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Ya know I wish I could ever have fluency in any foreign language that isn't straight english so I could help you...
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Magic Domain Deletion
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Thanks you too, is highly appreciated...
I think I could try save the verse by looking again the sources and the text from the website and then asking Spinosaurdinosaurfan or Jasonsith to help me verify if the translations are good enough.... but only if people agrees with that.
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I mean, I have personally been sustaining Dragalia Lost for a while now with the only outside interaction the verse has gotten being exclusively in the forum. I have created over 50 pages for the verse, including quite a few notable crossover characters, with plenty more to come.
Just because you're alone doesn't mean working on the verse is out of the question. Plus, like Reaper said, pages can be added overtime at your own leisure.
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Disagree with deleting FRA, that is just something that can be improved over time as @Bernkastelll pointed out.
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I mean, what, are you just gonna slap it into Google Translate again? If so I'm definitely deleting the verse.
If no one helps you with translating the verse properly, don't make pages for it.
There's a striking difference between a verse available in English that one person handles and a verse available in another language handled by someone who can't even read it.
Stop with the comparisons to obscure English shit. Anyone can read and check English sources, it's readily available to anyone who tries. It's not the same with an obscure Chinese verse that was machine translated for the express purpose of making a Godzilla page.
It's not, don't take it so personally. Just make better pages.
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Yeah, I know you from a long time, maybe we have never disscussed something prior to this.
I'm currently working on improve the explanation blog..... and as long as native chinese speakers approve the translation, everything will be fine.
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I mean, if there are arguments to keep the verse; at the very least have an actual human translator who speaks English to Japanese fluently instead of using Google Translate for everything.
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It's Chinese.
If you can get someone who actually knows Chinese to like, play the game rather than just read shit from the website...
If you can get someone who actually knows Chinese to like, play the game rather than just read shit from the website...
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Okay, but my other point still stands. We need a human translator who speaks it fluently as opposed to just Google Translate. I believe this was @Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan native language iirc. Got some info here.
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I don't agree at all, I don't see why there can't just be a fixed translation. It's completely unreasonable to delete it on the grounds of it having godzilla profiles too
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not to mention that there's a blatantly non godzilla profile on the verse to begin with
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The issue ain't that it's a Godzilla crossover, the issue is that being a godzilla crossover makes up literally 66% of it's current substance.
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Is there a rule against this?
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If you're talking about Monster Strike, out of 43 character pages only 10 are Godzilla related, that is 23.25%. I can't really tell the otherwise about MD or 47H unfortunately but that can change over time.
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You fail to understand what any of this is about.
If the translation gets fixed and the verse gets more attention, sure, I'll be fine with letting it stand. But I doubt anyone's gonna go play through a Chinese gacha game's story for 3 pages on this wiki, and I won't accept anything less for scans, information, and translations.
Besides, people are bringing up the idea of introducing notability rules for Godzilla pages, which I would support.
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If there is not someone able to check that the correction of the translation is fine, then I agree it should be deleted. But take note is due to that...
About bringing up the idea of introducing notability rules for Godzilla pages, sure go ahead.
However, depends on how it is done. While Marvel and DC Comics follow the comic criteria only, Godzillaverse is multi-media based, you can't say "lets delete this manga profile cause it doesn't appears on a movie for example".
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This is a non-point. I've seen people run some of the biggest verses on the wiki single handedly. It's all about commitment and effort, which is something I don't see in these verses.
You can keep the pages up if the verses are flashed out and actually worked on. Honestly nobody would have a problem with these pages if it wasn't exclusively crossover characters with no main verse characters.
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It wouldn't be that simple.
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You have to take into account not all the persons have the same free time and disposal and like explained before I was waiting someone to give the approval to the translation before making more profiles.
The verse has a profile for a main character though...
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I know... maybe someone can write a draft?
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If you don't have the free time, energy, or effort to devote to maintaining so many verses, don't make so many verses?
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In fact, I have managed to complete most of the verses I have done and I have take care of them for 8 years, unfortunately this would be a case where a force majeure prevented me from doing it...
Anyway, I have two news... one is that I asked SpinosaurDinosaurFan to check the translation, so everything depends on him now and the second is that I'm leaving the wiki. Unfortunately I suffer from nervous breakdowns and todays one was the worst one in years.
Anyway it is likely the verse is gonna be deleted if Spino doesn't check the blog, so you can continue as I don't think I'll be useful here on my deplorable state. Sorry for any inconvenience....really...
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Please, take care of yourself. Your mental health is much more important than anything on the wiki. I hope things improve!
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Thank you Miss. take care too!
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Before go, can I ask you a little favor?
Promestein could you please ask Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan to translate my blog? I'm sure he can do it because you're a bureaucrat... Instead to shooting the entire verse down. I would really, really appreciate your help!
With that said, I think I'm good to go.
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@Zaratthustra @Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan @Jasonsith @Mariogoods @Udlmaster
Would any of you be willing to help out with this please?
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I just searched the subject in Simplified Chinese and found that the Baidu Baike page still exists. I also found the official website. (Of course mainland China's video game regulations, such as real name system and time restriction, heavily discourages these games to be played by non-mainlanders. I think we cannot run the risk of leaking sensitive information. So sorry Promestein)
I think the verse should be kept since it is not mainly focused on Godzilla and King Kong. Bull Demon King says no.
Update: I found an official Internet novel on the official website, which, although it may not the canon Magic Domain story, can be in this wiki without accessibility issue.
Update 2: I have seen the links provided by Apex_PredatorX. That's a great justification. Actually, Apex_PredatorX has linked to one of the games' in-universe information pages, which allow us to better construct profiles.
Update 3: After Confluctor liked the post, I found that the website has a Character Relationship page. Here is the brief translation of Chronos, The World-Creation God's bio. (创世神科洛诺斯)
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See, rather than just looking at the website I really feel like someone should, you know... play the game? And see the context? And how everything fits together? Are we really just going to be making pages purely off of website information now?
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I have given the link to the game in my post. However, I'm sadly to agree now that Magic Domain is unsafe to keep since you are required to register provide your real-name authentication in mainland China to enter the video game (and the gov's recent objectives encourages to strengthen restrictions on video games) and therefore possessing security risk and make it hard for non-mainlanders to enter. It is a sad news for Godzilla fans and Magic Domain fans, but it cannot be properly accessed to the majority of we VS Battles Wiki users. Sorry for that.
It has notability since it survives from 2006 to today in mainland China., but it is sadly we cannot even get in the game because of the regulation and the game is another "put more money and you'll get stronger in-game". Promestein's proposal is not the perfect, but it may be the only thing we could do if we want to maintain the quality of profiles.
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Yes, agreed. We should probably delete the verse then, and I definitely don't want any of our members to expose themselves to the CCP in a likely dangerous manner just to play a game.
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that is true. I disagree with deleting the verse based on it's incomplete state but i agree on deleting it based on this political detail...
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Sorry to interrupt you. It seems that this CRT needs more comments.
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