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"I'm not arguing against them having similar powers, but you said several of Spider's abilities come from that. Those specifically shouldn't be there."
The thing is that Spider has already shown to use the same magic spells that the Wizard uses, and those spells are derivative from Bartleby. It's unknown if Spider is using Bartleby to cast those spells but we still see him use those abilities regardless. Not to mention that the whole system of magic (as well as the multiverse as a whole) relies on Spider's Shadow Magic to begin with.
"Ye, my original post used Spider's innability to see the future as well as Ultimate Madoka as an argument, your response was the professor, to which all my responses have been debunking to be comparable."
Yeah I admit it was a pretty bad comparison, it was mostly being used for "Well, these guys can see alternate timelines and they're infinitely weaker and less intelligent." But either way Spider's precognition allowed him to see the outcome of his war against Raven, something even Bartleby's Eyes of Time couldn't do.
"did anyone in the thread actually think that the creators knew what "Multiversal+" a term that no way suggests infinite universes, as 2-A confirmation. And not that they were commending him for his cosmology, not tiering?"
That's a fair assumption to make. You're welcome to make a CRT if you want to, but the developers have also stated that the Spiral is "always expanding", and it's like Wokistan said in the thread: "Sure you might have issues with "should this be literal" but there's nothing that doesn't already apply to statements of infinity.". Not to mention Zenkai refers to the Reverie's dream worlds as being infinite in size and they supported that.
About why I'm voting for Spider: I genuinely don't see anything on Madoka's profile which Spider couldn't just replicate or dispel, especially if Spider gets omnipresence after I create the CRT (which I'll do once I finish reviewing Arc 2 of the game and everything in it).
The thing is that Spider has already shown to use the same magic spells that the Wizard uses, and those spells are derivative from Bartleby. It's unknown if Spider is using Bartleby to cast those spells but we still see him use those abilities regardless. Not to mention that the whole system of magic (as well as the multiverse as a whole) relies on Spider's Shadow Magic to begin with.
"Ye, my original post used Spider's innability to see the future as well as Ultimate Madoka as an argument, your response was the professor, to which all my responses have been debunking to be comparable."
Yeah I admit it was a pretty bad comparison, it was mostly being used for "Well, these guys can see alternate timelines and they're infinitely weaker and less intelligent." But either way Spider's precognition allowed him to see the outcome of his war against Raven, something even Bartleby's Eyes of Time couldn't do.
"did anyone in the thread actually think that the creators knew what "Multiversal+" a term that no way suggests infinite universes, as 2-A confirmation. And not that they were commending him for his cosmology, not tiering?"
That's a fair assumption to make. You're welcome to make a CRT if you want to, but the developers have also stated that the Spiral is "always expanding", and it's like Wokistan said in the thread: "Sure you might have issues with "should this be literal" but there's nothing that doesn't already apply to statements of infinity.". Not to mention Zenkai refers to the Reverie's dream worlds as being infinite in size and they supported that.
About why I'm voting for Spider: I genuinely don't see anything on Madoka's profile which Spider couldn't just replicate or dispel, especially if Spider gets omnipresence after I create the CRT (which I'll do once I finish reviewing Arc 2 of the game and everything in it).