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Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread

Dread said:
Poison manipulation? Where is that in her profile? Unless you mean resistance to the ability. Also, how did we not add it? The scan is literally there.
And what is self sustain? Never heard of it?

Also, if you mean self-sustenance, there is a scan for it? Huh?
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I know it was resistance, I'm giving examples and idk, not getting drunk doesn't give you resistance to poisons, this has already been rejected in Tate no Yuusha's CRTS, at best it's limited resistance to such, and about self-sustainability it's the same thing, the explanation doesn't imply any of that, simply saying that a being has no life doesn't give you self-sustenance (even because Arcana is literally shown sleeping with Years throughout volume 6) and about immortality 5, that was rejected in a CRT a long time ago, it should be removed, apart from many other things, which I'll talk about later, at the moment I'm busy, yes, and it changes speed to "Massively FTL" and not "Massively FTL+", and it should correct the infinite speed too
 
If you don't want to add scans it is better to add the reference to the chapter and that's it.
 
Pretty sure it's also mendatory to add scans because you can't really expect people to read whole chapters just to see a little scan for powers. Anos profile once almost got deleted because it linked chapters instead of scans
 
Guileal said:
simply saying that a being has no life doesn't give you self-sustenance (even because Arcana is literally shown sleeping with Years throughout volume 6)
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No life means they don't need any Sustenance, and it is a poor argument since it is literally the same with characters who do not need to eat to live but do it for pleasure.
 
Orioreeem said:
Pretty sure it's also mendatory to add scans because you can't really expect people to read whole chapters just to see a little scan for powers. Anos profile once almost got deleted because it linked chapters instead of scans
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Nah, if you don't have scan then add reference, the problem that time is because the scans were literally links to raw chapters.
 
Mhm, noted. Next time, when I create a profile, I will make sure each ability is presented with a reference.
 
Guileal said:
I know it was resistance, I'm giving examples and idk, not getting drunk doesn't give you resistance to poisons, this has already been rejected in Tate no Yuusha's CRTS, at best it's limited resistance to such, and about self-sustainability it's the same thing, the explanation doesn't imply any of that, simply saying that a being has no life doesn't give you self-sustenance (even because Arcana is literally shown sleeping with Years throughout volume 6) and about immortality 5, that was rejected in a CRT a long time ago, it should be removed, apart from many other things, which I'll talk about later, at the moment I'm busy, yes, and it changes speed to "Massively FTL" and not "Massively FTL+", and it should correct the infinite speed too
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Don't use “whataboutism” in arguments. If Gods can't get drunk, they can't get poised. Literally, if you drink a lot, you get poisoned.
 
Dereck03 said:
Nah, if you don't have scan then add reference, the problem that time is because the scans were literally links to raw chapters.
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We did it with many abilities

Immortality Negation (Types 2, 3, 4 & 8) & Regeneration Negation (High-Godly. Anyone who gets their heads removed by Graham gets their Immortality and Regeneration negated[26]), Stealth Mastery & Invisibility (Can become invisible via <Rainel> and conceal his magic power via <Najira> [3]) and his true nature is that of a pure nothingness without reason that takes place after his nothingness (and nonexistent "source") has been destroyed, with him being able to reform his existence even from the pure nothingness that remains whenever he wants to[7]. Abstract Existence (Type 1; Can embody and turn into reality all possibilities simultaneously via <Venejiara>[21]. Additionally, Graham is able to essentially resurrect himself via <Venejiara> by embodying "a possibility in which I have not been destroyed"[22])
 
Anyways most of them will be covered with the next CRT. I am not worried at all.
If you want to downgrade an ability because the reference is not presented, sure thing
 
Orioreeem said:
References link to chapters, which are raw no? So the problem is still there
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But we are literally not making others read raws as if they were scans, the chapter reference is still there. In addition, anyone who wants to make a scan will always have the linked reference chapter to do so.
 
  • There is a recurring problem that the wiki has always faced. We put links to scans, manga panels, youtube videos, etc. on pages to provide evidence for some justification. And after some time, many of the links/videos end up broken. In such scenarios, references will help us quickly grab hold of the required evidence because we'd know exactly where to find them.
  • While uploading pics to the wiki or imgur works to a certain extent, a normal viewer doesn't get the entire context from one or two scans. References will provide them an option to go and check whatever context they want for themselves.
  • It is far more professional and increases our reliability.
  • It is also a great safety cover for us in a potential scenario where image/video links are removed by Fandom, or image hosting sites like Imgur are forced to remove all of their comic book, manga, etc. images due to stricter copyright legislation from the EU and US governments.
If we take into account why references are needed, they all take the hypothetical case that the scan does not work or does not exist, so having a reference to the original chapter or material is enough.
 
Dereck03 said:
There is a recurring problem that the wiki has always faced. We put links to scans, manga panels, youtube videos, etc. on pages to provide evidence for some justification. And after some time, many of the links/videos end up broken. In such scenarios, references will help us quickly grab hold of the required evidence because we'd know exactly where to find them.
  • While uploading pics to the wiki or imgur works to a certain extent, a normal viewer doesn't get the entire context from one or two scans. References will provide them an option to go and check whatever context they want for themselves.
  • It is far more professional and increases our reliability.
  • It is also a great safety cover for us in a potential scenario where image/video links are removed by Fandom, or image hosting sites like Imgur are forced to remove all of their comic book, manga, etc. images due to stricter copyright legislation from the EU and US governments.
If we take into account why references are needed, they all take the hypothetical case that the scan does not work or does not exist, so having a reference to the original chapter or material is enough.
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May I ask why this rule does not apply to 20k pages of wiki?
 
Dereck03 said:
New pages need references. Not the old ones although clearly you can add it if you want, it is like this since the rule was implemented, some people don't follow it but we are not so strict if the profile is well done.
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Have you read what i said?
 
Dread said:
So you want me now to do the hugest downgrade in history? And put over 20k profiles in my downgrade?
Where is common sense here? The user said we have for most of the abilities no scans, and this is wrong; 90% of the abilities got their scans and references.
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Dude, did you even read what I said? I'm not talking about deleting the profile, but just putting scans or references in the profiles to leave the default of the wikia and the back, and this gets worse when much of what you put in the profile is wrong, without reference ends up becoming a disaster, I can give another example, you giving "BFR" with an explanation of "can force reincarnation" that doesn't even make sense or has something to do with power, that would be resuscitation. Another thing is you putting CRTS powers that have already been rejected, such as type 5 immortality or type 1 Acausality, in addition to others, I'm just talking about that because the anime is about to be released and Arcana is a recurring character in the series and it will definitely be very visited
 
Guileal said:
Dude, did you even read what I said? I'm not talking about deleting the profile, but just putting scans or references in the profiles to leave the default of the wikia and the back, and this gets worse when much of what you put in the profile is wrong, without reference ends up becoming a disaster, I can give another example, you giving "BFR" with an explanation of "can force reincarnation" that doesn't even make sense or has something to do with power, that would be resuscitation. Another thing is you putting CRTS powers that have already been rejected, such as type 5 immortality or type 1 Acausality, in addition to others, I'm just talking about that because the anime is about to be released and Arcana is a recurring character in the series and it will definitely be very visited
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Link me to the threads where immortality type 5 from Arcana got rejected as well as Acc type 1 from Arcana?
I was not aware while creating the profile
 
Dread said:
And what if I want to search for a scan in that old page, and it is not presented there? What would happen?
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Just ask supporters. You are being very annoying you know? Asking self-evident things.
 
Dereck03 said:
@Guileal Gods are abstract existences that can only be killed via EE attacks and are not linked to conventional life or death because they do not even live in any sense.. Textbook Immo 5. Acausality 1 was accepted in the Lay additions thread.
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As I recall this was rejected on a Ramadhan CRT a long time ago, and again, this should be explained in the profile, with the explanation that is in the profile clearly people will get confused
 
Guileal said:
As I recall this was rejected on a Radamanth CRT a long time ago, and again, this should be explained in the profile, with the explanation that is in the profile clearly people will get confused
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You're outdated my man

([AE SCAN HERE Gods are conceptual existences] [SCAN HERE that doesn't follow conventional life and death])
 
Dereck03 said:
You're outdated my man

([AE SCAN HERE Gods are conceptual existences] [SCAN HERE that doesn't follow conventional life and death])
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well, I'm basing myself on what I remember of the novel and my knowledge of the wikia's powers, because I already stopped reading the novel at the beginning of last year, and let's face it, with the shallow explanations and without reference it's difficult to understand a lot thing, even more so for those who do not know the verse
 
Guileal said:
well, I'm basing myself on what I remember of the novel and my knowledge of the wikia's powers, because I already stopped reading the novel at the beginning of last year, and let's face it, with the shallow explanations and without reference it's difficult to understand a lot thing, even more so for those who do not know the verse
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We must be clear that we cannot write an essay for each ability. We try that the description + scan (in case we have scan at hand) is enough to give a good explanation of the ability.
 
Well, it would be helpful if you could link the thread where Immortality type 5 was proposed and rejected.
I tried searching for Ramadhanday CRT via the search function (maybe because I'm dumb), but I couldn't find the CRT pertaining to immortality type 5 addition to the verse.

All I could find was a Speed upgrade about Silver Sea Key for the character.
 
Overlord_THE_END said:
Well, it would be helpful if you could link the thread where Immortality type 5 was proposed and rejected.
I tried searching for Ramadhanday CRT via the search function (maybe because I'm dumb), but I couldn't find the CRT pertaining to immortality type 5 addition to the verse.

All I could find was a Speed upgrade about Silver Sea Key for the character.
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naw he is dripping
 
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