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Mahoraga vs Yoru

Hecky2222 said:
That just sounds like some NLF, bro, unless you are telling me everyone should be High 3A. That makes sense, but I don't see right now how he's supposed to adapt to every till High 3A attack, ngl.
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It's not NLF since the limit is clearly defined (High 3-A being the peak due to Perfect Sphere, and Mahoraga being able to adapt to Dabura's Relativistic KE increasing his AP absurdly [which depending on how the next chapters play out, and assuming use real life RKE rules can go up to Infinity as well.])

Not everyone should be High 3-A. Mahoraga can just indirectly become immune to High 3-A damage via adapting to the source of said High 3-A strength, or just adapt to High 3-A strength so long as he has the time to adapt and isn't killed before he gets the chance (As demonstrated by Dabura).
 
LaserPrecision said:
It's not NLF since the limit is clearly defined (High 3-A being the peak due to Perfect Sphere, and Mahoraga being able to adapt to Dabura's Relativistic KE increasing his AP absurdly [which depending on how the next chapters play out, and assuming use real life RKE rules can go up to Infinity as well.])

Not everyone should be High 3-A. Mahoraga can just indirectly become immune to High 3-A damage via adapting to the source of said High 3-A strength, or just adapt to High 3-A strength so long as he has the time to adapt and isn't killed before he gets the chance (As demonstrated by Dabura).
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How did he die to Hollow Purple then? By everyone, I meant only Gojo and Sukuna APs.
 
Hecky2222 said:
Ye I don't see how he's supposed to adapt there to 7A 7B instant attacks, ngl.
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No, I wasn't say they would adapt to that level of power instantly. I was saying if the opponent didn't kill Mahoraga with 7-B or 7-A attacks right away, Mahoraga would simply regenerate and adapt to it after his wheel turns enough. It has never been instant adaptation, but always gradual.
 
LaserPrecision said:
No, I wasn't say they would adapt to that level of power instantly. I was saying if the opponent didn't kill Mahoraga with 7-B or 7-A attacks right away, Mahoraga would simply regenerate and adapt to it after his wheel turns enough. It has never been instant adaptation, but always gradual.
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Ye then probably I misunderstood your premise; my bad
 
Ngl, using current Mahoraga regen might not be ideal. Its amped by a Binding Vow, which wouldn't be present if its Maho from when Sukuna was using it. In any case, stomp due to Invulnerability shenanigans.
Funny how Yoru stomps Sukuna but loses to his summon xd
 
Hecky2222 said:
This just confuses me, bro

You guys are telling me he adapts to High 3A attacks, but he died to Hollow Purple, which is city or large town level?
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Nah Arkenis is just wrong
Mahoraga adapted to liquid metal, to the point where anything made with it is irrelevant for him, so even a perfect sphere made out of liquid metal could not do anything to him
He didnt actually adapt to the infinite pressure itself
 
LaserPrecision said:
No, I wasn't say they would adapt to that level of power instantly. I was saying if the opponent didn't kill Mahoraga with 7-B or 7-A attacks right away, Mahoraga would simply regenerate and adapt to it after his wheel turns enough. It has never been instant adaptation, but always gradual.
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back to back gun goddess bullet + nuke punch to delete him before he regenerates 😖
 
also if we're still assuming nuclear yoru, i'd vote for her. i don't think mahoraga can kill her 40 million times before she starts spamming BFR hell doors or weaponizes him. even if conventional attacks don't work, i'm pretty sure her being killed a couple of times would trigger the "facing death allows you to see curses" thing. even if it's something that happens at random, it surely can't be 1 in 40 million. once she gains sight of him, weaponification is on the table.
 
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Hm. Weaponification does seem to power null, wonder if that would be able to nullify the regen and all
 
No votes were ever gonna happen bc this is a stomp unless you use a key she doesn't have yet. This was more of a casual & hypothetical discussion than a debate. Probably should've been closed 3 pages ago.

VoidGoji said:
Hm. Weaponification does seem to power null, wonder if that would be able to nullify the regen and all
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It let her beat this character instantly, so
 
Zabazab said:
No votes were ever gonna happen bc this is a stomp unless you use a key she doesn't have yet. This was more of a casual & hypothetical discussion than a debate. Probably should've been closed 3 pages ago.
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nah, she's getting the key in like a few days. instead of starting a new thread and repeating the same arguments, this one should stay open and just get changed to yoru's new key
 
Zabazab said:
No votes were ever gonna happen bc this is a stomp unless you use a key she doesn't have yet. This was more of a casual & hypothetical discussion than a debate. Probably should've been closed 3 pages ago.
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I'm pretty sure Yoru with her Gauntlets can win even with the stats on her profile now. If we ignore the invisibility and invulnerability stuff, which kinda prevents this matchup from being a thing. Unless we give Yoru sufficient cursed energy to be able to see and harm Mahoraga.

Other than that, curses and shikigami are solely inverse techniques.
 
LaserPrecision said:
Uhm, just because the sphere was stationary doesn't mean the pressure wasn't active? Can you substantiate that claim?
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Sukuna didn't get killed by the sphere even tho sukuna doesn't get the privilege of being adapted to a technique, he only is able to take the attacks so mahoraga can adapt
 
Crazy how Curses and Shikigami are getting their invuln removed when a guy literally several tiers above a curse can't hurt it without a cursed tool
 
Buraqibear said:
Crazy how Curses and Shikigami are getting their invuln removed when a guy literally several tiers above a curse can't hurt it without a cursed tool
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What do you mean getting it removed? Didn't we just have a CRT not even a week ago that solidified them as having Invul?
 
It isn't getting removed? Damn how much happened since the start of this thread it ain't even that old. Mahoraga just wins then
 
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Just use Verse Equalization. Devils are concepts that become more powerful based on fear. In JJK, fear is a negative emotion that leaks out as C.E., meaning all Devils should have sufficient C.E. Then the matchup becomes possible.
 
GunshyFever said:
Just use Verse Equalization. Devils are concepts that become more powerful based on fear. In JJK, fear is a negative emotion that leaks out as C.E., meaning all Devils should have sufficient C.E. Then the matchup becomes possible.
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I don't think it works like that. Like at all.
 
Buraqibear said:
Crazy how Curses and Shikigami are getting their invuln removed when a guy literally several tiers above a curse can't hurt it without a cursed tool
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Does they necessarily need go have absolute invulnerability to any attack, without any limits (referring to the No Limits Fallacy for Characters abilities)? I know grade 4 curses are like billions of times (without exaggerating) weaker to Toji but an attack that's trillions, quadrillions or even more times higher than the cursed spirit durability hasn't been shown to curses resist because the verse never shows or states such gap (as Toji and Maki are the absolute strongest characters without cursed energy) toji town level vs grade 4 curses being the highest gap stated

So without cursed energy, a large city attack may hurt a cursed spirit, and so a multi continental or higher attack may hurt mahoraga (as the gap from large town to multi continental is triillions of times higher)

Of course I doubt Yoru's have multi continental or higher AP with Michigan/Oregon sword, nuclear punch or American flag spear but I still asks that
 
Breadbear83 said:
Does they necessarily need go have absolute invulnerability to any attack, without any limits (referring to the No Limits Fallacy for Characters abilities)? I know grade 4 curses are like billions of times (without exaggerating) weaker to Toji but an attack that's trillions, quadrillions or even more times higher than the cursed spirit durability hasn't been shown to curses resist because the verse never shows or states such gap (as Toji and Maki are the absolute strongest characters without cursed energy) toji town level vs grade 4 curses being the highest gap stated

So without cursed energy, a large city attack may hurt a cursed spirit, and so a multi continental or higher attack may hurt mahoraga (as the gap from large town to multi continental is triillions of times higher)

Of course I doubt Yoru's have multi continental or higher AP with Michigan/Oregon sword, nuclear punch or American flag spear but I still asks that
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It's stated that you can't hurt a Curse at all without CE too, pretty early on in the series and the Toji thing wasn't really a quantifier, just that no matter how strong you are you can't hurt curses without CE
 
Breadbear83 said:
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"Bro, 15 kiloton nuke didn't affect ghost at all. But it doesn't mean that Tsar Bomba wouldn't affect it. Thinking otherwise is NLF"
I swear to god there are more examples of people erroneously calling something NLF than actual NLF(most memorable example is someone saying that Genjutsu wouldn't work on Goku, reason being "claiming that it would work on character with Universal AP, while nobody who affected by it had anything remotely close to Uni AP, is NLF".
Mahoraga is being out of cursed energy. No physical attack without cursed energy can harm him, basta(unless you have invulnerability negation, conceptual manipulation or other good hax, etc..).
And verse equalization doesn't help, since differences in power system are too great.
 
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