Manipulation of matter

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I've seen a lot of similar comments lately about the manipulation of matter at the atomic and molecular level




That's just AP, where a character shows a huge amount of energy and that character can reduce that character to the atomic, molecular level, and destroy all cells, there's nothing like that added anywhere on Wiki or an explanation, but it's quite clear that that character can destroy that character through energy.


Since the page makes it very specific that whoever destroys such a character at such a level can obtain matter manipulation at such a level

The ability to manipulate individual atoms, ions, and isotopes. At this level, users can change the nature of atoms and their properties, allowing them to transmute one thing into another, destroy atoms to obliterate targets, and completely rearrange atomic structures to create virtually anything.The user may also be able to manipulate the radioactive decay within certain atoms and isotopes as well.

What i really want to be able to get out of this is a better explanation for characters who achieve such a feat through their energies that are capable of destroying enemies on an atomic, molecular, cellular and etc. level (add something to page matter manipulation or whatever).

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

The imgur image and link dosen't work.. I will revaluate this later, when that has been fixed.

 

[Rutæhh]

no this is a difference in AP.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

The imgur image and link dosen't work.. I will revaluate this later, when that has been fixed.

Here it is working fine, although the image is just an example to be used.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

no this is a difference in AP.

But where exactly explains these things?

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Just to be clear, you intend to use this CRT to set a firm standard within the pages for how we index atomic/molecular matter manipulation that's achieved through sheer AP differences?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Any chemical bond,—including those between individual atoms,—can be broken with enough energy; hell, even the innermost particles of their nuclei can be split, hence why Atomization and Subatomic Destruction are applicable destruction values.

However, Matter Manipulation, as its name suggests, involves manipulating matter.
Using an energy blast to break the chemical bonds between atoms is manipulating energy.

 

[GarrixianXD]

This page should help you:

Calculations

In order to determine a character's Destructive Capacity, we must first look through the character's feats, and determine how much energy was exerted to preform such a feat. Sometimes the destructive capacity of the feat can be determined easily with no need of a calculation, but most of the...

vsbattles.fandom.com

As you see, atomisation is rather something done by high energy levels which isn’t necessarily matter manipulation at an atomic level.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Here it is working fine

Now it is working for me to

First of all, what are you trying to achive exactly (maybe I am just tired, or jus simply unable to understand), but what is the purpose of this thread?

Are you trying to change the explanation for matter manipulation?

Trying to give "cellular destruction" (not a real ability as far as i am aware) to energy?


Also

That is DC not AP



Lastly This pic you sent is on a cellular level.. It is extremly far away from being matter manipulation. (Current estimates are that it is curently around 42 million molecules in a cell.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Just to be clear, you intend to use this CRT to set a firm standard within the pages for how we index atomic/molecular matter manipulation that's achieved through sheer AP differences?

Exactly

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Now it is working for me to

First of all, what are you trying to achive exactly (maybe I am just tired, or jus simply unable to understand), but what is the purpose of this thread?

Are you trying to change the explanation for matter manipulation?

Trying to give "cellular destruction" (not a real ability as far as i am aware) to energy?


Also

That is DC not AP



Lastly This pic you sent is on a cellular level.. It is extremly far away from being matter manipulation. (Current estimates are that it is curently around 42 million molecules in a cell.

Like, the image is an example to talk about the characters, which destroys them at such levels, such as destroying atoms, molecules, and cells

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Like, the image is an example to talk about the characters, which destroys them at such levels, such as destroying atoms, molecules, and cells

For me the scan only says "At last Boo is erdicated... Every cell of it's body complelty oblitirated" (sorry for the spelling mistakes.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

For me the scan only says "At last Boo is erdicated... Every cell of it's body complelty oblitirated" (sorry for the spelling mistakes.

What I'm really looking for is an on-page example to say about the topic, although be in an easy way so that everyone can better understand the subject.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

This page should help you:

Calculations

In order to determine a character's Destructive Capacity, we must first look through the character's feats, and determine how much energy was exerted to preform such a feat. Sometimes the destructive capacity of the feat can be determined easily with no need of a calculation, but most of the...

vsbattles.fandom.com

As you see, atomisation is rather something done by energy and joule values alone which isn’t necessarily matter manipulation at an atomic level.

Why is this in calculations? Shouldn't this be on the material manipulation page explaining it? To avoid the risk of people having doubts about the subject.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Nobody except for you has had this much trouble with this subject.

 

[GarrixianXD]

Why is this in calculations? Shouldn't this be on the material manipulation page explaining it? To avoid the risk of people having doubts about the subject.

It's quite common sense honestly.

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

@LuffyRuffy46307 Since you've received an answer, would you be fine with the next admin/thread mod who sees this thread closing it?

 

[Damage3245]

I guess we could add a clarification note to the Matter Manipulation page that merely blasting something into atoms is not sufficient for Matter Manipulation / Atomic Manipulation.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

@LuffyRuffy46307 Since you've received an answer, would you be fine with the next admin/thread mod who sees this thread closing it?

Yes