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Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread

Overall, I agree with cosmo, Anos key insted of 7-B, should be High 7-A or higher, as vaping the holy lake places him well above city level.
 
in MTL destroying principle sword was translated into ridiculous sword lol,I know machine tranlastion is not really exactly but
 
Here in the wiki they say that this sword is ridiculously strong..So MTL is ok
 
Balzarondo made the statement that even if he unleashed a spell to destroy their (Anos and co.) small world, it wouldn't damage their ship. Here's what people seem to overlook; Balzarondo and his crew are from Holy Sword World Hyphoria. Hyphoria is a deep world, 21+ layers

Just wanted to ask if this is true
 
Balzarondo made the statement that even if he unleashed a spell to destroy their (Anos and co.) small world, it wouldn't damage their ship. Here's what people seem to overlook; Balzarondo and his crew are from Holy Sword World Hyphoria. Hyphoria is a deep world, 21+ layers

Just wanted to ask if this is true
'In this small world, which exists deeper than your small world, the power of everything is in another dimension. Strength, speed, toughness, magic power, everything. Even the resistance of a grain of air would be a weight to you. If you unleash your shallow, world-destroying magic, you will not be able to destroy a single ship here.

Balzarondo said admonishingly.

He didn't want to destroy me. He wanted me to surrender
 
'In this small world, which exists deeper than your small world, the power of everything is in another dimension. Strength, speed, toughness, magic power, everything. Even the resistance of a grain of air would be a weight to you. If you unleash your shallow, world-destroying magic, you will not be able to destroy a single ship here.

Balzarondo said admonishingly.

He didn't want to destroy me. He wanted me to surrender
So it is wrong
 
'In this small world, which exists deeper than your small world, the power of everything is in another dimension. Strength, speed, toughness, magic power, everything. Even the resistance of a grain of air would be a weight to you. If you unleash your shallow, world-destroying magic, you will not be able to destroy a single ship here.

Balzarondo said admonishingly.

He didn't want to destroy me. He wanted me to surrender
Here it is already written that everything is in another dimension, but still deeper layers are not accepted as HD😔.
 
'In this small world, which exists deeper than your small world, the power of everything is in another dimension. Strength, speed, toughness, magic power, everything. Even the resistance of a grain of air would be a weight to you. If you unleash your shallow, world-destroying magic, you will not be able to destroy a single ship here.

Balzarondo said admonishingly.

He didn't want to destroy me. He wanted me to surrender
What I am asking is if the world Balzarondo fought with this character is a deep layer world(21+ deep).
 
Balzarondo made the statement that even if he unleashed a spell to destroy their (Anos and co.) small world, it wouldn't damage their ship. Here's what people seem to overlook; Balzarondo and his crew are from Holy Sword World Hyphoria. Hyphoria is a deep world, 21+ layers

Just wanted to ask if this is true

'In this small world, which exists deeper than your small world, the power of everything is in another dimension. Strength, speed, toughness, magic power, everything. Even the resistance of a grain of air would be a weight to you. If you unleash your shallow, world-destroying magic, you will not be able to destroy a single ship here.
Balzarondo stated that because his world was deeper than Anos' world, not because it was located 21+ layers deep, a world-destroying spell from Anos' world wouldn't be able to destroy a single ship in Balzarondo's world.

The difference between layers is also the same, since fire dew flows evenly from shallow to deep.
 
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Balzarondo stated that because his world was deeper, not because it was located 21+ layers deep, a world-destroying spell wouldn't be able to destroy a ship.

The difference between layers is also the same, since fire dew flows evenly from shallow to deep.
Thanks
 
I also wanted to ask a question about the Shogi since I get confused about it.
Is it that the game can only be played in deep world in a deep layer(21+) or it can be played between the layers, like a layer 2 world using a layer 1 world for the game.
 
Balzarondo stated that because his world was deeper than Anos' world, not because it was located 21+ layers deep, a world-destroying spell from Anos' world wouldn't be able to destroy a single ship in Balzarondo's world.

The difference between layers is also the same, since fire dew flows evenly from shallow to deep.
No, he has to be talking about the world being at least 21+ layers deep. For one, he made an emphasis on shallow, world-destroying magic, not being able to destroy a single ship. Magic that originates in layers 1-10 is shallow. Furthermore, Balzarondo did state that his world was deeper than Anos' world. And his ship is at least 21 if not many more layers deep. There's no reason he would need to literally emphasize how many layers deep they were. There's no guarantee that Balzarondo would have made that statement if he confronted Anos and co. only a single layer deeper.

You're right, the difference between layers are the same. All layers are the exact same, the only difference between them is their position in the Silver Sea. What's "different" are the worlds in each layer. Fire dew begins to further stack up the further down you get. So the deeper the world, the more fire dew it possesses, which affects everything else in that world.
 
Balzarondo made the statement that even if he unleashed a spell to destroy their (Anos and co.) small world, it wouldn't damage their ship. Here's what people seem to overlook; Balzarondo and his crew are from Holy Sword World Hyphoria. Hyphoria is a deep world, 21+ layers

Just wanted to ask if this is true
Yes, this is true. The Holy Sword World Hyphoria is a deep world.

Fire dew affects everything in a world. The amount of magic power in it, the strength of it's Order, how deep the magic of that world is, and the weight of the world, which determines how many layers further it sinks into the Silver Sea.
 
You do know that's just a way of saying that everything is on another level compared to before? They're not literally in another dimension.
There is a partial possiblity of what you said.
Also, I haven't seen a 2B multiverse holding so many 2B multiverses. And according to Ultima(a timeline containing multiple timelines in its own), should be regarded as a low C structure. Also Anos has transcended both space and time(a very basic requirement for low 1C), and only we have to prove that he can destroy the same in the past,present and future. Also WN is far from end and something other than the Silver Sea will appear. So we can expect many things bro.
 
Balzarondo stated that because his world was deeper than Anos' world, not because it was located 21+ layers deep, a world-destroying spell from Anos' world wouldn't be able to destroy a single ship in Balzarondo's world.

The difference between layers is also the same, since fire dew flows evenly from shallow to deep.
To further clarify, Balzarondo stated, "In this small world, which exists deeper than your small world, the power of everything is in another dimension."

This small world that he's referring to is 21+ layers deep. Balzarondo didn't say something like "as long as this world is deeper than yours the power of everything will be in a different dimension", which implies that how much deeper the world is is irrelevant, he said, "In this small world...", and again, the small world that he's referring to is 21+ layers deep.
 
Balzarondo states "In this small world, which exists deeper than your small world, the power of everything is in another dimension."

He ONLY states that his world is more powerful than Anos' world because it exists deeper than Anos' world. He never states that his world is more powerful than Anos' world because it is located 21+ layers deeper than Anos' world.

Assuming he was specifically talking about the difference between layer 0 and layer 21+ is a baseless and unnecessary assumption.
 
Balzarondo states "In this small world, which exists deeper than your small world, the power of everything is in another dimension."

He ONLY states that his world is more powerful than Anos' world because it exists deeper than Anos' world. He never states that his world is more powerful than Anos' world because it is located 21+ layers deeper than Anos' world.

Assuming he was specifically talking about the difference between layer 0 and layer 21+ is a baseless and unnecessary assumption.
You're the one overthinking what he's saying and trying to apply it to mean that it doesn't matter how much deeper it is, as long as it is.

All Balzarondo states is "In this small world, which exists deeper than your small world, the power of everything is in another dimension." He didn't say "because it is deeper", which would mean that it doesn't matter how much deeper it is. He just says, "...which exists deeper...", and it is 21+ layers deep.



You claiming that it doesn't matter how much deeper a layer is happens to be the true assumption here.
 
You're the one overthinking what he's saying and trying to apply it to mean that it doesn't matter how much deeper it is, as long as it is.

All Balzarondo states is "In this small world, which exists deeper than your small world, the power of everything is in another dimension." He didn't say "because it is deeper", which would mean that it doesn't matter how much deeper it is. He just says, "...which exists deeper...", and it is 21+ layers deep.



You claiming that it doesn't matter how much deeper a layer is happens to be the true assumption here.
Balzarondo would have said the same thing no matter which layer it was, example...Anos is from layer 1, anyone from layer 2 would have said the same thing and so on and so forth.
 
Balzarondo would have said the same thing no matter which layer it was, example...Anos is from layer 1, anyone from layer 2 would have said the same thing and so on and so forth.
No he wouldn't have, and you don't have proof of that, so stop making assumptions.
 
Of course, a world from a layer deeper would be more powerful than a world from the layer right above it. Just not to the extent that is shown in the Balzarondo example, as the difference between the layers in that example is at least 21+.
 
So the actual difference between two layers like layer 1 and 2 hasn't been shown in the series yet
It's explained in the blog.
There's an at least uncountable difference between the layers.

Don't just believe everything AncientKing says.

There's no need to counter anything he says since he contradicts himself so much.
 
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So the actual difference between two layers like layer 1 and 2 hasn't been shown in the series yet
We've seen the difference between layer 0 and layer 21+, which is a difference of at least 21 layers. The deeper the layer a world is in, the more powerful it is overall. That is confirmed. A world in layer 2 is on average going to be more powerful than a world from layer 1. I'm sure nobody will deny that.

However, you can't argue that the difference between a single layer is as great as people make it out to be. Because the power of Balzarondo and his men, as well as the durability of his ship, and where they fought, were all 21+ layers deep. That's the power difference of 21+ layers, not a single layer. So again, yes, worlds that are even a single layer deeper will be more powerful than worlds a single layer higher, but not to the extent people think.

And yes, the number of layers makes a difference. Everything that has to do with how powerful a world and it's inhabitants are stems from the amount of fire dew it possesses. The more fire dew it possesses, the more powerful everything in the world is, and the deeper it will 'sink' into the Silver Sea. This is even confirmed in imZer0Null's blog.
 
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should Anos's resistance to CM type 3 be removed?currently he has it because he can tank sun of doom,however that attack didn't affect anyone except Avos
 
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