- 10,687
- 6,335
So in Episode 38 "Judging Omi", Chase Young creates unleashes his power and does this.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...:_Chase_Young_Plunges_The_World_Into_Darkness
...a pretty massive feat, splitting the Earth into two, causing what appears to be a planetary storm and so on. All with just hand gestures to boot.
Now I know this may seem like a outlier as Chase Youngs profile only list him at Low 7-C in base but here me out.
Chase himself has stated numerous times that he is above Shen Gong Wu calling them "toys" or "cruches for real power", and has only ever used them to trick his enemies or something similar (like BFRing Master Fung to another universe). Wuya sldo implies that Heylin Magic is superior then Shen Gong Wu as a whole.
""Ha, Sheng Gong Wu? I am so beyond them now. Let me show you what Heylin magic can do"
And Chase Young uses Heylin magic as his primary source of power. This is important because the Lunar Locket was calculated to be 86 Yottatons at a low end. I say low end because Jack and Raksha have much better feats with the Locket that are currently uncalced (I may attempt it soon).
Additionally, all of Chase Youngs feats prior to this one were done very casually. His extremely casual attacks have consistently been shown to completely and utterly overpower anyone he's fighting for example. His "partial destruction of the temple" that we currently use as his justification for Low 7-C was actually the side effect of this feat for example. His town burning feat as his Lizard form was done over 1,000 years ago in the shows timeline and his town burning feat w/Omi's power during "Saving Omi" was only done to prove a point to Omi (that he was evil, not good) and took no effort.
The Monks couldn't even phase Chase, let alone hurt him. The combined attacks from Kimiko, Clay and Raimundo giving it their all didn't even make him flinch let alone hurt him. Also, both his "humanoid" and "lizard' forms were capable of fighting Master Monk Guan on equal terms, so I believe the two forms are equal in power, or at least very close.
The only times they were able to hurt him (other then the last arc, were the monks recieved several upgrades) were when they were in their "Dragon x Kamei" formation, which gives them a pretty massive temporary power boost. While in the form, they were able to defeat The Fearsome Four, which were stated by both Master Fung and Wuya to be able to destroy the world. Though, this was most likely a slow, more gradual destruction of the world scenario. They also hit him when he was off guard so take from that what you will.
Also, Wuya has a Planet level feat, and a country level statement (She stated she could sink the United Kingdom during the Wuya arc), and Chase is around as strong as her, which further proves that Small Town rating is simply to low for Chase.
Finally, in "Finding Omi", Omi is able to extinguish and reverse Chases darkness, fixing the world and getting rid of his planetary fire ball. So now we have an example of a weaker character preforming a similar feat, though probably not quite as impressive feat. I think these points help dispel the claim that this could be an outlier.
Screenshots.
I can provide scans and timestamps for these feats/statements if need be.
So for his tiering, I believe it should be changed too
Attack Potency: Large Planet level (Created a planetary storm and plunged the Earth into darkness with just a hand gesture. Completely split the world in two and created a fire ball that was larger than the Earth and Moon) | Large Planet level (Traded blows with Master Monk Guan, who stalemated his base form) | At least Large Planet level (Reshaped the whole world, in order to create a place of complete chaos. Has the combined power of his and Omi's, who Chase has stated had the strength capable of defeating him), likely higher (His reality warping powers should scale to that of Wuya, who could warp the surface of the Sun).
Heylin Dragon would likely stay the same.
Durability would also scale since he traded blows with Master Monk Guan, who was almost his equal.
Speed would largely be the same, though the Earth did split at around Mach 2000+ which may be a slight speed upgrade (He's currently scaled to the Mach 1100~ Dojo), if that can scale, that is. Chase does summon cloud-to-ground lightning twice though. Once here in "Judging Omi" and the other in "Bird of Prey" (the way its animated makes it hard to screencap). This might mean he has MHS+ attack speed with certain spells.
As for scaling, Chase stated that Omi could defeat him once Omi hit his peak. EoS Raimundo actually damages Chase, Guan and Hannibal (who scales directly off of Chase) near the end of "Time After Time: II" and is implied to fight him at the cliff hanger ending.
Grandmaster Dashi scales directly to Wuya as he defeated her, and Wuya is probably stronger then Chase as indicated by the fact that Chase didn't want Wuya to have full power. That alone would probably mean that the two are at least comparable in power.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...:_Chase_Young_Plunges_The_World_Into_Darkness
...a pretty massive feat, splitting the Earth into two, causing what appears to be a planetary storm and so on. All with just hand gestures to boot.
Now I know this may seem like a outlier as Chase Youngs profile only list him at Low 7-C in base but here me out.
Chase himself has stated numerous times that he is above Shen Gong Wu calling them "toys" or "cruches for real power", and has only ever used them to trick his enemies or something similar (like BFRing Master Fung to another universe). Wuya sldo implies that Heylin Magic is superior then Shen Gong Wu as a whole.
""Ha, Sheng Gong Wu? I am so beyond them now. Let me show you what Heylin magic can do"
And Chase Young uses Heylin magic as his primary source of power. This is important because the Lunar Locket was calculated to be 86 Yottatons at a low end. I say low end because Jack and Raksha have much better feats with the Locket that are currently uncalced (I may attempt it soon).
Additionally, all of Chase Youngs feats prior to this one were done very casually. His extremely casual attacks have consistently been shown to completely and utterly overpower anyone he's fighting for example. His "partial destruction of the temple" that we currently use as his justification for Low 7-C was actually the side effect of this feat for example. His town burning feat as his Lizard form was done over 1,000 years ago in the shows timeline and his town burning feat w/Omi's power during "Saving Omi" was only done to prove a point to Omi (that he was evil, not good) and took no effort.
The Monks couldn't even phase Chase, let alone hurt him. The combined attacks from Kimiko, Clay and Raimundo giving it their all didn't even make him flinch let alone hurt him. Also, both his "humanoid" and "lizard' forms were capable of fighting Master Monk Guan on equal terms, so I believe the two forms are equal in power, or at least very close.
The only times they were able to hurt him (other then the last arc, were the monks recieved several upgrades) were when they were in their "Dragon x Kamei" formation, which gives them a pretty massive temporary power boost. While in the form, they were able to defeat The Fearsome Four, which were stated by both Master Fung and Wuya to be able to destroy the world. Though, this was most likely a slow, more gradual destruction of the world scenario. They also hit him when he was off guard so take from that what you will.
Also, Wuya has a Planet level feat, and a country level statement (She stated she could sink the United Kingdom during the Wuya arc), and Chase is around as strong as her, which further proves that Small Town rating is simply to low for Chase.
Finally, in "Finding Omi", Omi is able to extinguish and reverse Chases darkness, fixing the world and getting rid of his planetary fire ball. So now we have an example of a weaker character preforming a similar feat, though probably not quite as impressive feat. I think these points help dispel the claim that this could be an outlier.
Screenshots.
I can provide scans and timestamps for these feats/statements if need be.
So for his tiering, I believe it should be changed too
Attack Potency: Large Planet level (Created a planetary storm and plunged the Earth into darkness with just a hand gesture. Completely split the world in two and created a fire ball that was larger than the Earth and Moon) | Large Planet level (Traded blows with Master Monk Guan, who stalemated his base form) | At least Large Planet level (Reshaped the whole world, in order to create a place of complete chaos. Has the combined power of his and Omi's, who Chase has stated had the strength capable of defeating him), likely higher (His reality warping powers should scale to that of Wuya, who could warp the surface of the Sun).
Heylin Dragon would likely stay the same.
Durability would also scale since he traded blows with Master Monk Guan, who was almost his equal.
Speed would largely be the same, though the Earth did split at around Mach 2000+ which may be a slight speed upgrade (He's currently scaled to the Mach 1100~ Dojo), if that can scale, that is. Chase does summon cloud-to-ground lightning twice though. Once here in "Judging Omi" and the other in "Bird of Prey" (the way its animated makes it hard to screencap). This might mean he has MHS+ attack speed with certain spells.
As for scaling, Chase stated that Omi could defeat him once Omi hit his peak. EoS Raimundo actually damages Chase, Guan and Hannibal (who scales directly off of Chase) near the end of "Time After Time: II" and is implied to fight him at the cliff hanger ending.
Grandmaster Dashi scales directly to Wuya as he defeated her, and Wuya is probably stronger then Chase as indicated by the fact that Chase didn't want Wuya to have full power. That alone would probably mean that the two are at least comparable in power.
