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Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread

That’s why I often ask for information here, because I feel here it’s the most reliable
considering we actually READ the story unlike many others and aren't 'fans' (fake fans/tiktok users) and ENJOY THE CHARACTERS, this thread really may as well be your best bet.

edit: essentially, if they've never read the story nor can understand the writing, person likely doesn't know what they're talking about. likely. NOT ALL THE TIME (as in debating), but likely.
 
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I have a question
Will Rimuru's 2nd temporal dimension be faster than Anos?
It's not really being faster is being able to move in one more direction which result in some sort of "faster movement". Someone that is moving on a 2nd higher time axis can see the one moving in the lower one like he was freezed in time i guess.
This thing came up in matchup with Xeno goku i think so you should search for it.
Edit: just realized this isn't Tensura discussion
 
It's Arnos Vortegorde and Limulu Tempest.
(Yes, this is from a fan translation)
Gonna make a crt to change Anos name now lol.
As i can see we are in competition for the worst fan translations, here a "new" character from our vol22:
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Gonna make a crt to change Anos name now lol.
As i can see we are in competition for the worst fan translations, here a "new" character from our vol22:
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Seems legit 👍
 
Gonna make a crt to change Anos name now lol.
As i can see we are in competition for the worst fan translations, here a "new" character from our vol22:
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/1343653236875460659/1346383896069013605/20250304_082829.jpg?ex=67c7fd37&is=67c6abb7&hm=9cf14eb3fa55bfb21c4e4ee69bd57cbb0e45c5de262a0a5bcff8ce6edfbd836c&
Now this is a version of the Bible I can get behind
 
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Thank u, that what Im trying to say, is his Immeasurable speed is countless layers in 2nd temporal dimensions degree?
There are no layers in immeasurable speed. The only thing you can argue is the scaling chain, as far as I know how this wiki's tiering system works.

Anos is faster than the immeasurable speed characters in the verse, so I don't know if that answers your question.

Anyway, even if you count the Silver Sea layers, currently it only has 99+ layers, so calling it countless is definitely headcanon.

Each character from the Silver Sea deeper layers than Militia world does have at least immeasurable combat speed, scaling above Eques. Anyway, as I said, it's just a scaling chain as far as VS Wiki standards go. I don't know about other sites.
 
There are no layers in immeasurable speed. The only thing you can argue is the scaling chain, as far as I know how this wiki's tiering system works.

Anos is faster than the immeasurable speed characters in the verse, so I don't know if that answers your question.

Anyway, even if you count the Silver Sea layers, currently it only has 99+ layers, so calling it countless is definitely headcanon.

Each character from the Silver Sea deeper layers than Militia world does have at least immeasurable combat speed, scaling above Eques. Anyway, as I said, it's just a scaling chain as far as VS Wiki standards go. I don't know about other sites.
Thank you so much, I didn’t think I would get an answer directly from you because they thought I was a spy. Lol, Your answer means a lot to me because if “it’s not from Eldenmede, they will not believe it.”
I would ask one more question his speed is not into 2nd temporal dimensions degree?
 
Thank you so much, I didn’t think I would get an answer directly from you because they thought I was a spy. Lol, Your answer means a lot to me because if “it’s not from Eldenmede, they will not believe it.”
Well, it really doesn't matter if you are a spy or not. I'm just sharing the knowledge I have, which won't affect me in any way.

Feel free to directly ask any questions here any of us will answer when we're active. If it's the inverse
I would ask one more question his speed is not into 2nd temporal dimensions degree?
I don't know what to say about this because I don't understand the question properly. I don't remember anyone scaling any verse speed like this. You have any example you are referring? Any characters so far as done this feat.
 
I don't know what to say about this because I don't understand the question properly. I don't remember anyone scaling any verse speed like this. You have any example you are referring? Any characters so far as done this feat.
Rimuru uses the 2nd temporal dimension to scale his speed, it’s about more snapshot than the usual(1st temporal)
 
Anyway, even if you count the Silver Sea layers, currently it only has 99+ layers, so calling it countless is definitely headcanon.

Each character from the Silver Sea deeper layers than Militia world does have at least immeasurable combat speed, scaling above Eques. Anyway, as I said, it's just a scaling chain as far as VS Wiki standards go. I don't know about other sites.
I have a few question. I remember that hax layers after the Arc silver-sea are 99*uncountable, and the weight of order and magic power from all world in the shallow layers flow into the deeper layers. Based on what Balzarondo’s statement, even the speed in the deeper layers is still faster. Doesn’t that make the speed difference between each uncountable layer?
 
I don't know what to say about this because I don't understand the question properly. I don't remember anyone scaling any verse speed like this. You have any example you are referring? Any characters so far as done this feat.
As far as I remember DBH vers supporters, tensura supporters and there are several vers that use it
 
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I have a few question. I remember that hax layers after the Arc silver-sea are 99*uncountable, and the weight of order and magic power from all world in the shallow layers flow into the deeper layers. Based on what Balzarondo’s statement, even the speed in the deeper layers is still faster. Doesn’t that make the speed difference between each uncountable layer?
In a way, yes, but I don't think VBW accepts it as "higher immeasurable speed."
 
As far as I remember DBH vers supporters, tensura supporters and there are several vers that use it
I'm not talking about what the supporters are saying; I'm asking about actual feats. I mean scans or examples of characters doing it.
Rimuru uses the 2nd temporal dimension to scale his speed, it’s about more snapshot than the usual(1st temporal)
Which volume? If you have a scan, share it—let's see.
I have a few question. I remember that hax layers after the Arc silver-sea are 99*uncountable, and the weight of order and magic power from all world in the shallow layers flow into the deeper layers. Based on what Balzarondo’s statement, even the speed in the deeper layers is still faster. Doesn’t that make the speed difference between each uncountable layer?
The speed difference between layers is definitely on an uncountable level, but as I already said, we don't apply layers to immeasurable speed. It's more like a scaling chain. For example, if you compare inhabitants of the deeper layers to some crossover characters with baseline immeasurable speed, you could argue that the deeper layer inhabitants can blitz them since they are much faster than the shallow layer inhabitants with immeasurable speed, meaning they should be faster than those baseline immeasurable speed characters because it's like comparing Reality of Shallow layers is baseline speed for MG characters. But this is different from the 'layers of immeasurable speed' you are claiming.

Eques is a Shallow layers Chief God with immeasurable speed. So Deeper layers inhabitants and Chief gods scales above him because of how speed scaling in the verse works.
 
Feats for supposed immeasurable speed with 2 Time dimension
It's just regular immeasurable speed but sayd character can move in more time direction making them "faster" than who can't. But it isn't really speed.
Which volume? If you have a scan, share it—let's see.
Not really for scaling his speed though, we use information particles for the speed. Everything is in the blog (link in speed section of Rimuru LN).
don't apply layers to immeasurable speed
Exactly, immeasurable speed doesn't really have official layers but characters that can move in an additional higher time axis can be considerate "faster".
 
You want an example in fiction of a character outright stating there 2 time dimensions of immeasurable speed is superior (in the same way finite vs "normal" immeasurable speed) to another with "one dimension"?
Yeah just an example and feat. I'm trying to grast the situation here.
It's just regular immeasurable speed but sayd character can move in more time direction making them "faster" than who can't. But it isn't really speed.
I'm not trying to make a new speed tier what I meant is an actual example for that kind of scenario.
Not really for scaling his speed though, we use information particles for the speed. Everything is in the blog (link in speed section of Rimuru LN).
I don't want to turn it into a Tensura thread, was just curious if there are any solid immeasurable speed feats Rimuru performed. Guess it's the same time stop thing. In the regular universe, they're playing tag with supersonic speed to Sol speed. Checked the complete blog and it's really great teleportation feats are used to argue immeasurable speed for Veldora. So heavily disagree with the immeasurable speed stuff. Anyway this is not Tensura thread we should stop.
Exactly, immeasurable speed doesn't really have official layers but characters that can move in an additional higher time axis can be considerate "faster".
Well I'm not denying the Logic. I'm asking for an example because I haven't seen any character with this specific range of speed.
 
Exactly, immeasurable speed doesn't really have official layers but characters that can move in an additional higher time axis can be considerate "faster".
I understand that logic and don’t understand it at the same time. If you move in a higher time axis, does that mean you’re moving through more snapshots? And what if you can move through the same quantity of snapshots? Shouldn’t it be the same speed or not?
 
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