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Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread

hello,if edges throws his spear from millitia worlds shots it upwards would reach the 99th layer or even go inside the vortex where many past invioble waters went ?
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
As I already said. She should have all abilities of kind Tiger and Yzark but it's more like Yhwach having all schrifts but not using them.

Also speaking of Arcana. Her ability falls under immunity to causality manipulation ( by verse standard) greater Powernullification. Cm type 1. Power Mimicry and duplication. She changes the order probably something like transmutation or something else. Acausality type 4. Also possibly Acausality 2. Non duality.
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transduality manipulation 🗿
 
wwereymy235 said:
How did other verses get layers anyways?
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The layer basically works like this.
You have resistance to poison>Someone bypasses your resistance by having stronger poison>You proceed to gain stronger resistance so this more strong poison won't affect you again>Now you have layered poison resistance.

Instant Death has level in their hax (Level 2 hax cannot affect level 3 resistance)
 
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Gasfo said:
hello,if edges throws his spear from millitia worlds shots it upwards would reach the 99th layer or even go inside the vortex where many past invioble waters went ?
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What are you talking about?
  1. You mean Eges ? His spear won't reach the 99th layers
  2. Vortex is at the end of Silver Sea if i am correct
  3. Inviolable waters is not a place it's about people who does what they want in Silver Sea
 
Dread said:
You mean inside the layer, there are countless universes with infinite sizes each of them.
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Bruh his spear is from shallow layers. Pretty sure even wiki doesn't accept layers as higher dimensional the verse still works like each layers are higher plane.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Bruh his spear is from shallow layers. Pretty sure even wiki doesn't accept layers as higher dimensional the verse still works like each layers are higher plane.
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Unless there is a statement that each layer views other lower plane, then I don't see issue why wiki don't accept that lol
 
Dread said:
Unless there is a statement that each layer views other lower plane, then I don't see issue why wiki don't accept that lol
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Well that's the problem here.
Also verse lore falls under life can't exist in silver Sea and only bubble can sustain life. I don't think we get to see any R> F difference in layers. May be we can get something when they explore vortex.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Send me a scans where it's stated his spear speed getting reduced ?
Only thing magic bullet world done was reducing its Power.
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Then why didn't Eges blitz his enemies before Sasha destroyed order of magic bullet world? Why was it once again stated that his speed transcends time right after the order is destroyed if it wasn't reduced?
 
Orioreeem said:
Then why didn't Eges blitz his enemies before Sasha destroyed order of magic bullet world?
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He did blizted them but couldn't harm them. Also the fact they were fast enough to catch the spear and there is literally statement for higher dimensionality in novels. Is there any statement for Eges spear speed being lowered due to sts reduction?
Orioreeem said:
Why was it once again stated that his speed transcends time right after the order is destroyed if it wasn't reduced?
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Sasha just destroyed the order and turned it into normal reality.
Orioreeem said:
Ah yes infinite speed feat>immeasurable speed feat.
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☹️☹️☹️. Now i am done if you think Infinite speed> immeasurable speed
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Also the fact they were fast enough to catch the spear and there is literally statement for higher dimensionality in novels.
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Why weren't they fast enough after Sasha destroyed magic bullet world, why was his speed once again mentioned as a reason he destroyed them right AFTER Sasha destroyed order? Post that statement.
EldemadeDityjon said:
Sasha just destroyed the order and turned it into normal reality.
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Yes and that stopped the stat reduction
EldemadeDityjon said:
☹️☹️☹️. Now i am done if you think Infinite speed> immeasurable speed
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I was being sarcastic if you didn't notice.
EldemadeDityjon said:
He did blizted them but couldn't harm them.
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Scans?
 
Orioreeem said:
Why weren't they fast enough after Sasha destroyed magic bullet world, why was his speed once again mentioned as a reason he destroyed them right AFTER Sasha destroyed order? Post that statement.
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Berenizia Noin: It is difficult to inflict a mortal wound with a magic spear. Eges was aiming to detonate a <Magic Deep Melt Wave Cannon> at close range of them.

The fact that he used the blood lance to prevent them from firing it was one of his strategies to make them let their guard down.

He wanted them to think that they could win if they could shoot, but in fact, he was planning to penetrate the magic bullet at the moment of shooting.

"You're too careless just because it's a spear. If this were not the world of magic bullets, they would have skewered everyone long ago."

With a gleam in his eye, Eges said.
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Here he literally negged all of the 8 captains magic bullet fire arms in an instant and I don't see anywhere it's stated his spear speed getting reduced. Also for the fact even if it did that's because of reality difference not because of status difference. Tell me why would the speed would be reduced. Only thing magic bullet world reduced was AP of things which aren't based on magic bullets
Orioreeem said:
Yes and that stopped the stat reduction
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Need scans for magic bullet world reducing status of things. Then why would EGA working fine ?☹️.

Also don't see where you getting this status Reduction thing especially deeper layers speed is compared to dimensions. Its not compared based on character it's literally compared based on reality of deeper layers world
 
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I'm not saying it doesn't reduce power, it reduces power and speed. EGA was affected in earlier chapters where it took 4 of them to destroy a mountine.
 
Orioreeem said:
I'm not saying it doesn't reduce power, it reduces power and speed. EGA was affected in earlier chapters where it took 4 of them to destroy a mountine.
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Not really. What happened was that Anos needed to augment EGA's destructive ability to destroy things in the magic bullet world.Everyone knows that to destroy ordinary objects and beings from deep layers it is necessary to deepen their attributes and adapt to the deep reality of the world.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Well that's the problem here.
Also verse lore falls under life can't exist in silver Sea and only bubble can sustain life. I don't think we get to see any R> F difference in layers. May be we can get something when they explore vortex.
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Ngl since we will be getting plot manipulation soon, I don't see it impossible for getting R>F if the author wants to make his verse stronger.
 
Dread said:
Ya I know
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Uncountable infinity layers would straight up be higher D.
Dread said:
Ngl since we will be getting plot manipulation soon, I don't see it impossible for getting R>F if the author wants to make his verse stronger.
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We're possibly getting plot based off of what details we see in the story not something explicitly mentioned by the author so don't get your hopes up
 
Thinking about it, Before Anos disrupted the order of destruction, all things were destroyed by sargeldonave and all things recreated by artieltonoa.

Shouldn't all those who were existing long before the order was disrupted like celis, graham, anos, eges get resistance to Conceptual Manipulation type 1, Law Manipulation, Fate Manipulation, Death Manipulation, Existence Erasure, Life Manipulation, Ice Manipulation, Fire Manipulation, BFR (if forced reincarnation can be considered as BFR), resistance negation Seeing as they were neither destroyed no reincarnated by Sargeldonave and Artieltonoa? Unfortunately, Resistance to Immortality Negation can't be gotten once you resist the CM.
 
Salgedonave should absolutely work on them. Anos could only step into the Sun of Doom with his chaotic eyes active. Otherwise this suggests all those people can resist the strongest ability in the series (MEoCD)
 
Tatsumi504 said:
Thinking about it, Before Anos disrupted the order of destruction, all things were destroyed by sargeldonave and all things recreated by artieltonoa.

Shouldn't all those who were existing long before the order was disrupted like celis, graham, anos, eges get resistance to Conceptual Manipulation type 1, Law Manipulation, Fate Manipulation, Death Manipulation, Existence Erasure, Life Manipulation, Ice Manipulation, Fire Manipulation, BFR (if forced reincarnation can be considered as BFR), resistance negation Seeing as they were neither destroyed no reincarnated by Sargeldonave and Artieltonoa? Unfortunately, Resistance to Immortality Negation can't be gotten once you resist the CM.
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No. Serge and artiel is work by balance and circulation of the world, work by order. Not arbitary destroy/create everything, they can but in general they just follow the order
 
Tatsumi504 said:
Then what was the big deal? Why did Anos want to remove them?
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Arnos dont remove the order (and arnos just do it to serge). Arnos just limit the order

If arnos destroy the order, everything will not get destroyed, everyone is immortal, there are no death. But is mean there are no life, because creation and destruction is inextricably intertwined with each other. In other word the reality will fall into chaos
 
Actually, I'm ready with my new CRT. My hand already itching for post that

But since we already talk about not upgrading MGF for few time, then i'll wait
 
Fixxed said:
Actually, I'm ready with my new CRT. My hand already itching for post that

But since we already talk about not upgrading MGF for few time, then i'll wait
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Anyways can you give me the scan of when Anos destroyed all possibilities with his Magic eyes of chaotic destruction?
 
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