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Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha: Terminology & Cosmology Blog

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Hello. I was told to make a thread and ask if this blog is good enough to be added in Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha's verse page.

The blog just explains the terminology and cosmology of the verse.

This is my first ever blog, so there is bound to be some mistakes.

The blog:
vsbattles.fandom.com

Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha: Terminology & Cosmology

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**The blog has been accepted. Any further improvements or complaints regarding the blog can be posted here or on my message wall.
 
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this is good, i agree

tho, you can request for translation on the translation request thread, so that it will be more understandable
 
Further more should be changed to Furthermore.

Okay, but for real.
From my point of view, it's an easily understandable blog.

To make it more solid, I'd even prefer if the statements (the machine-translated ones) were to be translated by actual translators here.
 
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RamadhanDayYet said:
Concept manipulation type 2 for maou Gakuin is possible
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This tbh. The order and concepts in deeper layers are superior than the shallow layers, so even if you destroy a certain order/concept in a shallow layer, it could still exist in a deeper layer due to the weight of order being vastly superior/uncountable greater and also independent of what happpens in the shallow layer. Maybe "Conceptual Manipulation Type 3, likely Type 2" would fit better in this case.

Regarding the overall blog, it looks good. Nice job.
 
Oblivion_Of_The_Endless said:
This tbh. The order and concepts in deeper layers are superior than the shallow layers, so even if you destroy a certain order/concept in a shallow layer, it could still exist in a deeper layer due to the weight of order being vastly superior/uncountable greater and also independent of what happpens in the shallow layer. Maybe "Conceptual Manipulation Type 3, likely Type 2" would fit better in this case.

Regarding the overall blog, it looks good. Nice job.
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i always thought about this tbh, or at least if type 2 isn't accepted, the Concept Manipulation type 3 will negate 99 layers resistance

but, that's just me
 
Thanks for everyone's input. It's much appreciated.

I suggest this thread remains open, so that any further improvements or complaints regarding the blog can be posted here.
 
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Just_a_Random_Butler said:
To make it more solid, I'd even prefer if the statements (the machine-translated ones) were to be translated by actual translators here.
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Here's one if you like.


銀の海の本当の意味を誤解している人はまだまだたくさんいると思います。
シルバーシーの本当の意味の簡単な説明。

銀色の海にはたくさんの層があります、そして各層には無数の泡があります、そして各バブルには無限の空があります、永遠に引き伸ばされる間に終わりはありません、神の世界があるところです。
それぞれの神は独自の世界を持っています、そしてより深い世界があります、それは世界の主な神または深淵の世界です。

では各レイヤーのサイズは無限ですか?
はい、銀の海の各層は無限のサイズを持っています、この小説ですでに説明されている銀の海は99層あります、実際、銀色の海にはまだ99層よりも深い層がたくさんあります。

シルバーシーについての私の説明は以上です。

私の作品を読んでくれてありがとう、そして私は本当にすべての読者に感謝します。

そして私をサポートしてくれてありがとう。

I think there are still many people who misunderstand the true meaning of the Silver Sea.
Here's an easy explanation of the true meaning of the Silver Sea.

There are many layers in the silver sea, and there are countless bubbles in each layer, where there is an infinite sky in each bubble. There, it stretches on endlessly with no end, and it is where that world's God is located.
Each god has its own world, and there is a deeper world, the world of the chief god or the abyssal world.

So is the size of each layer infinite?
Yes, each layer of the Silver Sea are infinite in size. There are 99 layers of the Silver Sea already described in this novel. Matter of fact, there are still many layers deeper than 99 in the Silver Sea.

That's all I have to say about the Silver Sea.

Thank you for reading my work and I really appreciate all my readers.

And thank you for supporting me.
 
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Tbf, this is like one of the few pieces of text I see that anyone has bothered to actually post the raws on this site for anyone (like me) to actually look into and see if it's right.

The fact one of the commenters suggested having the MTL's actually looked at is why I commented here. And another one of you actually bothered to post some about the Silver Sea on this site's translation request thread which would be here.

But anywho, the author's explanation sounds like this Silver Sea has more layers than what they wrote in the novel, which would make Anos even higher into 2-B...however many more layers that may be. Pretty neat if you ask me.
 
Qliphoth_Bacikal said:
Tbf, this is like one of the few pieces of text I see that anyone has bothered to actually post the raws on this site for anyone (like me) to actually look into and see if it's right.

The fact one of the commenters suggested having the MTL's actually looked at is why I commented here. And another one of you actually bothered to post some about the Silver Sea on this site's translation request thread which would be here.

But anywho, the author's explanation sounds like this Silver Sea has more layers than what they wrote in the novel, which would make Anos even higher into 2-B...however many more layers that may be. Pretty neat if you ask me.
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1-B Maou Gakuin
 
Qliphoth_Bacikal said:
Here's one if you like.


銀の海の本当の意味を誤解している人はまだまだたくさんいると思います。
シルバーシーの本当の意味の簡単な説明。

銀色の海にはたくさんの層があります、そして各層には無数の泡があります、そして各バブルには無限の空があります、永遠に引き伸ばされる間に終わりはありません、神の世界があるところです。
それぞれの神は独自の世界を持っています、そしてより深い世界があります、それは世界の主な神または深淵の世界です。

では各レイヤーのサイズは無限ですか?
はい、銀の海の各層は無限のサイズを持っています、この小説ですでに説明されている銀の海は99層あります、実際、銀色の海にはまだ99層よりも深い層がたくさんあります。

シルバーシーについての私の説明は以上です。

私の作品を読んでくれてありがとう、そして私は本当にすべての読者に感謝します。

そして私をサポートしてくれてありがとう。

I think there are still many people who misunderstand the true meaning of the Silver Sea.
Here's an easy explanation of the true meaning of the Silver Sea.

There are many layers in the silver sea, and there are countless bubbles in layer, where there is an infinite sky in each bubble. There, it stretches on endlessly with no end, and it is where that world's God is located.
Each god has its own world, and there is a deeper world, the world of the chief god or the abyssal world.

So is the size of each layer infinite?
Yes, each layer of the Silver Sea has infinite size. There are 99 layers of the Silver Sea already described in this novel. Matter of fact, there are still many layers deeper than 99 in the Silver Sea.

That's all I have to say about the Silver Sea.

Thank you for reading my work and I really appreciate all my readers.

And thank you for supporting me.
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I had read that Anos was 2-B because it had not been shown that each layer had an infinite size ... Now that "we have that confirmation", shouldn't his get his tier raised? or is a CRT needed?
 
I mean I just came here out of two things: Interesting in Maou Gakuin, and to help translate some stuff...which as one may see in the TL thread, I've done quite a lot for people there.

As for the tier possibly being raised, DK? I mean I'm just here to help translate these stuff or check to make sure they're being worded right from OG Jap to English.
 
Dereck03 said:
I had read that Anos was 2-B because it had not been shown that each layer had an infinite size ... Now that "we have that confirmation", shouldn't his get his tier raised? or is a CRT needed?
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Even if each layer is infinite in size, it doesn't necessarily mean that the wolrds are infinite numbers to, unless it stated otherwise.
 
Qliphoth_Bacikal said:
I mean I just came here out of two things: Interesting in Maou Gakuin, and to help translate some stuff...which as one may see in the TL thread, I've done quite a lot for people there.

As for the tier possibly being raised, DK? I mean I'm just here to help translate these stuff or check to make sure they're being worded right from OG Jap to English.
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Don't get me wrong bro, thanks for your translation, I'm quoting your message as a reference for everyone here.
 
Ian2296 said:
Even if each layer is infinite in size, it doesn't necessarily mean that the wolrds are infinite numbers to, unless it stated otherwise.
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Exactly, but I'm just saying what I read .... If I remember correctly, the one who said it was Oblivion, but still, we just have to wait for the opinions of more expert people in this.
 
Ian2296 said:
Even if each layer is infinite in size, it doesn't necessarily mean that the worlds are infinite numbers to, unless it stated otherwise.
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If each layer has infinite size then it would require an infinite amount of energy to destroy a layer. Since deep layers are an uncountably greater than shallow layers, then it's possible that to destroy a deep layer, a character would require a higher infinite amount of energy.

Idk if that's an accurate theory and enough to upgrade the verse's tiering tho.

Anyways, please refrain from trying to upgrade the verse's tiering in this thread. I suggest you make a separate CRT if you want to do that.
 
Based on recent translation requests done related to here, this is my understanding now that I know better what the texts of this "Silver Sea" is and what each world is like in those bubbles:
  1. In the world of Militia, where I suppose the setting initially starts before Anos and gang start to go to other places outside, you have the earth which is then surrounded by some 'black dome' that stretches on endlessly and someplace called 'blue dome/sky of the gods" where that worlds deity resides if I read the texts right.
  2. In each world like this, it has a sphere system and the space in each world is distorted so that even if you tried to do something like fly faster than the black dome/sky can stretch out, you'll end up changing back directions and come out from underneath the earth. Hence requiring other means like using a ship.
  3. When Anos and gang left their world, all saw countless bubbles with silver light emitting from them just like with their own when they left, with Anos pointing out (correct me if all of the story is from his perspective) how they're so many of them that it's pointless to even try counting them.
  4. According to WoG/The Author above, not only are the countless bubbles reaffirmed but also that the Silver Sea is made up of layers, each of which has said number of bubbles in them with an infinite black sky/dome as well.
  5. The layers in question that contain these countless bubbles are also said in the same post as being infinite in size, along with the fact that 99 were stated in the novel but they add there are even more layers deeper than the stated 99.
From all of this, we see that each layer contains countless bubbles like the world of Militia that Anos and his friends come from, and there are 99+ layers of them with the same number and infinite black sky as well as each layer being infinite size that allows it to easily contain the bubbles.

Probably already known here at this point and IDK if it'll even be enough to upgrade Anos but at the very least if he can destroy everything including the Silver Sea, that's some level of high-end 2-B to me right there.
 
Qliphoth_Bacikal said:
Based on recent translation requests done related to here, this is my understanding now that I know better what the texts of this "Silver Sea" is and what each world is like in those bubbles:
  1. In the world of Militia, where I suppose the setting initially starts before Anos and gang start to go to other places outside, you have the earth which is then surrounded by some 'black dome' that stretches on endlessly and someplace called 'blue dome/sky of the gods" where that worlds deity resides if I read the texts right.
  2. In each world like this, it has a sphere system and the space in each world is distorted so that even if you tried to do something like fly faster than the black dome/sky can stretch out, you'll end up changing back directions and come out from underneath the earth. Hence requiring other means like using a ship.
  3. When Anos and gang left their world, all saw countless bubbles with silver light emitting from them just like with their own when they left, with Anos pointing out (correct me if all of the story is from his perspective) how they're so many of them that it's pointless to even try counting them.
  4. According to WoG/The Author above, not only are the countless bubbles reaffirmed but also that the Silver Sea is made up of layers, each of which has said number of bubbles in them with an infinite black sky/dome as well.
  5. The layers in question that contain these countless bubbles are also said in the same post as being infinite in size, along with the fact that 99 were stated in the novel but they add there are even more layers deeper than the stated 99.
From all of this, we see that each layer contains countless bubbles like the world of Militia that Anos and his friends come from, and there are 99+ layers of them with the same number and infinite black sky as well as each layer being infinite size that allows it to easily contain the bubbles.

Probably already known here at this point and IDK if it'll even be enough to upgrade Anos but at the very least if he can destroy everything including the Silver Sea, that's some level of high-end 2-B to me right there.
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1-B Maou Gakuin is actually coming fruit
 
Qliphoth_Bacikal said:
Based on recent translation requests done related to here, this is my understanding now that I know better what the texts of this "Silver Sea" is and what each world is like in those bubbles:
  1. In the world of Militia, where I suppose the setting initially starts before Anos and gang start to go to other places outside, you have the earth which is then surrounded by some 'black dome' that stretches on endlessly and someplace called 'blue dome/sky of the gods" where that worlds deity resides if I read the texts right.
  2. In each world like this, it has a sphere system and the space in each world is distorted so that even if you tried to do something like fly faster than the black dome/sky can stretch out, you'll end up changing back directions and come out from underneath the earth. Hence requiring other means like using a ship.
  3. When Anos and gang left their world, all saw countless bubbles with silver light emitting from them just like with their own when they left, with Anos pointing out (correct me if all of the story is from his perspective) how they're so many of them that it's pointless to even try counting them.
  4. According to WoG/The Author above, not only are the countless bubbles reaffirmed but also that the Silver Sea is made up of layers, each of which has said number of bubbles in them with an infinite black sky/dome as well.
  5. The layers in question that contain these countless bubbles are also said in the same post as being infinite in size, along with the fact that 99 were stated in the novel but they add there are even more layers deeper than the stated 99.
From all of this, we see that each layer contains countless bubbles like the world of Militia that Anos and his friends come from, and there are 99+ layers of them with the same number and infinite black sky as well as each layer being infinite size that allows it to easily contain the bubbles.

Probably already known here at this point and IDK if it'll even be enough to upgrade Anos but at the very least if he can destroy everything including the Silver Sea, that's some level of high-end 2-B to me right there.
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Thank you for the translations. I will add it to the blog.

Your understanding of the worlds and the Silver Sea is correct.
Idk if Anos can get Tier 1 based on everything we know so far, but he's at least considered very high into 2-B, and because of the difference between layers, he is also considered an unquantifiable amount into Low 2-C.
 
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What does a single layer of the Silver Sea qualify as? If we determine that and work from there, it'll be easier to determine what the entire Silver Sea as a whole qualifies as.
 
if i'm not wrong i heard that a single layer qualify as a multiverse
 
AncientKing95 said:
Right. Then, if a single layer qualifies as a multiverse, and there are 99+ layers, that would be at least 1-B, wouldn't it?
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I don't know, I think to qualify it to be tier 1, each layer has to be higher dimensional existence.. That is why the CRT was made to improve the cosmology of the verse, but it was rejected for lack of arguments.
 
AncientKing95 said:
Right. Then, if a single layer qualifies as a multiverse, and there are 99+ layers, that would be at least 1-B, wouldn't it?
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Although it has already been said that each layer is in another dimension to the previous one, it is still not enough, we only have to wait for more information
 
I think Tier 1 as it is has something to do with that and/or higher infinities...I think with how the tiering page puts it.

A single layer from all of this has countless bubbles/universes as the author puts it. I wouldn't put it past it if it were to be its own multiverse. And since there's 99+ layers of them, it makes an even bigger multiverse when put altogether.

There was one passage of text I was given to, and saw for myself in the actual novel page that brought up how one world from a deeper level has everything be on a whole different level...which also, funnily enough, can actually be translated as "another dimension" but the way that passage tells it just seems to me like everything is more dense and powerful or whatnot than those of a lower world/layer.

If there is to be information on more of the Silver Sea being Tier 1, I'd definitely be on the watch for it there as the author notes there's still more to it beyond their brief explanation above.
 
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