

[Mephistus]

His plans were to create a galaxy in the center of the universe. Which was gonna happen resulting from the universe destruction.

 

[Dienomite22]

I don't think that makes any sense (not and argument for or against it just saying that it sounds redundant)

 

[The_Smashor]

The guide says he reveals that his Galaxy Reactor is going to destroy the universe. In the game, he dosn't even mantion it.

 

[ChocomilkAlex]

Didn't Rosalina recreate the entire universe in Mario Galaxy because of the black hole that Bowser created at the end of the game? If so then Mario being able to kick Bowser's ass would justify at least a 3-A rating.